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Main Forums => Living With HIV => Topic started by: Dachshund on February 16, 2008, 09:14:43 am
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/15/aids.medicalresearch?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront
Caltech's Nobel winning biologist David Baltimore, who won the prize for his 1975 discovery of an enzyme later proven to be part of HIV's reproductive mechanism, said yesterday that science is no closer to creating an effective vaccine for HIV than they were 25 years ago and that a vaccine may never be found.
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oops, I see this topic is posted in research. mods feel free to delete or merge.
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there is no money in a cure!!!
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I have somehow always not expected to see a vaccine in my life time.. with or without HIV. There are still many infectious diseases out there that do not have a 100% proof vaccine. What I hope is to see cheap, non-toxic and effective regiment of meds that can reduce HIV to such a tolerable level that one's life can more or less be assured of total normalcy with manageable side effects. In other words, HIV will become just another "social disease" that can be treated effectively by cheap and readily available meds for everyone.
there is no money in a cure!!!
It's been argued many times, and just to put my position forward - the above, respectfully, is BS..
Shaun
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Frankly this has always been one of my operating assumptions, which is why I've always refused to fixate on the subject unlike some folks.
However, I'm quite optimistic in wildly improving treatments now.
And yes, the "no money in a cure" conspiracy theorists are full of BS.
n his address Baltimore also attacked George Bush's record on science. "There has been an attempt to suppress government scientists from speaking out, there has been control of what scientists can go to scientific meetings and give talks - something totally unknown to us in previous years. That kind of attempt to control scientific information will, I hope, end with the Bush administration."
The NERVE of this man!
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By the end of the 19th century increasing traffic in New York City meant rising figures in horses. That meant an increasing amount of horseshit and scientists of that time seriously predicted that New York would be under a 100 foot shitcover within the next decade. And the result?
A lot of shit, but not on the streats... ;D
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there is no money in a cure!!!
Rot. By this simplistic logic, there would have been no attraction to curing syphilis, preventing polio by vaccine or eradicating smallpox.
All these things have been done.
MtD
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I have never thought that there would be a vaccine or even a cure. I don't think it is some big conspiracy by the pharmaceutical companies or anything wacky like that, but from what I know about HIV, I just don't see it happening. I have accepted that fact and I am not going to live my life obsessing over it. I also hope to see treatments that are cheaper and more available to everyone and don't have the major side effects that can happen. I am greatful that I am not one who has had to deal with that on my regimine and am able to live a pretty normal life and have a normal pregnancy, but I know I am an ideal case and not what is typical. More people should be able to get that from their regimine and hopefully that can happen in the future.
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I have never thought that there would be a vaccine or even a cure. I don't think it is some big conspiracy by the pharmaceutical companies or anything wacky like that, but from what I know about HIV, I just don't see it happening. I have accepted that fact and I am not going to live my life obsessing over it.
Coffeechick,
You took the words right out of my mouth. I'm not saying it couldn't happen, just that I'm not going to waste whatever time I have left dwelling on it. What good would that do?
Daniel
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I learnt years ago, with my first partner... Ignore all the 'news flash', 'miracle cure' stories that the media sensationalize .. wait until it is reported by something credible... slowly I've taught my parter this too... Years ago there was the whole "ozone therapy cures hiv/aids", and many other fads.. so I'll wait for my doctor to tell me about it, and won't get too excited about anything I read :-)
J
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That's a good attitude J,
I do believe once an actual vaccine or cure is found, there will be no avoiding hearing about it from credible sources. It will be everywhere. In the meantime, I’ll just live life as best I can, and not waste any of it wishing upon a star. Otherwise, I might have wasted the nearly two decades since my diagnosis and made life more difficult for nothing.
Daniel
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I guess attitude is this: it's too late for me in regards to a vaccine now, so I don't give it much thought. Better treatment sure, I will hold out for that, cure, I am not so sure, so I am not going to hold my breath.
I can't focus on the would of, could of, should of crap, I only have today, and today is what I am living for.
Just my two cents!
Jeromy
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Back in the early days, I used to hope for cure, or at least a vaccine.
But that was a long time ago. Now, I don't waste my time or energy on those ideas.
I am just grateful treatments have improved, though I am still curious what the long-term effects of some of them will be.
Basically, I just just take it a day at a time and hope for the best.
HUGS,
Mark
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Basically, I just just take it a day at a time and hope for the best.
HUGS,
Mark
That's the only way to do things. I myself never thought there would be a cure. I really don't even think about it now. Just take the meds and keep going.
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Mark,
Learning that one day – this day – is all anyone can count on was an invaluable lesson for me to learn. I try not to waste any of them on what ifs and whys.
I’m also grateful that treatments have improved, and I'm glad I held off taking the meds I was being encouraged to take back in 1988. I'm in awe that you and others got through and survived those years actually.
Daniel
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I’m also grateful that treatments have improved, and I'm glad I held off taking the meds I was being encouraged to take back in 1988. I'm in awe that you and others got through and survived those years actually.
I was just writing a post and saw what Daniel just wrote - and feel it says it best.
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I'm in awe that you and others got through and survived those years actually.
Daniel
Most of us almost didn't (survive).
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And that was and is a tragedy, Betty.
It's also why I am grateful that I refused to go along with the status quo of those days, despite the objections of my doctors.
Daniel