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Author Topic: Viral load blip- scared to death  (Read 928 times)

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Offline thomas1947

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Viral load blip- scared to death
« on: January 11, 2018, 11:45:10 am »

Greetings, I have been HIV poz for 4 years and have been
Undetectable, until my last blood work whic shows a
Cd4 640 which has gone up but my viral load spiked to
192. My doc who has language issues said not to worry.
But I am worried. He said next blood work he bets it will lower to
Undectectable again.
Am I freaking out for probably nothing. help. Are blips common!
I also have a bad anxiety disorder which is not helping!!!

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Re: Viral load blip- scared to death
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2018, 11:55:42 am »
language issues?

Anyhow yeah blips do happen. Your doctor sounds like he knows what he is doing. The course of action i would expect if it was me is none really. Continue to take the meds and remeasure next time.

Vial blips can happen from being ill or recovering from sickness, lab error and a number of other reasons, as long as you are adherent to the meds, you should be expecting the next measurement to be UD again.

There are plenty of reliable sources on this, I've added two below and hope they can help give you some reassurance.

Jim

http://i-base.info/guides/changing/viral-load-blips

http://www.aidsmap.com/Viral-blips/page/1729801

 
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Offline thomas1947

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Re: Viral load blip- scared to death
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2018, 12:10:40 pm »
Thanks Jim, I had myself dead by 2019
I am doing everything right - compliance, exercise
No drinking or pot, celibacy and still a blip

My doc is from Germany and struggles sometimes with English

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Re: Viral load blip- scared to death
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2018, 12:24:55 pm »
Well congrats on the no drinking and healthier lifestyle.  Look don't see the blip as a judgment or loose motivation. It happens even when we do hings right and with time I am sure most of us will or do blip if we notice it or not. 
 
Not too sure about the celibacy thing though ... but each to himself.

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Offline thomas1947

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Re: Viral load blip- scared to death
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2018, 12:28:09 pm »
Celibacy is not a choice. I am 70- Need I say more!

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Re: Viral load blip- scared to death
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2018, 12:34:58 pm »
 :) Okay. That said you never know, new year and all who knows what 2018 will bring.

Whatever 2018 brings or does not I do hope you can at least put the anxiety out of your mind on the VL. Anxiety is unhealthy if you ask me.

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Re: Viral load blip- scared to death
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2018, 02:50:19 am »
I think you may have identified your challange for 2018.  Get sucessful treatment for your anxiety.

If it is causing you problems then it is a disorder/ medical condition..  Take it as seriously as your physical health.

Offline thomas1947

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Re: Viral load blip- scared to death
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2018, 03:09:18 pm »
Appreciate your thoughts, but I am seeing a therapist. Anxiety is tricky. It flares it s ugly head and you have to use all your bags of tricks. As a mental health therapist, I truly recognize that for many anxiety/depression is a lifetime battle. Do you think some anxiety is not warranted with my blip?

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Re: Viral load blip- scared to death
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2018, 04:05:36 pm »
but my viral load spiked to 192.
My doc said not to worry.
and your doctor was right. Ten yrs ago or so, >500 was considered undetectable. But the tests got better and now we're able to measure clear down to 20 for the average test. (there is a test that measures to "2" but it's really expensive and not worth the cost for most patients unless a study requires this kind of exact data). Right now all the CDC guidelines are based on a viral load of 200 or less as their official number for "undetectable".

Your tiny VL blip of 192 (the famous micro-blip©) doesn't even break that level.
so really, you have no worries  ;)


btw, on a totally personal anecdotal level, I've been living with HIV for 33 yrs and had more blips than I can shake a stick at. Of course, all blips are at little worrisome; but to put it in perspective, if you have a viral load blip of <1000 don't sweat it and wait on the next blood test your doctor orders; if you have a viral load blip of >5000 then worry and ask you doctor for recommendations.   ;D
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Offline thomas1947

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Re: Viral load blip- scared to death
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2018, 04:15:22 pm »
I surely do appreciate hearing this. I recognize that my anxiety disorder plays a large part in my drama- Thank God for  Lexapro
The other part of the problem is I have no other friends who are dealing with HIV because they died of the disease in the 80ís. I really admire and honor these men like
you who are courageously making it work. :).

Offline scottL

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Re: Viral load blip- scared to death
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2018, 10:34:12 pm »
Yeah I have been on meds for 14 years and one time I had a blip and I think my doctor ordered another viral load test 30 days later just to be safe and I was undetectable again.

No worries.

Offline thomas1947

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Re: Viral load blip- scared to death
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2018, 10:32:17 am »
My doc told me to chill out- that she is certain
the blip will return to undetectable next time! Thanks

 


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