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fabio:
Just finished the second vaccine and I got some questions (since the doctor that was there didn't bother to explain). More specifically she said that in people living with HIV there's an issue that there aren't antibodies with the vaccine. That seemed quite ill informed and didn't make any sense,even my ID doc said that there ain't no issue.
Anyways, what matters is that I did the thing and I also start finals in about 3 hours. What's more is that I was treated to coffee right after by some barista 😂 lol.

J.R.E.:
U.S. COVID-19 cases rising again, doubling over three weeks


https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/health/2021/07/14/u-s--covid-19-cases-rising-again--doubling-over-three-weeks

nethan1621:

--- Quote from: fabio on June 07, 2021, 05:15:56 am ---Just finished the second vaccine and I got some questions (since the doctor that was there didn't bother to explain). More specifically she said that in people living with HIV there's an issue that there aren't antibodies with the vaccine. That seemed quite ill informed and didn't make any sense,even my ID doc said that there ain't no issue.
Anyways, what matters is that I did the thing and I also start finals in about 3 hours. What's more is that I was treated to coffee right after by some barista 😂 lol.

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Fabio , trust me its all about our body. Starting from the wuhan first case to millions positive cases around the world, i went all over the world 15hrs flying 18 hrs flying.. even very first few,  months withouts mask or gloves or sanitizers because those time nobody knew when to start how to start  protective measures.. and flights were full those days because people didnt know much about covid. However im still here nothing happened ( dont know about tomorrow) so with vaccine or not hiv or not, your body has its own way to fight it … vaccine could be extra helpful… i was exposed to all everywhere in the world on special permit,even though borders were closed  while others were at home and locked, now almost more than 1.4 years with corona… and heard some people just went to near by Pastry shop and infected with covid 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Im here still reaching to sky daily… its all about each other capacity regardless HiV plus or neg …. So meanwhile vaccine probably will do something to right person in right time 😁😁😁

Almost2late:
Not sure if this NYT article has been shared on the forum, but thought I'd drop it in this thread.
 

--- Quote ---Covid Is Especially Risky for People With H.I.V., Large Study Finds

People living with H.I.V. are more likely to become severely ill with Covid-19 and more likely to die if hospitalized than others infected with the coronavirus, according to a large new study. Nearly half of H.I.V.-infected men older than 65 who are hospitalized for Covid-19 may die, the study found.

The results, released ahead of an AIDS conference in Berlin, suggest that people with H.I.V. should be first in line for vaccines, along with older adults and others with weak immune systems, scientists said.

The data is especially pressing because many countries with high numbers of people with H.I.V. are battling surges of the coronavirus, fueled by the contagious Delta variant and a dearth of vaccines. About 95 percent of the people with H.I.V. included in the analysis were from sub-Saharan Africa, which is home to two-thirds of H.I.V. cases worldwide.

“The strength of this analysis is that we report data from the continent where the H.I.V. burden actually is occurring,” said Dr. Silvia Bertagnolio, an H.I.V. researcher at the World Health Organization who led the study.

Dr. Bertagnolio and her colleagues analyzed anonymized clinical data for 268,412 people hospitalized with Covid-19 that was reported to the W.H.O. from health facilities and national health registries in 37 countries from January 2020 to April 2021.

Of that group, the researchers had data for 15,522 people from 24 countries who were also infected with H.I.V. They had an average age of 45.5 years, and 37 percent were male. Nearly 92 percent were being treated with antiretroviral drugs. And many of the H.I.V.-infected patients, like others hospitalized for Covid-19, had other conditions such as high blood pressure, diabetes and obesity.

More than one-third of patients with H.I.V. were severely ill at the time of admission, and nearly one in four of those who were hospitalized for Covid-19 died. The risk of death in those older than 65 was higher still, and highest for older men.

After adjusting for age, sex, disease severity and the presence of other conditions, the researchers estimated that H.I.V. infection increases the odds of dying from Covid-19 by 30 percent.

The result contradicts findings from several smaller studies earlier in the pandemic that suggested that H.I.V. infection has no bearing on a person’s risk of severe illness or death from the coronavirus. But the new study is more biologically plausible than that earlier research, given H.I.V.’s ability to disrupt immune defenses, experts said.

“H.I.V. knocks out all the brakes on the immune system, and as a consequence you get this inflammatory response that’s robust and sustained — and now you got Covid on top of that,” said Dr. Steven Deeks, an H.I.V. expert at the University of California, San Francisco. “I would be surprised if H.I.V. was not associated with progression” of Covid-19.

Dr. Deeks disagreed with the study researchers’ decision to adjust the calculations for the presence of other conditions such as obesity because H.I.V. infection itself can cause many of those illnesses. “For 25 years, we’ve been arguing that a history of H.I.V. infection is an independent risk factor of progressing to heart disease, cancer, aging,” he said. Without that statistical adjustment, he said, the increased risk of death for these patients would have most likely been higher than the 30 percent reported by the study.

Many earlier studies had a bias that might have masked some of the risk: Doctors are more likely to admit Covid-19 patients with H.I.V. to the hospital, out of an abundance of caution, leading to patients who are less sick, and more likely to survive, compared with those who do not have H.I.V. That larger pool of patients would make H.I.V. infection appear to be less of a problem than it is, said Dr. Matthew Spinelli, an infectious disease physician at San Francisco General Hospital.

“Early studies may have led people down the wrong track on this question,” he said. The new study’s findings are more in line with large, population-based studies from South Africa and England showing that H.I.V. infection doubles the risk of dying from Covid-19, and from a similar study in New York State, he added.

The new findings should prompt doctors to provide people with H.I.V. swift access to monoclonal antibodies or antiviral drugs to treat Covid-19, Dr. Deeks said. The data also underscores the need to understand how H.I.V. infection affects a person’s response to a Covid vaccine, and whether some people with H.I.V. need boosters as many immunocompromised people do.

AIDS activists successfully fought for inclusion of people with H.I.V. in clinical trials of coronavirus vaccines, but the data is limited. A clinical trial in South Africa showed higher efficacy for the coronavirus vaccine made by Novavax when the analysis excluded people with H.I.V., suggesting that H.I.V. infection undermines the immune response to vaccines.

Out of 100 countries that have released information, 40 have listed people living with H.I.V. as a priority group for Covid-19 vaccination, said Dr. Meg Doherty, who directs H.I.V. programs at the W.H.O.

“We’re hoping in the future that we can make sure that H.I.V. is considered one of those potential risk factors for prioritization” in all countries, she said.

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Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/15/health/covid-hiv-risk-study.html

So I think that's a yes to the booster for me.

J.R.E.:

--- Quote from: Almost2late on July 19, 2021, 01:48:45 am ---
So I think that's a yes to the booster for me.

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I hate to think it, but it's kind of looking that way. We're back to wearing masks again in public places, and I still continue to keep my pocket hand- sanitizer with me. ughhhhhhhh.....

Ray 

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