Chick-Fil-A = Antigay (No Surprise there - just confirmation)

[phildinftlaudy]

I think I have been to Chick-fil-A one time years ago.... but obviously won't be going there again.....  Not that any of the information below was a surprise.... just confirmation.....

It's Official: Chick-fil-A COO Dan Cathy Comes Out as Antigay

"We are very much supportive of the family — the biblical definition of the family unit. We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that. ... We know that it might not be popular with everyone, but thank the Lord, we live in a country where we can share our values and operate on biblical principles."

The company has reported millions of dollars in donations to antigay groups including the Family Research Council and the Marriage and Family Foundation. Because of Chick-fil-A's ties to antigay organizations and causes, many LGBT people and allies are boycotting the restaurants, and plans to open a restaurant on the Northeastern University campus were quashed.

(FYI: According to Equality Matters' analysis of the restaurant's donations, its contributions of nearly $2 million is more than the group has given in any other year "for which public records are available." These contributions compound the estimated $5 million in donations Chick-Fil-A made to anti-gay groups between 2003 and 2010.)

http://www.businessinsider.com/most-anti-gay-companies-in-america-2012-7#ixzz20zBWlM3e

http://www.advocate.com/business/2012/07/17/chick-fil-coo-dan-cathy-officially-comes-out-antigay

[weasel]

   I do not eat there .
    Here in Missouri they have an upper crust crowd 
    So they think ............. LOL's 
   It is a glorified  KFC .
   
                                                    Carl,
                                           Happy to eat at home away bigots 

[J.R.E.]

Speaking of Chic fil- a...  Just heard this on the news: they made a goof in print, it's Henson , not Henderson

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2177807/The-Muppets-Jim-Henderson-company-cut-ties-Chick-Fil-A-restaurant-presidents-anti-gay-marriage-comments.html

The Muppets cut ties with Chick-Fil-A restaurant after president's anti-gay marriage comments

    The Jim Henderson Company, which is behind the Muppets, have said they will never work with Chick-Fil-A again
    Fast food chain Chick-fil-A issued a statement in response to the widespread criticism of the company president Dan Cathy's anti-gay comments
    Cathy had previously said that the company is only supportive of heterosexual family values
    The company donated more than $3m between 2003 and 2009 to Christian organisations with anti-gay agendas

By Alex Ward and Daily Mail Reporter

PUBLISHED: 12:24 EST, 23 July 2012 | UPDATED: 14:23 EST, 23 July 2012

   

The entertainment company behind The Muppets has cut ties with restaurant Chick-Fil-A after the fast-food chain’s CEO revealed his anti-gay marriage stance.

The Jim Henderson Company had partnered with the eatery to provide toys in their kid’s meals from mid July until August 18.

However, following Chick-Fil-A’s president Dan Cathy's comments last week that his company supported families headed by heterosexual couples only, The Jim Henderson Company said they would never work with the fast food giant again.
Revealed: Chick-fil-A COO Dan Cathy said he and his company support traditional marriage based on biblical values
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Muppets: The Jim Henderson Company, which is behind the beloved TV show The Muppets, have cut ties with Chick-Fil-A after the chain's president Dan Cathy, left, revealed his anti-gay marriage stance

The Jim Henderson Company, which is also behind popular shows such as Fraggle Rock and Labyrinth, posted that their were severing their ties with the restaurant on their Facebook page on Friday.
 


The company also said they would be dedicating their payment from Chick-Fil-A to the charity Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Discrimination.

Their full post, reported on the Huffington Post, read: 'The Jim Henson Company has celebrated and embraced diversity and inclusiveness for over fifty years and we have notified Chick-Fil-A that we do not wish to partner with them on any future endeavors.

'Lisa Henson, our CEO is personally a strong supporter of gay marriage and has directed us to donate the payment we received from Chick-Fil-A to GLAAD.'
'Going forward': The Atlanta-based fast food chain released a statement on Facebook saying they will 'leave the policy debate over same-sex marriage to the government and political arena'

'Going forward': The Atlanta-based fast food chain released a statement on Facebook saying they will 'leave the policy debate over same-sex marriage to the government and political arena'

This is the latest in a huge backlash to comments made by the multimillion dollar empire’s president Dan Cathy when he said his company is ‘very much supportive of the family,’ but only when it involves heterosexual couples in an interview with the conservative newspaper Baptist Press.

As well as customer backlash, Boston Mayor Thomas Menino has vowed to block Chick-fil-A from opening a restaurant in the city.

To appease disgruntled consumers Chick-fil-A issued a statement via the company's Facebook page on Thursday saying their restaurants ‘treat every person with honor, dignity and respect – regardless of their belief, race, creed, sexual orientation or gender’.

The statement continued: ‘Going forward, our intent is to leave the policy debate over same-sex marriage to the government and political arena.’

More than 13,000 comments were posted on the company's Facebook page in response to the statement.

According to the Los Angeles Times, Mr Cathy he previously said: ‘We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives.’
Contradictory: Mr Cathy's backing of 'traditional' families as husband and wife is a far cry from the ensuing statement from Chick-fil-A

Contradictory: Mr Cathy's backing of 'traditional' families as husband and wife is a far cry from the ensuing statement from Chick-fil-A

The Atlanta-based business currently has 1,608 locations and boasts sales of more than $4billion.

According to the Los Angeles Times, Chick-fil-A workers are trained ‘to focus on values rooted in the Bible,’ and the eateries nationwide are closed on Sundays.

Mr Cathy said: ‘We don’t claim to be a Christian business.

‘Companies are not lost or saved, but certainly individuals are but as an organisation we can operate on biblical principles.’

In response to Chick-fil-A's Facebook statement there was a range of criticism and support for the company's position.

One user posted: 'I believe that anytime a person or a business uses their time and money to ensure that someone does not have an ability or a right they are not acting with grace, only with selfish intent and fear.'

Another posted: 'You can stop eating there if you want but I don't think he should have to change his values and beliefs.

'You want you rights to be "gay" but you want to take our right to believe what we want from us?'

On Twitter user posted: ‘I shall not ever eat at chick-a-fil-a again.’

The company, founded in 1946 by Cathy’s father, S. Truett Cathy, has also come under fire for donating more than $3million between 2003 and 2009 to Christian organisations with a well-known anti-gay agenda, among them the Marriage & Family Foundation and the Family Research Council.

According to a report from LGBT advocacy group Equality Matters, in 2010 alone Chick-fil-A gave nearly $2million to such causes.



Read more:

    The Huffington Post: 'Muppets' Sever Ties With Chick-Fil-A Over Anti-Gay Stance


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2177807/The-Muppets-Jim-Henderson-company-cut-ties-Chick-Fil-A-restaurant-presidents-anti-gay-marriage-comments.html#ixzz21XiTW01b

[denb45]

I've never eaten that verboten food, and never will, we have 2 of them here in ABQ-Metro are we used, now there is only on the UNM-Campus.and i doubt is does a lot of bissness especially now 

[red_Dragon888]

O boy, when thongs go wrongs, it really hurts the private parts....  It remind me of the Denny's Racial discrimination lawsuits.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denny%27s#Racial_discrimination_lawsuits

[buginme2]

Not only have the Muppets abandonded Chik-fil a. 

The mayor of Boston has told the company that Chil-fil a is not welcome to open any stores in the city of Boston until they change their ways!!!

Three cheers for Boston!!

[red_Dragon888]

Not only have the Muppets abandonded Chik-fil a. 

The mayor of Boston has told the company that Chil-fil a is not welcome to open any stores in the city of Boston until they change their ways!!!

Three cheers for Boston!!

CHEERS

[Mrmojorisin]

I find it humorous that many people believe in free speech untill they hear something they do not like.... Everyone is entitled to their opinion.. I have not ate at chik-fil-a in over 20 years simply because their food sucks.

[Miss Philicia]

I find it humorous that many people believe in free speech untill they hear something they do not like.... Everyone is entitled to their opinion.. I have not ate at chik-fil-a in over 20 years simply because their food sucks.

I find it humorous that you object to people exercising their right to free speech by boycotting a business. But hey, go ahead and defend homophobia... it's not like you're gay in the first place.

[Solo_LTSurvivor]

it's not like you're gay in the first place.

And there's the rub. 

As much as Mojo would like to believe that he'd never react in such a way he was describing, I'm quite certain that is not the case as it would be going against human nature and how we're programmed to react when we encounter something that gets our dander up.

I find it humorous that many people believe in free speech untill they hear something they do not like.... Everyone is entitled to their opinion.. I have not ate at chik-fil-a in over 20 years simply because their food sucks.

[Mrmojorisin]

I find it humorous that you object to people exercising their right to free speech by boycotting a business. But hey, go ahead and defend homophobia... it's not like you're gay in the first place.

 I have no objection to the boycott. Freedom of speech does not include freedom from consequences of what is expresssed. Sure you can say what you wish but be prepared for the aftermath.  I am not defending homophobia. My being gay or not has no relevance on the matter....

[Mrmojorisin]

And there's the rub. 

As much as Mojo would like to believe that he'd never react in such a way he was describing, I'm quite certain that is not the case as it would be going against human nature and how we're programmed to react when we encounter something that gets our dander up.

 One lesson that I learned long ago, was to not allow what someone else has to say affect me negatively. Life is way to short for that kind of stress.

[denb45]

Cream-puff anyone 

http://www.joyofbaking.com/CreamPuffs.html

Hugs

DEN

[Matty the Damned]

I have no objection to the boycott. Freedom of speech does not include freedom from consequences of what is expresssed. Sure you can say what you wish but be prepared for the aftermath.  I am not defending homophobia. My being gay or not has no relevance on the matter....

So we know what you're not.

You're probably not a racist, either.

Most of us here agree that Chik-Fil-A have a right to be douchebags. That's really not the issue. The issue is do you agree with their particular brand of anti-ghey hatred?

Enquiring minds want to know.

MtD

[red_Dragon888]

Cream-puff anyone 

http://www.joyofbaking.com/CreamPuffs.html

Hugs

DEN

yummy

[bmancanfly]

... We know that it might not be popular with everyone, but thank the Lord, we live in a country where we can share our values and operate on biblical principles."

http://www.businessinsider.com/most-anti-gay-companies-in-america-2012-7#ixzz20zBWlM3e

http://www.advocate.com/business/2012/07/17/chick-fil-coo-dan-cathy-officially-comes-out-antigay

Someone should ask him if all of Chik-Fil-A's  kitchens are kosher - biblical principles and all.

[GSOgymrat]

For the record, I think their Christian chicken is delicious and the service of their shiny, happy employees absolutely Stepford-- grandma comes by with free ice cream and if you are not served immediately the manager begs you to take a coupon for a free sandwich. Law enforcement eats free, so you pretty much have police protection at all times. Unfortunately, as any fan of sci-fi knows, there is always unspeakable evil lurking just behind the too perfect community: human sacrifice, pod people, homicidal robots. So I am sadden but not surprised the owners of Chik-Fil-A don monk robes, retreat to their underground sanctum and, with Pat Boone records playing softly in the background, pray to The Unnamed God for a pox on gay people.

Oh, how I will miss the grilled spicy chicken wrap.

[Matty the Damned]

Someone should ask him if all of Chik-Fil-A's  kitchens are kosher - biblical principles and all.

Why? Kashrut only applies to jews. Last time I checked christians can eat what they like. 1 Timothy chapter 4 if memory serves.

MtD

[thunter34]

Why? Kashrut only applies to jews. Last time I checked christians can eat what they like. 1 Timothy chapter 4 if memory serves.

MtD

Indeed.  The same part that tells us these are the ends days - and you'll know them when people start shacking up in stead of marrying and listening to the rantings of lesbians and vegetarians.

Unless I'm reading it wrong.


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Timothy+4&version=KJV

[Miss Philicia]

I would be upset if I was forced to boycott Five Guys.

[WillyWump]

Alright, Alright! I can't deal with the Guilt any longer! I ate at Chik-Fil-a today. I blew a hose on the Benz and had to stop at a Goodyear, and the only thing in walking distance was aChik-Fil-A.

Had a #5 Meal with sweet Tea. They have amazing Buffalo dipping sauce.

I am sorry. If it's any consolation I did give the manager a stank look.

You can commence with the Tomato throwing now.

-Will

[Buckmark]

Alright, Alright! I can't deal with the Guilt any longer! I ate at Chik-Fil-a today.

Heathen.

I blew a hose on the Benz and had to stop at a Goodyear, and the only thing in walking distance was a Chik-Fil-A.

A problem with your Mercedes Benz?  Clutch the pearls!

I am sorry. I did however give the manager a stank look.

Did you, by chance, blow the manager in the bathroom?  Or did he blow you?  Those who protest the most are usually the ones hiding something.

You can commence with the Tomato throwing now.

*splat*

Still, I loved Chick-Fil-A's chicken biscuits and still dream about them occasionally.

[GSOgymrat]

Alright, Alright! I can't deal with the Guilt any longer! I ate at Chik-Fil-a today.

Somebody needs to be spanked most vigorously.

[Mrmojorisin]

So we know what you're not.

You're probably not a racist, either.

Most of us here agree that Chik-Fil-A have a right to be douchebags. That's really not the issue. The issue is do you agree with their particular brand of anti-ghey hatred?

Enquiring minds want to know.

MtD

I do not agree with any brand of hatred. I am only aware of the CEO of the place standing against same sex marriage. That does not always equate to hate. But, as I said, I am unaware of any other actions by this company. I do not eat there, therefore do not follow its politics....Same goes for McDonalds, Burger King and several other establishments that I do not use.
 One has a right to disagree or even hate.... As long as you do not infringe on anothers rights. I don't worry about the haters, cause most of them are looking for something or someone to hate..In this country first it was women, then black people, now it is people who are gay.  Let them hate, thats what they do.. the best counterfeite to hate is to live you life as if they do not exist...that pisses them off.

[GSOgymrat]

One has a right to disagree or even hate.... As long as you do not infringe on anothers rights.

I hate you.

[Miss Philicia]

It's seriously sad how these Southern queers live so hard for fried chicken.

[Buckmark]

Let them hate, thats what they do.. the best counterfeite to hate is to live you life as if they do not exist...that pisses them off.

So, your advice is to simply keep quite and ignore Chick-Fil-A.  Brilliant!

Fuck that shit.  There are times where you need to speak up and / or take action.  It's all too easy to just turn a blind eye.  That is how discrimination is perpetuated.

[Matty the Damned]

I do not agree with any brand of hatred. I am only aware of the CEO of the place standing against same sex marriage. That does not always equate to hate. But, as I said, I am unaware of any other actions by this company. I do not eat there, therefore do not follow its politics....Same goes for McDonalds, Burger King and several other establishments that I do not use.
 One has a right to disagree or even hate.... As long as you do not infringe on anothers rights. I don't worry about the haters, cause most of them are looking for something or someone to hate..In this country first it was women, then black people, now it is people who are gay.  Let them hate, thats what they do.. the best counterfeite to hate is to live you life as if they do not exist...that pisses them off.

Ah.

You know, we're really very different people.

I'm rather partial to hatred. Those who would call me faggot and subhuman?

I hate them.

Not only do I hate them but I look forward to the day when I and my kind will rise up righteous and wipe the earth of such filth. 

Hatred, properly based and appropriately focussed, purifies and makes the oppressed free.

It cleanses and liberates.

We don't ask for our rights, we demand them. When our demands are denied, we simply take our rights.

We don't think twice.

And once we've cleansed the world of the christian, the bigot, the conservative and the enabler: then we'll turn our attentions to you.

Because whilst the road to Hell may be paved with good intentions, the road to freedom is paved with the skulls of people like you.

MtD

[Mrmojorisin]

So, your advice is to simply keep quite and ignore Chick-Fil-A.  Brilliant!

Fuck that shit.  There are times where you need to speak up and / or take action.  It's all too easy to just turn a blind eye.  That is how discrimination is perpetuated.

 I did not say that, boycott them if it makes you feel better.
 They oppose same-sex marriage, so what!!!!!!! Now you have a real issue if they refuse to hire someone because they are gay or in a in a relationship with someone of the same sex.

[Mrmojorisin]

I hate you.

But I LOVE you...can I get a big sloppy kiss?

[denb45]

Somebody needs to be spanked most vigorously.

And ravaged quite often 

[Miss Philicia]

So, your advice is to simply keep quite and ignore Chick-Fil-A.  Brilliant!

Better yet -- you should go back in the closet and stfu.

[Buckmark]

I did not say that, boycott them if it makes you feel better.
 They oppose same-sex marriage, so what!!!!!!! Now you have a real issue if they refuse to hire someone because they are gay or in a in a relationship with someone of the same sex.

So what?  Clearly you've never been denied the right to marry the one you love.

[jkinatl2]

It's seriously sad how these Southern queers live so hard for fried chicken.

Two quick things

McD's has a passable (nowhere near perfect, but hovering nearby) version of the Chick Fil A sandwich. Once a month and a half maybe I eat one.

Also, there is quite a bit of difference between a CEO coming out in a personal stance against equality and making certain his company donates millions of dollars to prevent aforementioned equality.

One is an act of free expression.

The other an attack on my rights as a person.

I forget who said (and I am too lazy to google it) but one man's freedom to swing his fist ends where my nose begins.

I definitely interpret the actions of that odious man as a swinging fist that directly impacts my nose.

Had I millions of dollars, then I could play tit-for-tat. Having misplaced those millions, I will boycott and ask others to do the same, making as much noise as I feel I should, when indeed other pressing matters are not in the forefront.

I do not find that grassroots-style activism inappropriate at all.

By the way, if you can make it out, this is the sign on the window of Chick Fil-A regarding the muppets issue:

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/699985/thumbs/o-CHICK-FIL-A-SIGN-570.jpg?4

It says in part (it's rather hard to read)

"Chick-fil-A is initiating a voluntary withdrawal for our Jim Henson Creature Shop Puppet Kid's Meal Premiums due to a product issue (even though all puppets passed safety testing requirements).
In lieu of the kid's meal premium we will offer a Kid's Icedream."

So they'd rather fatten kids up than admit to philosophical differences. You'd think if they were indeed PROUD of their stance, they would say so right there. The fact that they continue to skulk behind the scenes and do evil while hiding that fact from their public tells me that they know very well how unpopular their stance really appears.

[denb45]

Tiramisu anyone 

http://allrecipes.com/recipe/tiramisu-ii/

[bocker3]

They oppose same-sex marriage, so what!!!!!!!

Says the man who doesn't want to marry someone of the same sex.  The "so what" is this -- they give lots of money to groups that spend this money working hard to stop states from allowing same sex marriage. 

So what you say??  If I die tomorrow, my partner of 22 years could lose everything we've built together because the state of Virginia doesn't recognize us as family.  Despite the money we've spent to create every conceivable legal document that expresses our view -- a judge in VA could simply invalidate them and give everything to a "real family member".  And there are PLENTY of judges in this state who would be willing to do just that.

So what you say??  How would you feel if your ability to "marry" the person you wanted was put up to a vote where deep pocketed people and corps (like Chik-Fil-A) are able to persuade folks to vote in the manner THEY think they should.

I will be marrying my partner on Sept 1st, in Massachusetts -- it won't, legally, mean shit where we live, but it will make a statement -- to ourselves and to the rest of the world (or our little piece of it). 
So -- FUCK your "So what??"  Free speech is one thing, working hard and spending money to limit the rights of others is never a "so what" -- except to those who aren't impacted by it.

Mike

[Mrmojorisin]

So what?  Clearly you've never been denied the right to marry the one you love.

 No I have not, and neither should anyone else....I was speaking of someones opinion when I said that, not about marriage.

[thunter34]

Has this bulletin been validated by Snopes or anything?  I just can hardly fathom that they would be stupid enough to try to pass off a sign like that when everyone knows what the real issue is.

And oh yeah...Mojo:  Sally Ride's partner of 27 years, for example, won't get shit in benefits now that Sally is deceased because their relationship isn't recognized. 

But so what?

[bocker3]

No I have not, and neither should anyone else....I was speaking of someones opinion when I said that, not about marriage.

His "opinion" is not the real problem -- it's his ability to spend millions spreading his opinion.
The fact that you are so cavalier about other people's rights is, simply, appalling.  If you can't get what you said was wrong and just find a way to excuse or minimize it, there is no reason to have a dialogue with you.

[Solo_LTSurvivor]

So -- FUCK your "So what??"  Free speech is one thing, working hard and spending money to limit the rights of others is never a "so what" -- except to those who aren't impacted by it.

Mike

I was about to say careful or you'll find yourself subjected to the same affirmative defensive that I was but I see the tune changed before I could even type this 

One lesson that I learned long ago, was to not allow what someone else has to say affect me negatively. Life is way to short for that kind of stress.

[leatherman]

But, as I said, I am unaware of any other actions by this company. I do not eat there, therefore do not follow its politics.

perhaps you should keep abreast (see what I did there? LOL) of the news articles about CFA before posting. The company itself donates to designated hate groups. This isn't about the CEO but about the company. The CEO is just the asshate mouth piece of the company's policy of hate.

[WillyWump]

.
By the way, if you can make it out, this is the sign on the window of Chick Fil-A regarding the muppets issue:

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/699985/thumbs/o-CHICK-FIL-A-SIGN-570.jpg?4

It says in part (it's rather hard to read)

"Chick-fil-A is initiating a voluntary withdrawal for our Jim Henson Creature Shop Puppet Kid's Meal Premiums due to a product issue (even though all puppets passed safety testing requirements).
In lieu of the kid's meal premium we will offer a Kid's Icedream."

It says tthat they are withdrawing the puppets because kids fingers are getting stuck in the holes. ROFLMAOwut!? It's a puppet. Couldn't they think of a better bogus reason? So not only are they Homophobes, but they are uncreative Homophobes.

[Miss Philicia]

HOW IS YOUR LIPID PANEL TODAY GUILHERMINA?

[WillyWump]

HOW IS YOUR LIPID PANEL TODAY GUILHERMINA?

Killjoy.

[denb45]

Killjoy.

Tiramisu II

"Mascarpone custard layered with whipped cream and rum and coffee soaked ladyfingers."

YUM  now that will fuck up a lipid panel 

[Solo_LTSurvivor]

Killjoy.

CLICK ON THE LOVELY PICTAR

[denb45]

Eeeeeek you mean queen you, I love you 

[Miss Philicia]

People eat fried chicken on biscuits for breakfast at Chick-Fil-A? Now that's just wrong.

[denb45]

People eat fried chicken on biscuits for breakfast at Chick-Fil-A? Now that's just wrong.

Sweetie it's more than wrong, it blatant   blasphemy


Hugs

DEN

[GSOgymrat]

But I LOVE you...can I get a big sloppy kiss?

I think that comment justifies a lethal response under the "straight panic" defense.

[Miss Philicia]

Sweetie it's more than wrong, it blatant   blasphemy


Hugs

DEN

At least they left the pickle off.

[WillyWump]

People eat fried chicken on biscuits for breakfast at Chick-Fil-A? Now that's just wrong.

Sweetie it's more than wrong, it blatant   blasphemy

Please dont be afraid of things you do not understand.

The only thing better than a nice chicken biscuit is a plate of Chicken and waffles.

[Solo_LTSurvivor]

People eat fried chicken on biscuits for breakfast at Chick-Fil-A? Now that's just wrong.

It's the poor man's equivalent of chicken and waffles.

[Miss Philicia]

I'll take my 40-garlic roasted chicken over fried chicken any day of the week.

[denb45]

It's the poor man's equivalent of chicken and waffles.

It a FOOL'S equivalent of chicken and waffles 

and YES WillyWump, I've eaten Rosco's chicken and waffles before, I'm Black remember 

[GSOgymrat]

My favorite prepared chicken is Costco rotisserie chicken. It's a big bird, lightly season, juicy and only cost $4.98. One breast and a microwave sweet potato is my typical dinner when I'm at work. I can usually get 4 meals from one bird.

[denb45]

I prefer to cook my own rotisserie chicken, usually I do this every Sunday

YUM 


Hugs

DEN

[WillyWump]

I'm Black remember 

Oh yes. You remind us of that every few weeks 

[denb45]

Oh yes. You remind us of that every few weeks 

It so hard being a token and married to a white boy...giggles   

Love Ya Will, so I'll let you get away with that for now 

looking forward to meeting you in a few days 

With love

DEN 

[WillyWump]

Love Ya Will, so I'll let you get away with that for now 

ah man. I was hoping you would spank the crap out of me in DC. 

[denb45]

ah man. I was hoping you would spank the crap out of me in DC. 

I just might, if you get me drunk enough & pissed off.........giggles 


Hugs

DEN

[Miss Philicia]

Oh yes. You remind us of that every few weeks 

Along with his age and rate of diarrhea.

[denb45]

Along with his age and rate of diarrhea.

stfu gimpy 

[WillyWump]

stfu gimpy 

[Hellraiser]

I would be upset if I was forced to boycott Five Guys.

With a name like Five Guys what is there to boycott?

[Ac75088]

I went to Chic-Fil-A earlier and didn't even think of the issue at hand..Boycott them or not, this is ALWAYS gonna be a controversial issue. I'm just fat and hungry :p

[jkinatl2]

I went to Chic-Fil-A earlier and didn't even think of the issue at hand..Boycott them or not, this is ALWAYS gonna be a controversial issue. I'm just fat and hungry :p

Exactly! Enjoy that medication and access to healthcare!


Also, dumbshit. The dead don't notice the piss you are pissing on them. The living might be annoyed.

[WillyWump]

McD's has a passable (nowhere near perfect, but hovering nearby) version of the Chick Fil A sandwich.

As a Public Service gesture for my fellow members, I went to McDonalds today to verify this statement.

I can report that McDonalds Southern Style Chick Sandwhich is equal to or better than the Chick-Fil-A. So now there is no need for us Chicken bisucit fans to go without.

*sorry for the blur, I was in a hurry to eat it*



You are welcome.

-W

[jkinatl2]

Thanks to WillyWump for once again going all Aztec, offering his beating heart as a sacrifice to the fat and cholesterol Gods so that we may thrive.

You will be remembered with fond smiles.

McD's does NOT offer nuggets in the same style. But seriously, if chicken nuggets are worth more to you than marriage equality, then I am truly out of arguments.

It's not like we're trying to boycott Gun Oil or anything.

[denb45]

And he still has NOT shown us his lipid panel, if he ever even took one 

[Jeff G]

I had a very testy moment with my aunt last week after I drove her home from the dentist about chick Fil A .

She asked me to stop there for a sandwich and when I refused she got really pissed off and told me I could eat elsewhere but she was going to get a meal from there . I'm pretty mild mannered with me older relatives so when I snapped back that I didn't care what she wanted because my car wasn't ever going to grace the parking lot of that dump for any reason it got her attention and she actually apologised and told me if it was that important to me we could go eat anywhere I wanted her treat .

I'm completely and utterly out of patience with people that cant seem to grasp the concept of how it feels to be denied due respect and full civil rights .     

[buginme2]

If anyone would like to read the letter the Boston mayor wrote

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/25/thomas-menino-boston-mayor-chick-fil-a-letter_n_1703770.html

[AlanBama]

Exactly! Enjoy that medication and access to healthcare!

Also, dumbshit. The dead don't notice the piss you are pissing on them. The living might be annoyed.

Amen, my friend!

I'm completely and utterly out of patience with people that cant seem to grasp the concept of how it feels to be denied due respect and full civil rights .     

Me too, Jeff.   I agree with Cleve Jones on this.....pissed at CNN too, for their coverage (or lack of).   It's not about the CFO being a bigoted homophobe...it's about C.F.A. making big contributions to organizations that want to HURT us and write discrimination into the Constitution.   I'm going to have to unfriend or block some folks on Facebook over this issue.   This (otherwise) intelligent lady I went to school with keeps posting how she plans to SUPPORT C.F.A., and how "I want to support any company that puts Jesus Christ first".   There is no discussion with people like this, because their minds are frozen in time..... it's that Republican brain atrophy that makes them totally unreasonable, and therefore, not worth a second of my time.

Alan

[Miss Philicia]

If anyone would like to read the letter the Boston mayor wrote

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/25/thomas-menino-boston-mayor-chick-fil-a-letter_n_1703770.html

So what happens when the mayor of Dallas does the opposite and starts to kick out all businesses with a pro-gay policy? Then add a few more Southern cities to the list and you'll see that a mayor of any city should not mandate what a business owner says in the public domain (free speech issue).

[thunter34]

In a way, this story sort of reminds me of the recent controversy here in GA where the KKK wanted to adopt a part of a highway in N GA (like pick up litter and stuff).  They were voted down due to their recognition as a "hate group" and for being "inconsistant with GA values".  Living in the mountains, I can't say that speaks for everyone in GA...not that it would in any state, actually. 

[Mrmojorisin]

I think that comment justifies a lethal response under the "straight panic" defense.

LOL....but ya gotta wear assless riot gear.

[red_Dragon888]

I had a very testy moment with my aunt last week after I drove her home from the dentist about chick Fil A .

She asked me to stop there for a sandwich and when I refused she got really pissed off and told me I could eat elsewhere but she was going to get a meal from there . I'm pretty mild mannered with me older relatives so when I snapped back that I didn't care what she wanted because my car wasn't ever going to grace the parking lot of that dump for any reason it got her attention and she actually apologised and told me if it was that important to me we could go eat anywhere I wanted her treat .

I'm completely and utterly out of patience with people that cant seem to grasp the concept of how it feels to be denied due respect and full civil rights .     

Right On...  Power to the People...

[red_Dragon888]

Chick-fil-A Sandwiches Become a Political Symbol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjIgd38tKyQ&feature=relmfu

it would certainly stop me from eating there!!!

[red_Dragon888]

Chick-fil-A President's Anti-Gay Comments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=oPH1GOaoeo8&NR=1

From his lips to God's ears his foot in his mouth...

[leatherman]

Chick-fil-A Sandwiches Become a Political Symbol

I guess it shouldn't surprise me that so many misunderstand the issue about CFA. It's not what the CEO said it's what the company does. The company actively contributes to organizations that actively campaign FOR discrimination against gays.

than again, look at all the gays that tithe to churches that preach against homosexuality. If we can't get our "own" people to understand, it's no wonder the wider world doesn't get it either. 

[Miss Philicia]

O HAI GUYS! 

[tednlou2]

I had two family members post on FB today that they "like" Chick-fil-A.  These are the same two I've posted about before, for saying they are against marriage equality.  It has caused a huge fracture in our relationship.  When I say family, they are my partner's brother and his wife.  We remained cordial at family events.  We kept hoping they would come around.

Both rarely post on FB.  I'm no longer friends on FB with the wife, but didn't delete his brother.  So, they both went out of their way to make a post in support of Chick.  I would have thought with our already fractured relationship, they would have left this alone.  To us, it feels like they are twisting the knife.  Man, I just hate this issue divides us.  It isn't like differences on tax policy or even war policy.  This is an assault on who were are.  Given that they are taking public stands and not just private views, I just can't imagine even being cordial at this point.  The insensitivity is what really burns me.  They both could have let this go and not made public comments--mocking those of us who see this as an attack, with their friends making comments about the "gay agenda."  It feels like the final straw to us.

[red_Dragon888]

 Chick-Fil-A a cultural war begins.  August 1st I'm eating at Subways, Mc Donald's or anyplace else.



Chick-fil-A backers launch a cholesterol counter-strike
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-chick-fil-a-appreciation-day-20120726,0,2781011.story

[red_Dragon888]

Chick-fil-A Alienating Customers With Stance on Same-Sex Marriage

(the mountain has come to Mohammed...   )

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-crimson-white/chuck-fil-a-gay-marriage-_b_1717641.html

excerpt...

"But with a great deal of attention being placed on social issues this election year, many companies are taking a clear stance on diversity and acceptance in their corporate atmosphere. Google recently launched a new worldwide campaign to legalize and recognize same-sex marriage called "Legalize Love."

Google joins JC Penney, Kraft Foods and Starbucks for having all recently faced criticism and threats of boycotts from far-right groups for their support of equality and acceptance inside and outside the workplace."

added...

"But with numerous polls showing Americans becoming significantly more supportive of marriage equality, these boycott attempts and calls for a recant of support gain almost no traction and look increasingly foolish.

While I don't dispute that corporations, like individuals, certainly have a right to freely support any ideology or issue, it seems to be a bad business model to willingly alienate a large faction of consumers.

Chick-fil-A's job should be to make delicious chicken sandwiches, not serve as a surrogate for one of the nation's most divisive issues. In a day where it seems everything is politicized, I'd like to think that my Spicy Deluxe combo and lemonade could offer a shred of normalcy -- not a channel for intolerance.

Cathy's comments haven't stopped me from ever eating at Chick-fil-A again, but I have lost confidence and respect in an organization that claims to be based on following and emulating a loving and accepting God.

Chick-fil-A executives should display the same amount of respect for customers that they expect out of their employees, easily creating raving fans of all backgrounds."

[leatherman]

NSFW due to language; but very funny
http://youtu.be/gJS2VSRMorM

[Jeff G]

Some one sent me a pic of a KFC billboard the other day that read chicken served without hate .

[buginme2]

Chick-Fil-A a cultural war begins.  August 1st I'm eating at Subways, Mc Donald's or anyplace else.



Chick-fil-A backers launch a cholesterol counter-strike
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-chick-fil-a-appreciation-day-20120726,0,2781011.story

Sort of a mute point as there are no Chik-fil A's in the UK

[leatherman]

KFC billboard

sadly a photoshopesque hoax
http://www.snopes.com/photos/signs/chickfila.asp
the sentiment is still true though

[red_Dragon888]

Some one sent me a pic of a KFC billboard the other day that read chicken served without hate .

http://www.snopes.com/photos/signs/chickfila.asp

[tednlou2]

The lines at Chick are very long here today.  Rush, Fox, and churches have a lot of sway to get people to stand in line so long.  I doubt you could get them to stand in line that long to save puppies from the gas chamber. 

[leatherman]

The lines at Chick are very long here today.

lines are long here too in Tea Party/Biblebelt-land SC

[GSOgymrat]

There is a Chick-Fil-A in the same shopping center as my gym. It appeared busy today but they are always busy and frequently have a line of cars stretching into the adjacent parking lot. BTW, for lunch today we went to a local Greek restaurant and had chicken souvlaki and salad, which was about the same price as Chick-Fil-A but healthier and tastier.

[J.R.E.]

Big lines today , here in the Tampa bay area:

http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/bn9/2012/8/1/chick_fil_a_supporte.html


"It’s a barbaric way of thinking. This is 2012, this is not the 50s or the 60s. We've had so many problems, like bullying in high schools,” she said.

Opponents of the company’s stance are planning “Kiss Mor Chiks” for Friday, when they are encouraging people of the same sex to show up at Chick-fil-A restaurants around the country and kiss each other.

[Miss Philicia]

Miss P had General Tso's chicken (paging Wumpy) and not only that, I had it after picking up HIV meds and in the Gayborhood where even the city street signs have rainblow logos. For extra credit there is actually a Planned Parenthood across the street.

[denb45]

 We had a few protesters for Marriage Equality, at one of our Chick-Fil-A's but mostly they just went for the FREE FOOD & DRINK they were giving out today, there  some were arrested  for trespassing, & interfering w/ business   

[Lugzsoo]

KFC loves gays

<iframe src="http://www.funnyordie.com/embed/e86050c415"

Funny you can still eat chicken

[red_Dragon888]

KFC loves gays

<iframe src="http://www.funnyordie.com/embed/e86050c415"

Funny you can still eat chicken

lol   I'm getting tired of the media crap.   let them eat cake....

[Miss Philicia]

Randy Rainbow Works at Chick-fil-A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiZLFjbqDxQ

[Jeff G]

I'm under siege here today . While I was at AMG some of my family was very busy on FB posting away in support of C. F . I figured freedom of speech deserved freedom to reply so I posted some things of my own . One thing I posted was in response to my slightly effeminate 27 year old cousins support for C.F was to feign surprise and say we always thought you were gay . The boy is 27 and NEVER has been on a date . My mom called and is furious with me but I kept my cool and told her its not like I'm hurling insults at the guy , after all haven't we been giggling behind his back about it for years . It sums up allot about ones family when they think suggesting someone might be gay is a slur .   

I am not deliberately trying to start shit within my own family but some things are important to me and I will not remain silent . I'm not upset about this because its enough to know I'm right and I don't need an affirmation from any of my family to make it so . 

[RapidRod]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUmoTOujJ7Q&feature=youtu.be

[leatherman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUmoTOujJ7Q&feature=youtu.be

it's such a sad day when even gays don't realize that it's not about the words but about the money, the discrimination, and the religious intolerance.

[Jeff G]

it's such a sad day when even gays don't realize that it's not about the words but about the money, the discrimination, and the religious intolerance.

I agree ... also its amusing to me to how people can go on FB and post things that are divisive and then be angered when people reply with an opposing view . They think we are going to just lay down and keep quite .   

[Ann]

Randy Rainbow Works at Chick-fil-A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiZLFjbqDxQ

Chicken Pride Day!

heheheahahahahahaehehehehehe~gasp~hehehehheheheheehahahhahahahaha~splutter~choke~sigh~heh.

[GSOgymrat]

it's such a sad day when even gays don't realize that it's not about the words but about the money, the discrimination, and the religious intolerance.

I think it is about the words. Even if Chick-Fil-A had no cases of discrimination and no donations to anti-gay organizations people who support gay marriage wouldn't like hearing Mr. Cathy's personal opinions opposing gay marriage and would avoid eating at his restaurants. If your neighbor, who has no political or financial clout, put a sign in his yard saying "I hate gays" I doubt your initial reaction would be "Oh, I really respect your right to free speech and look forward to hearing more of your insights." You would perceive it as an attack and react defensively, and that is not a bad thing. The guy in the video isn't focused on the attack to his civil liberties by Chick-Fil-A (which is a rather abstract threat) but the perceived attack on his behavior by gay activists (which has immediacy). He heard the message "You can't do that", "that" being eat at Chick-Fil-A. His response is defensive: "No one is going to stop me from eating there" and then tries to support that reaction by minimizing and rationalizing: lots of people don't like gay marriage; everyone says "crazy" things and their opinions don't matter;  Chick-Fil-A makes good meals. I think his reaction is understandable when put in this context.

[Solo_LTSurvivor]

I think it is about the words. Even if Chick-Fil-A had no cases of discrimination and no donations to anti-gay organizations people who support gay marriage wouldn't like hearing Mr. Cathy's personal opinions opposing gay marriage and would avoid eating at his restaurants. If your neighbor, who has no political or financial clout, put a sign in his yard saying "I hate gays" I doubt your initial reaction would be "Oh, I really respect your right to free speech and look forward to hearing more of your insights." You would perceive it as an attack and react defensively, and that is not a bad thing. The guy in the video isn't focused on the attack to his civil liberties by Chick-Fil-A (which is a rather abstract threat) but the perceived attack on his behavior by gay activists (which has immediacy). He heard the message "You can't do that", "that" being eat at Chick-Fil-A. His response is defensive: "No one is going to stop me from eating there" and then tries to support that reaction by minimizing and rationalizing: lots of people don't like gay marriage; everyone says "crazy" things and their opinions don't matter;  Chick-Fil-A makes good meals. I think his reaction is understandable when put in this context.

He even felt the need to expound

[Miss Philicia]

I agree ... also its amusing to me to how people can go on FB and post things that are divisive and then be angered when people reply with an opposing view . They think we are going to just lay down and keep quite .   

LOL. A lesbian friend of mine de-friended her mother yesterday and then deactivated her FB account, but first she let loose this verbal tirade so that she would see it for 24 hours.

[GSOgymrat]

 

He even felt the need to expound

"Y'all done made me pull my hair back and stuff."

I almost snorted my drink when he said the fries may not always be hot but it's still good.

[Jeff G]

LOL. A lesbian friend of mine de-friended her mother yesterday and then deactivated her FB account, but first she let loose this verbal tirade so that she would see it for 24 hours.

I'm leaning towards losing the FB account myself .

[Miss Philicia]

Now now... running away from the hate we were just told is absolutely not the way to deal with such things!

[Jeff G]

Now now... running away from the hate we were just told is absolutely not the way to deal with such things!

Its true ... but when your own 72 year old mom attacks you for standing on your principles its called turning the other cheek not running away .

[denb45]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUmoTOujJ7Q&feature=youtu.be

"The waffle fries is BANGIN it's so good it's sickening"

somebody needs slap that queen for eating there   

[red_Dragon888]

This was probably the moment the "tea baggers" were waiting for.  something to sink their teeth into so to make the country listen and have a party at our expense.  the new news media loves this kind of crap so to harp on it and get as much fire as they can from angry people and protest.  well played media monkeys, you got the fire, now what's next.  the only logical step is that either this will last up to the election, not a chance, or something else aimed at any group will cause more protest or problems. 

Hell, i got enough homohate on my sims 3 games when my gay married couple are given sneers or curious looks from some onlookers.  what's that about?  lol

my point is that this was planned and is just bull the way hate is toss around like no buddies business.  of course my deepest wish is for either chick fil a are force to take back its comments or loose business for it's foul nature.  however, not on purpose, it helped put a topic on the map that is strongly talked about. 

[red_Dragon888]

"The waffle fries is BANGIN it's so good it's sickening"

somebody needs slap that queen for eating there 

some people just wants to be notice....

[leatherman]

the only logical step is that either this will last up to the election, not a chance, or something else aimed at any group will cause more protest or problems. 

a friend pointed out yesterday how the Dems adding gay marriage to their party platform makes gay marriage (once again) the rallying point for another election. This CFA situation is just the first salvo in that battle. my friend also believes Obama will probably lose, not because of wars, the economy, health care or contraception; but because of gay marriage.

[red_Dragon888]

a friend pointed out yesterday how the Dems adding gay marriage to their party platform makes gay marriage (once again) the rallying point for another election. This CFA situation is just the first salvo in that battle. my friend also believes Obama will probably lose, not because of wars, the economy, health care or contraception; but because of gay marriage.

sometimes we win, sometimes we lose, but it aint over till it is over...

[Miss Philicia]

my friend also believes Obama will probably lose, not because of wars, the economy, health care or contraception; but because of gay marriage.

riiiiiiiiiiiiight... like the anti-gay marriage folks were going to vote for Obama in the first place

EXCELLENT LOGIC!

[leatherman]

EXCELLENT LOGIC!

actually recent elections in the past (2010, the Bush elections, etc) have shown this (gay marriage) to be a contributing factor in the elections. The debate over gay marriage seems to rile up the anti-gay marriage group into being more active and getting more citizens out to the polls to vote. It's clearly a dog whistle to the right's base group. Many times in state and federal elections, the specter of gay marriage and/or rights has been brought forth in the final hours, since ordinary issues like health care or the economy didn't seem to be able to turn the tide for the right's desired outcome. Once again, we are seeing in the last months before the election, gay marriage being thrown into the political ring. Will it once again become the issue that shapes the election's outcome as it has before?

Have you not noticed how often gay marriage comes up at election times? (NC recently used this issue to influence their elections) I'm sure you have since you already understand that the "anti-gay marriage folks weren't going to vote for Obama in the first place", to paraphrase what you wrote. We know trying to get gay marriage rights actually brings out those anti-gay marriage voters, who go on to vote on other issues and candidates also. Many red states have the large amount of Republican legislators by just this method.

http://www.pewforum.org/Gay-Marriage-and-Homosexuality/Public-Opinion-on-Gay-Marriage-Opponents-Consistently-Outnumber-Supporters.aspx
http://www.pewforum.org/Gay-Marriage-and-Homosexuality/State-Policies-on-Same-Sex-Marriage.aspx

[red_Dragon888]

if you are right, i believe you are, then the republicians are using this as the last resort to win the election.  i hope it back fires.

[buginme2]

if you are right, i believe you are, then the republicians are using this as the last resort to win the election.  i hope it back fires.

Where I live there is a gay martiage referendum on the same ballot as the presidential election and the opposite is true.  A higher turn out should help both Obama and help pass the marriage referendum. 

[Matts]

The story was in the News tonight, quite hard stuff. The statements of some Republicans like Sarah Palin would be the end of their careers in Europe, because of political correctness.

But the kissing Gays at the street were cool.

[leatherman]

A higher turn out should help both Obama and help pass the marriage referendum.

it all depends on WHO turns out. A large turn-out doesn't mean the pro-gay marriage contingent will be the people going to the polls.

Back in May, NC had a much higher turn-out than normal for their statewide election . Even with a huge amount of discussion, media attention, and pro-gay grassroots efforts (especially for a Southern Bible-belt state), the DOMA-esque Amendment 1 received overwhelming support (due to the anti-gay religious sentiment in the state) and became a new amendment to the NC Constitution.

hopefully enough pro-gay marriage voters will turn out to overwhelm the anti-gay marriage voters in your state.

[tednlou2]

I kinda like what Jon Stewart said Thursday night. 

He said, "For people who are gay, I get how seeing thousands of people coming out to make this statement is incredibly disheartening.  But, take solace in this--gay marriage is happening.  Like many drive-thru window lanes, it isn't going backwards.  And, your bonus is this:  You'll get gay marriage.  And, all your political opponents are going to get is type 2 diabetes."

[tednlou2]

LOL. A lesbian friend of mine de-friended her mother yesterday and then deactivated her FB account, but first she let loose this verbal tirade so that she would see it for 24 hours.

My partner deactivated his FB account over this.  It's been a hot mess.  Who would have thunk chicken could do this?!  I've already discussed how his brother and sister-in-law have gotten all religious.  Well, his brother got religious after marrying her.  3 years ago, they told us they loved us, but believed in the Biblical definition of marriage.  Well, that caused a dust-up back then, especially between the wife and me.  I was just diagnosed, didn't have insurance at the time, and I really began to see why marriage equality was so important.  Equal rights, primarily.  But, we saw how I could not go on his insurance, he had no legal say in my care and could have been kicked out of the hospital at that time.  So, obviously, marriage had real meaning to us for the first time. 

So, we had some words 3 years ago, but then let it go.  We kept thinking they would come around.  Flash to a few days ago.  The brother "likes" Chick on FB.  Then, his wife posted a pic that made fun of the whole situation.  We are not friends with her, but she tagged my partner's brother in the pic.  So, that allowed us to see it.  My partner replied saying how insensitive both their posts were.  I was going to stay out of it, but their friends began making comments about my partner--how he just needs to get over it and that we were the ones spreading hate.  Well, that set me off.  I told them they should be ashamed for making those posts.  We were already hurt they would deny us the same rights they've exercised twice.  But, supporting Chick at this time was a huge betrayal, to us.  And, to post "funny" pix.  I told his brother he should also be ashamed for letting their friends discount his brother's feelings and not coming to his brother's defense.  I said they had a choice, and they could have just let this go.  Neither of them post that often, so they went out of their way to do this.  And, she knew by tagging her husband, we would be able to see it.  We think she did it on purpose. 

Anyway, they replied saying how we were attacking them.  My partner read it, but I didn't.  I went on to read it today, but they deleted it.  I'm kinda glad, but kinda wish I would have read exactly what they said.  Evidently, his parents had a good talking to with them.  The whole family was pissed they would do this and be so insensitive.  We heard a phone call was made to them.  At this point, we don't see how we can attend any family functions where they will be there.  He's gotten calls from other family members showing support.  He got one from his sister that left him in tears.  I rarely see him cry.  His dad is a huge Republican, but a big supporter of marriage equality.  His dad has been to pro-marriage equality fundraisers.  Several years ago, his dad was upset with us for not attending.  We didn't have the money then to make a donation, so didn't feel comfortable going.  Well, his dad was very disappointed that we didn't go.  He said he would have given us money to donate, and we should have gone anyway to just show support, even if we couldn't donate.  So, I do think about so many who have no family support.  We have most of his family and all of my immediate family.

Modified:

I know I already made a post in this thread about this, but that was before the huge blow up, parents involved, phone calls, etc.  My apologies for repeated info. 

[red_Dragon888]

Ah family... it's life way of saying "Take That!!!"  Sorry for your problems but at least you know where they stand.

[tednlou2]

Tonight, I got the message below from a longtime friend.  I was hurt, at first.  This guy is the nicest guy I've ever known.  He doesn't have a mean bone in his body.  I never knew him to be religious at all.  I'm still trying to figure out my feelings on his message.  It does come off as a back-handed compliment.  But, at the same time, I appreciate his honesty and feeling the whole Chick situation was full of hate.  I've posted so many pro-marriage equality things on FB and he's "liked" them.  So, his view about homosexuality took me by surprise.  I suppose what matters most is that a person can separate their religious views and constitutional issues.  What a week. 

"As you probably saw, I posted a silly song about the whole chic fil a fiasco on 8/1/12. I was tired of seeing and hearing about it everywhere. The whole thing had gotten silly, more on the part of the so called moral christians. I tried to write it that way. I hope you didn't take offense. I personally believe that homosexuality is wrong. I am not on this earth to judge or be judged, but I must interpret the Bible and what it says. Hate the sin, not the sinner. I am a sinner too. How could I judge your sins and not my own? i can't. And only God knows how to truly judge justly. Anyway, before I hang myself further with more words, what I am trying to say is: I have never, nor will I ever eat at chic fil a and I sure didn't eat there 8/1/12. The so called moral majority made it a point to and that is wrong in my opinion. That is hating a group of people and that is not what the Bible I read teaches."

[bocker3]

Ted,

I would thank your friend.  He seems sincere in his beliefs, but also knows that it is not HIS place to judge others and seems to come from a good place.  He understands that not everyone shares his religious beliefs and is OK with that too.  If only more devout people took his lesson, there would be much less strife in the world.

Mike

[Mrmojorisin]

 Wow, this whole ordeal with Chik-Fil-A really blew up and showed a lot of folks true colors. On the so called "Appreciation Day" I was growing tired of the pics of the crowded stores and comments about its "success". So I posted a simple status that said " I am tired of hearing about chik-fil-a........"
 Man that started something. Somebody posted that I "had" to support them because they are a "christian" business. I replied back that "no I did not "have" to support anyone". I went on to explain that while they may not agree with same-sex marriage that the very same US Constitution that grants them the right to their religion and their free speech also grants two men or two women the right to get married. And by the way, your religion urges you to talk about so called "morality" but does not urge you to legislate it.
 I got unfriended and blocked by 3 people.... 

[wolfter]

I've posted so many pro-marriage equality things on FB and he's "liked" them.  So, his view about homosexuality took me by surprise.  I suppose what matters most is that a person can separate their religious views and constitutional issues.  What a week. 

This happens quite often when I post things on FB.  I think people struggle with supporting us and living by their Christian beliefs.  Most of my family and a lot of my friends have issues with homosexuality, but they try to support who I am.  Your friend appears to be a real gem who is trying to support you.

On a side note; I got the benefit of listening to this entire debate last night at work.  Sometimes, I think they do it for my benefit.  One loud mouth stated that he has no problem with gays as they are some of the nicest people he knows.  As long as they don't hit on him.  (anyone else ever heard these comments? )

I got a pretty good laugh when I smugly told him he had nothing to worry about.  He loudly asked me why not to which I proclamed;  I know many gay people and they're very picky and I'm sure glad you're straight because you'd never get hit on.   

Wolfie

[red_Dragon888]

good one.  that put a nick in his straight armor...   

[red_Dragon888]

"As you probably saw, I posted a silly song about the whole chic fil a fiasco on 8/1/12. I was tired of seeing and hearing about it everywhere. The whole thing had gotten silly, more on the part of the so called moral christians. I tried to write it that way. I hope you didn't take offense. I personally believe that homosexuality is wrong. I am not on this earth to judge or be judged, but I must interpret the Bible and what it says. Hate the sin, not the sinner. I am a sinner too. How could I judge your sins and not my own? i can't. And only God knows how to truly judge justly. Anyway, before I hang myself further with more words, what I am trying to say is: I have never, nor will I ever eat at chic fil a and I sure didn't eat there 8/1/12. The so called moral majority made it a point to and that is wrong in my opinion. That is hating a group of people and that is not what the Bible I read teaches."

sounds like the gentleman protest too much....

[Miss Philicia]

I don't have any wacko pro-Chick-Fil-A people on my FB friends list. You boys need to pick your friends better.

[leatherman]

You boys need to pick your friends better.

sadly, you can't pick the family that brought you into the world.

[denb45]

sadly, you can't pick the family that brought you into the world.

But, you don't have to deal with them on that level, I sure don't, I just REFUSE to do so....
as long as they respect me for who I'am it's all good to me ......you could always move-out
and get your own place, then you can do whatever you chose to do...........amiright 

[jkinatl2]

sadly, you can't pick the family that brought you into the world.

True, but you don't have to friend them on FB. Or if you "must," then there are ways to corral them so that they don't bother you.

[anniebc]

sadly, you can't pick the family that brought you into the world.

Family or not I don't see why you should put up with any of them if they don't support your lifestlye but are willing to support those who are totally against it..especially on FB, there are less public ways of keeping in touch with them if that's what you want to do.

Jan

[leatherman]

True, but you don't have to friend them on FB. Or if you "must," then there are ways to corral them so that they don't bother you.

you do understand and realize that these family members were already friended a long time and just now spewing serious anti-gay bigotry as the CFA issue heated up? If this topic had never come up I wouldn't even be considering unfriending or "corralling" them.

Just like Ted, I've always had family members who didn't actually see eye-to-eye with me about homosexuality or about religion; but by keeping the lines of communication opened, I have been exposing them to ideas and opinions other than just the ones they have heard and learned in church, or even less credible sources. During this CFA situation, some have finally seen and now understand the hate and bigotry I've been telling them about for years, while others double-downed on their bigotry and ignorant religious points of view.

don't support your lifestlye

thank you; but my being homosexual has nothing to do with a "lifestyle". (You do realize that there is no "gay lifestyle", right?) Besides no one supports the "lifestyle" I'm living in anyway (a lifestyle of poverty, AIDS, and HIV advocacy)  but me.

[denb45]

 no one supports the "lifestyle" I'm living in anyway (a lifestyle of poverty, AIDS, and HIV advocacy)  but me.

and you would be so wrong about this 

[Miss Philicia]

sadly, you can't pick the family that brought you into the world.

Your family watches you mow the yard in a Speedo -- surely Chick-Fil-A pales in comparison in terms of a Rainbow Quotient.

[Jeff G]

Your family watches you mow the yard in a Speedo --

That's a lifestyle choice for you alright .   .

[denb45]

That's a lifestyle choice for you alright .   .

I want photos as proof of this  in full glory and all that


Hugs

DEN 

[Miss Philicia]

I want photos as proof of this  in full glory and all that


Hugs

DEN 

I'd probably get in trouble if I put them up.

[tednlou2]

I wrote back to my friend thanking him for the personal message.  I rambled on too long, so I won't post my long reply.  It was way too long.  I basically explained why marriage equality is so important to me and so many.  I thanked him for his compassion on the Chick issue.  While I wish he didn't view homosexuality as a sin, I know this is how millions are taught.  I'm not religious, so it is hard for me to understand how someone seemingly so intelligent could believe the way they do.  But, I wish so many others could, at least, separate their religious views from equal rights, like my friend does.   

My apologies for posting my FB conversations, but I was impressed that although he held deeply religious beliefs, he doesn't want to push those beliefs on others.  I had no idea he was brought up in a very "strict" church.  I didn't think he even went to church.  Obviously, he is fairly private about it.  Again, the important thing is that he is able to separate his religious views from laws.  A majority of Americans identify as being religious and interpreting the Bible literally.  Unfortunately, while so many are hypocrites, they want to single out homosexuality and deny rights using the Bible.  Btw, I did ask him if it would be okay to share what he said with friends.  Anyway, he replied back.

Ted,

I am glad you shared all of that. I grew up in a very strict house and went to a very strict church. Well, I still do go to a very strict church, that is when I am off work, which seems like is almost never. So, my interpretation of the Bible is very strict and was pounded into me growing up. But it's my interpretation. Everyone has their own interpretation and that is why I don't judge others for what they do or believe. I can't force others or impose my beliefs upon them and no one and no government should.

I guess that leads into this: Marriage equality. I do believe that the traditional Biblical view on marriage is between a man and a woman. I also remember Jesus saying when asked about taxes: Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and unto God what is God's. Making a statement that you must follow God's laws, but you must also do what your Government sees fit. Our government clearly made the laws of distinction when adding the separation of church and state. Therefore, I see nothing wrong with "gay marriage". Marriage has become a legal institution that was endowed by our creator, but still governed by the law of the land. I guess that is not a stunning endorsement, huh? Anyway what I am trying to say on this issue is, it's in our and ultimately our government's hands and I hope you and your partner get to marry soon. How about that? Oh and I hope you get to enjoy the same benefits as straight couples too.

I didn't write anything offensive about gays/lesbians in the song I wrote, but I did make light of the whole thing and I realize for you and my gay cousin and a lot of others out there making light of a heavy situation could seem offensive. It just burned me up to see all my church and conservative friends post about eating at chick fil a that day as if they had won some kind of holy war, when in my eyes it was like spitting in your face. Not the kind of love I interpret from the Bible. Caught some heat from the church friends, but Oh well.

I appreciate your time and candor. Just wanted to let you know whether you're straight or gay, you're still my friend.

Ryan
..

[GSOgymrat]

Mike Huddleston @MKHDDLSTN: Dear Religion, While you were debating what chicken sandwiches were okay to eat, I just landed on Mars. Sincerely, Your Pal Science

[red_Dragon888]

i guess "strict" = "homophobia"

Anyway the closeness of Jesus with Judas was a male love like no other...  I bet someone changed that story to protect their ideology or theology.

[bocker3]

i guess "strict" = "homophobia"

I think this is a bit out of line....  He stated what his beliefs were, but also pointed out that he didn't think he should push his beliefs on others -- NOR SHOULD THE GOVERNMENT. 
I, personally, think he should be applauded.  If more religious folks kept their beliefs to themselves and didn't try and impose them on others, this world would be a much better place.
You should try it yourself -- you don't believe in religion -- or his religion anyway -- fine, don't practice it.  If we want others to "live and let live", we need to do the same to folks who aren't there trying to hurt us.
Mike

[red_Dragon888]

Chick-fil-A and gay people
https://bluprd0411.outlook.com/owa/?ae=Item&a=Open&t=IPM.Note&id=RgAAAAD83urvjIZdSYQMccDF%2bUleBwC3PcEryjnWQ7K%2fa6fB60TsAAAAvKuiAAC3PcEryjnWQ7K%2fa6fB60TsAAAZPMcnAAAA&pspid=_1344414060398_514840995

Chick-fil-A COO Dan Cathy: Meet with Our Family

Started by: Marci, Atlanta, Georgia

My name is Marci Alt. I live in Atlanta, Georgia with Marlysa, my wife of 8 years, and our two children, where we lead a pretty normal life. My wife and I are both small business owners, and like many American families, our family enjoys family vacations, going to church and temple, and large cookouts with our extended family, friends and community.
However, many loving American families like ours face unfair hardships because they are denied the chance to legally marry.
Since 2003, Chick-fil-A has given more than $5 million to organizations that actively work to hurt LGBT Americans. These groups include the Family Research Council, which the Southern Poverty Law Center deems a hate group. Additionally, Chick-fil-A has donated to groups that have gone on record as calling for "criminal sanctions" against gay and lesbian Americans, as well as groups that promote so-called "ex-gay therapy," a practice both debunked and deemed as harmful by nearly every major medical authority in the country.
Chick-fil-A COO Dan Cathy himself said that our LGBT-accepting culture suffers from a "deprived mind," that marriage equality is "twisted up," and that making marriage equality legal is "inviting God's judgment."
Mr. Cathy has his opinion, but he should hear from us and from fellow Christians who disagree – and he should know how his donations are hurting families here in Georgia.
I'm inviting Chick-fil-A COO Dan Cathy and his family to join my family for dinner -- at his place or ours -- to see that we're just like any other American family. We care deeply about our faith, our family, our friends and our community, and think there's room to turn this debate into a dialogue.
Please join my family and GLAAD in calling on Chick-fil-A COO Dan Cathy to share a meal with an LGBT family.
Click here to sign Marci's petition, "Chick-fil-A COO Dan Cathy: Meet with Our Family".

You can also check out other popular petitions on Change.org by clicking here.

[anniebc]

". (You do realize that there is no "gay lifestyle", right?)

Leatherman...No!!! seriously?..Wow!! I never knew.

(you do realise you are an "idiot" , right?)

Report button is down in the right hand corner..but you know that don't you , you use it often enough.

Jan

[Ann]

Leatherman...No!!! seriously?..Wow!! I never knew.

(you do realise you are an "idiot" , right?)

Report button is down in the right hand corner..but you know that don't you , you use it often enough.

Jan

Sorry Jan, this is just over the top.


I'm appalled. You're allegedly an adult - try acting like one.

Seven days time out.

Grow up.

[GSOgymrat]

We want the freedom to deny minorities the equal protection guaranteed by our constitution based solely on the antiquated and largely ignored word of a primitive nomadic people whose complete and utter ignorance of the natural world allowed them to imagine they were speaking in the name of god almighty.

I think that about sums it up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZxFJm-lbZQ&feature=g-all-u

[Jeff G]

We now know the chicken crossed the road to get away from the homosexuals .

[OneTampa]

DC shooting at Family Research Council ("supported by" Chick Fil A against same sex marriage):

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/crime-scene/post/morning-shooting-in-northwest-dc/2012/08/15/845fe926-e6ec-11e1-8f62-58260e3940a0_blog.html


Edited to "supported by" as suggested by our astute observer Mike. 

[leatherman]

(supporters of Chick Fil A against same sex marriage)

actually as CFA was the donor, you should say "supported by CFA"