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Hiv risk
« on: May 19, 2021, 10:44:25 am »
I have a concern yesterday I was hanging out with a guy and he started rubbing his penis on my butt he was fully clothed and so was I but he was precumming so much. I could feel the wetness on my pants. He tried to stick his finger in my mouth but I avoided it. I asked him his status and he told me he was undetectable. I知 super concern about this exposure. I知 still in the pep window should I go to the ER. I知 just concern his precum got in my rectum or on my cut cuticles. I don稚 know if he truly is undetectable or really has a viral load but I知 just concern the precum seeped through my pants in my rectum and somehow he got his precum in a mucous membrane area. He also bit my butt but I had jeans on. I知 just anxious since I知
Never sexually active. He did show me his viral load but it didn稚 have his name and date so I知 concerned he just got it from the internet.

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Re: Hiv risk
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2021, 12:18:04 pm »
Hiya,

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I have a concern yesterday I was hanging out with a guy and he started rubbing his penis on my butt he was fully clothed and so was I but he was precumming so much. I could feel the wetness on my pants. He tried to stick his finger in my mouth but I avoided it. I asked him his status and he told me he was undetectable. I知 super concern about this exposure.


Read your post, what you posted was zero HIV risk whatsoever.

Sticking a finger in your mouth, biting your ass and rubbing against you lacks all the required conditions needed to acquire HIV.

You did not acquire HIV from this incident, that much is sure.

Here's what you need to know to avoid HIV infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions. Consider talking to your health care provider about taking PrEP going forward as an additional layer of HIV protection.

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as 壮afe in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

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Re: Hiv risk
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2021, 01:48:43 pm »
I know it sounds silly but he痴 positive and even if he touched his precum and did touch my face and lips (risk 1)and his precum got on my
Jeans butt area (risk 2) and they were wet you would think it痴 a no risk. I知 just wondering how far did the precum seep through.  Also I have really bad open cuticles that have sores that wouldn稚 be consider an open passage right?

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Re: Hiv risk
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2021, 02:12:31 pm »
Hiya.

As explained it's zero HIV risk.

This has also been fully explained on another forum online as well, I don't have anything to add really.

See even if he had pulled his pants down, masturbated and cum all over your ass it would still be zero HIV risk to you.

Skin issues, cuts, wounds sores and whatever other conditions you have would not change anything to this assessment.

You had no contact with viable HIV, it's fragile and the issues mentioned lack route. If HIV was spread the way you fear half the planet would be living with HIV by now.

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Re: Hiv risk
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2021, 03:10:21 pm »
Last question and I won稚 ask anymore.

If I did get some of his precum from his hands into my mouth, the mouth is considered a mucous membrane. Would that be consider a risk?
That would be consider like oral sex right ?

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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2021, 03:34:23 pm »
You already asked about fingers in your mouth and precum and I already said no HIV risk.

Your focusing on details out of context to find a risk where  there is none and ignoring what is being said both here and on the other forum.

So final time, No HIV risk whatsoever. I already mentioned that transmission is sexually limited to certain activities within the confines of the human body.

See HIV is fragile and the receptors needed to infect corrode once exposed outside the human body, his fingers and wet jeans are exposed outside of the body before even getting near you and in addition, this concern would lack a number of other basic conditions required to acquire HIV.

Your mouth would only be a concern if you had given him a blowjob and even in that situation It's such a minute risk that we don't even recommend specifically testing over it.

See the mouth generally lacks a route for HIV to infect,  and even if you had gaping holes in your mouth like meth mouth saliva also acts to neutralize HIV by damaging the receptors needed to infect human cells.

But you didn't mention giving him a blowjob just his fingers so you had no HIV risk from this encounter whatsoever.

Move on with your life, use condoms for any intercourse and test out of standard routine at least yearly for STI's and HIV.





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Re: Hiv risk
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2021, 01:39:24 pm »
I have done a lot of reading and some of the post go back and forth saying there is no risk for oral and there is.

My exposure is with a actual hiv positive person, he was dry humping very aggressively and his precum got on my jeans and my butt area was wet from this and I'm afraid it got into my rectum. The other concern i had was that he got got his fingers in my mouth with precum and believe to have touch some bodily fluid of his but couldn't see what i touched cause it was dark and according to my dr that is high risk so i did start pep. My concern is i been having body aches, headaches and nightsweats which i never have had before and i believe i am seroconverting. Which leads me to my next question my family has been using my restroom and they used my toothbrush which my gums bleed and i am afraid i exposed them that way and my other concern is that i masturbated in the bathroom toilet and i cleaned it up but didn't realize my mother used it like 30mins later is that a risk exposure to her incase i did not clean it all up well? Once i finish PEP they wanted me to test exactly when i finish it and every month for 6 months. I plan on doing a NAT test 2 weeks after i finish my PEP. Did i expose my family with my tooth brush or semen? i would not be able to handle the guilt.

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Re: Hiv risk
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2021, 02:09:34 pm »
You are on PEP, started after an encounter that does not at all appear to be a risk,  since nothing in your narrative indicates a risk, just mistaken presumption and anxiety on your part, so you most certainly did not/will not contract the virus from the described encounter.

You also did not in any way, shape, or form, put your family at risk.

The HIV is fragile, and simply does not survive in the ambient environment to infect you in the manners you describe throughout your post.

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Re: Hiv risk
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2021, 02:24:33 pm »
even if his viral load was high and he got precum in my mouth that would not matter? For the frottage i had jeans on and even though they were wet wouldn't make its way to the rectum?


If the semen from my masturbation was fresh and my mother used the bathroom and unknowingly sat on it or it splashed back at her from using the restroom, still no risk right?

If i am getting these tiny red dots on my chest is that ARS?

He is confirm hiv positive i just don't know if he is undetectable and i am sure he got his fingers in mouth with precum and just my other risk being precum in my butt from him aggressively  thrusting(there would be no way it to go inside my rectum)

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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2021, 02:32:54 pm »
This has been fully explained to you both here and on another forum. Were not going to pretend what you posted was an HIV risk or continue to answer questions already answered.

If you come back with more on this topic you will see your access here blocked.

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You already asked about fingers in your mouth and precum and I already said no HIV risk.

Your focusing on details out of context to find a risk where  there is none and ignoring what is being said both here and on the other forum.

So final time, No HIV risk whatsoever. I already mentioned that transmission is sexually limited to certain activities within the confines of the human body.

See HIV is fragile and the receptors needed to infect corrode once exposed outside the human body, his fingers and wet jeans are exposed outside of the body before even getting near you and in addition, this concern would lack a number of other basic conditions required to acquire HIV.

Your mouth would only be a concern if you had given him a blowjob and even in that situation It's such a minute risk that we don't even recommend specifically testing over it.

See the mouth generally lacks a route for HIV to infect,  and even if you had gaping holes in your mouth like meth mouth saliva also acts to neutralize HIV by damaging the receptors needed to infect human cells.

But you didn't mention giving him a blowjob just his fingers so you had no HIV risk from this encounter whatsoever.

Move on with your life, use condoms for any intercourse and test out of standard routine at least yearly for STI's and HIV.
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Re: Hiv risk
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2021, 04:51:15 pm »
SorryJim, I am just having so many symptoms and can i have you explain what you mean by minute risk, that's what i am confused about? Can i just ask for reassurance did i expose my family, with my tooth brush with blood and fresh semen?


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« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2021, 05:20:36 pm »
SorryJim, I am just having so many symptoms and can i have you explain what you mean by minute risk, that's what i am confused about? Can i just ask for reassurance did i expose my family, with my tooth brush with blood and fresh semen?

You had no HIV risk from what you posted, this has been explained and the reasons why including that HIV is fragile. If you gave them a blowjob it would be a minute risk that does not warrant testing and as far as I am aware you did not give them a blowjob so...

Toilet seats and toothbrushes etc are not an HIV concern either for the same reasons, lacks all the conditions needed.

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« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2021, 03:59:56 pm »
I was sexually assaulted by someone who is hivPositive. He beat me and tried to take my clothe off but I fought him off. While I was fighting him I did come in contact with fluids on his hands which I知 sure was semen I don稚 think it was blood. He also spit on my face and put his hands on my face which had semen I don稚 think any of it got in my mouth but for sure touched my lips and mouth. I had shaved my face maybe like an hour before if I had a cut and his semen got in contact with that cut is that a risk? I知 also diabetic so I had to check my blood sugar with a finger prick. If his fluids came in touch with that area where I pricked my fingers to check my sugar is that a risk? He also pressed his penis against my anus but I had leggings on. I wasn稚 concern about the incident but I started getting super sick with a sore throat, fever, night sweats, body aches and now I知 anxious and dealing with ptsd. My symptoms started 2.5weeks ago. There was no sex of any sort.

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« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2021, 04:27:53 pm »
Hiya,

Sorry to hear that you were assaulted and it sounds like you know the person considering you are aware of their HIV status. I hope you are getting whatever support you feel you need.

Anyhow, as horrible as the experience was, this assault was no an HIV risk to you whatsoever.

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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2021, 04:57:46 pm »
I have filed a police report and seeking therapy. If I had the prick wound from the blood sugar testing(check my sugar in the morning)and It got semen on it later that night from fighting him off or semen on my face/lips possibly even inside my mouth(worse case scenario) that wouldn稚 pose a risk at all right? I know him pressing his penis against my anus isn稚 a risk cause I had leggings on so that would be no risk right neither would the spitting? I didn稚 wash my hands right away after this incident so his semen was on my skin for an hour or so. Does this change anything. Sorry I知 just anxious cause of symptoms, do you think they池e related?

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« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2021, 05:09:27 pm »
Correct nothing you mentioned is an HIV risk.

Everything you mentioned lacks all the biological and environmental conditions needed for you to acquire HIV. You did not acquire HIV from this event, that much is certain.
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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2021, 07:39:27 pm »
Hiv is only transmitted via unprotected sex or Iv usage right?
The person who assaulted me is hiv positive for a fact. My symptoms is what not letting me shake off that I am seroconverting. Cut and wound have to be actively bleeding for there to be an exposure im assuming. I知 just scared that I知 going to get hiv from this assault. Hiv starts dying once exposed to air from reading what痴 on the forums. Thanks for your time Jim.

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« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2021, 04:32:13 am »
In adults, your risks are; Sex, IV drug usage and extremely rare nowadays blood transplants & products.

I would not say dying, but one of the many barriers to your concern does include that HIV is fragile and the receptors needed to cause infection corrode once exposed to the environment outside the confines of the human body.

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« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2021, 03:37:06 pm »
Hi Jim,
I have a question. During my interview with the officer I just had recently he asked me if I was sure it was semen I came in contact with semen and not blood and if I had any cuts on my hands or wounds. I had never though of the blood scenario till the interview.
I mentioned the lancet pricks that I do in the mornings to check my blood sugar  but I don稚 know if they池e consider deep wounds and besides chewing on my nails and fingers which I would have opened cuticles. So this guy is confirmed hiv positive and I don稚 know about his viral load.. If I actually came in contact with blood on my hands and I had actual cuts I didn稚 wash my hands till hours later. Is this a risk? I know we don稚 discuss symptoms but I am still having symptoms. A sore throat wouldn稚 that I致e had 2 weeks after the incident and it hasn稚 gone away. I知 not sexually active and haven稚 been in a while. Do you think I have anything to worry about. The officer gave me a bunch of different scenarios. 1. Humping through my leggings isn稚 a risk
2. Hun Touching my lips with who knows what fluids 3. Coming incontact with blood or semen on hands with possible cuts and didn稚 wash hands till hours later

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« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2021, 03:50:31 pm »
Hiya,

Nothing you mentioned is an HIV risk.

Any cuts, scrapes and/or minor wounds in your skin, hands etc will not provide a route for HIV and it does not change that any fluids you were in contact with had also already been exposed outside of the confines of the human body.

 
In adults, your risks are; Sex, IV drug usage and extremely rare nowadays blood transplants & products.

I would not say dying, but one of the many barriers to your concern does include that HIV is fragile and the receptors needed to cause infection corrode once exposed to the environment outside the confines of the human body.

When you say officer I presume you mean police officer? It's not new to this community that law enforcement (and the media) is stuck in 1984 in terms of HIV knowledge, it's often enough a topic as some police forces even believe spitting is an issue let alone contact with fluids on hands & skin etc.

However, the facts are you did not acquire HIV from this assault, that much is certain.

Best, Jim
 


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« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2021, 04:07:02 pm »
Silly me.

I see it now, threads merged and you're banned fully and permanently this time.
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