Author Topic: Saddam will be hung within 30 days (Read 12320 times)

Jody · « **on:** December 26, 2006, 11:14:55 pm »

Today we got news that Saddam Hussein will be hung within 30 days...Who could feel sorry for him but the question begs as to where this will bring the quagmire that is Iraq as a result. One would hope that the Iraqi people would use his death sentence to end the civil war there (can we call a spade a spade please) but already there is talk of a Sunni revolt against the shoestring government they have in place...When will we be able to get our troops (and others) home safely and see peace there? When can we stop hemmoraging money and spend it on things that help us in constructive ways? With our New Year less than a week away I hope and pray for peace everywhere on earth.

Jody

aztecan · « **Reply #1 on:** December 26, 2006, 11:28:04 pm »

Jody,

You ask some good questions. Unfortunately, I've heard no good answers to them.

Heaven knows I don't have a clue how to fix the mess ol' what's-his-name in D.C. got us into.

Let us all just pray for peace.

HUGS,

Mark

P.S. By the way, the correct term is hanged, not hung. (I know, its the damn editor in me.)

Longislander · « **Reply #2 on:** December 26, 2006, 11:32:54 pm »

Quote

P.S. By the way, the correct term is hanged, not hung. (I know, its the damn editor in me.)

...and it was the homo in Jody!!

David_CA · « **Reply #3 on:** December 26, 2006, 11:34:14 pm »

Quote from: aztecan on December 26, 2006, 11:28:04 pm

P.S. By the way, the correct term is hanged, not hung. (I know, its the damn editor in me.)

That's right. It's good to be hung, but not so good to be hanged. (It's the damned queer in me.)

skeebo1969 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 27, 2006, 08:09:01 am »

How did he know Saddam was hung is what I want to know?

Ann · « **Reply #5 on:** December 27, 2006, 09:04:59 am »

Well, if Saddam was really hung, maybe he would have been a porn star instead of a dictator and we wouldn't be in the mess we're in!

swede_dish · « **Reply #6 on:** December 27, 2006, 04:51:34 pm »

DICKtator.

twofires · « **Reply #7 on:** December 27, 2006, 05:45:10 pm »

there hasn't been peace in th emiddle east for the last couple thousand years....

who are we to hope to achieve it in the blink of an eye?

better to just get our collective asses out of it, back to safe harbor

let it sort itself out, while keeping nuclear things out of the equation as best we can

mankind is still eons away from full potential, i fear

twofires · « **Reply #8 on:** December 27, 2006, 05:49:22 pm »

at any rate, I say Saddam is lucky to get snuffed out; saves years of additional torment he probably ought to suffer, just for sufferings' sake...

Queen Tokelove · « **Reply #9 on:** December 27, 2006, 10:46:43 pm »

Honestly, I feel no remorse for him...One life for the millions he's taken.

RapidRod · « **Reply #10 on:** December 28, 2006, 03:30:14 am »

I hope it's windy and he swings in the wind. What tribe use to bring to young trees and cross them and tied the person to the trees and cut the rope and split the person into? That is really what needs to be done. But then someone would have to clean the shit up.

fearless · « **Reply #11 on:** December 28, 2006, 04:10:22 am »

I don't support the death penalty, no matter what.
He will just be made a martyr, and the killings will continue.
How naive to think you can impose democracy on a society that knows not what it means by simply removing a dictator that you have supported for years.

RapidRod · « **Reply #12 on:** December 28, 2006, 04:32:10 am »

Steve, did anyone say that just by removing the dictator that you will automatically achieve a democracy? I don't think anyone believed that. I don't think they should have pulled him out of his hole. One bullet to the head and the story would have been over.

fearless · « **Reply #13 on:** December 28, 2006, 05:35:51 am »

No Rod, but I think history will show that you (and I include Aus in this, as we are in there too) don't impose a democracy from outside. It is something that comes from within, the will of the people.
All that removing Saddam has achieved is to let ethnic and religious tensions, that were previously suppressed (albeit by a dictator) rise to the surface. And for that, I blame the colonialsts who originally divided the middle east up to suit there own selfish needs.
No good will come from the current situation. 100's of thousands of lives have been lost, for what? and more will be lost. It's a tragedy.
One bullet in the head! - well, as I said, I don't believe in the death penalty. The west supported Saddam for years, because it suited them, then they turned on him, again because it suited their purposes.

RapidRod · « **Reply #14 on:** December 28, 2006, 05:50:41 am »

At least he won't be able to gas another 100 thousand people to death.

Dachshund · « **Reply #15 on:** December 28, 2006, 08:37:38 am »

.........table for two?

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Val · « **Reply #16 on:** December 28, 2006, 11:39:57 am »

Steve,

Besides Saddam, the other war criminals were just judged by their own people in Europe i.e. Aznar, Bambi (his party got slapped in the face) and the Mafioso Berlusconi are almost all out of power and in disgrace.
How about the other war criminal known as the primus inter pares who is still in power in North America? And his clique? Condy, Rumsfeld, Powell and the like... They should all be hanged with Saddam as well.

Val
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RapidRod · « **Reply #17 on:** December 28, 2006, 11:59:28 am »

Hundreds of Iraqis Apply to Be Saddam Hussein's Hangman

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,239539,00.html

Val · « **Reply #18 on:** December 28, 2006, 02:03:25 pm »

Makes one wonder how much the U.S. and especially Fox News --- if there is one news channel that cannot be trusted, this is it! --- have paid to put all this phony scene together!

Val
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P.S. No offense, Rod!

Cliff · « **Reply #19 on:** December 28, 2006, 02:38:17 pm »

The appeals process sure seems quick. He was just convicted. $:-\$

oh well. No love to Saddam and his murdering ilk on this end.

jack · « **Reply #20 on:** December 28, 2006, 03:33:38 pm »

The Iraqis should make it a pay for view event, it would rake in billions. Maybe have W as the executioner?
How about start of the show with letting some Kurds have their way with Saddam, sorta of like that basement scene in "pulp fiction". Then while they are cleaning Saddam up for the main event, you could televise some the local axing of appendages for offenses such as whacking off or homosexuality. Then a couple of decapitations of local troublemakers, and of course the hanging of Saddam. Then you bring in some of those crazy Afghans and let them play that polo game where they use human heads like hockey pucks.

RapidRod · « **Reply #21 on:** December 28, 2006, 04:06:20 pm »

How about like in Deliverance, squeal like a piggy, Saddam.

RapidRod · « **Reply #22 on:** December 28, 2006, 04:07:36 pm »

No offense taken Val. Fox didn't write the story. The Times did, which like FOX, is a subsidiarity of International New Group.

libvet · « **Reply #23 on:** December 29, 2006, 12:07:49 am »

Good riddance to bad rubbish. He won't be missed.

It still wasn't worth the effort to make it happen. Iraq is prime example of the sheer arrogance and futility of trying to change a country through military invasion and occupation. It was a lousy idea hatched by a so-called think tank that cobbled together a really pathetic rationalization for the use of military force to try to shape another country and culture to one more of our liking. It was never about national security, although I suppose some people actually did believe it was among the populace. I don't think for a second that anyone truly in the position to make these decisions did so out of any real concern about a threat posed by a petty dictator that we had contained for over a decade.

The republicans for the most part had be hijacked by some idiotic fervor of using our military to force change in the region and seized on the attacks of 9/11 as an excuse to do something they were practically salivating to do for years before 9/11. Some saw it as a way to open new markets to the US and enrich themselves. Others had a barely hidden notion that through imperialism, we could extend our influence in a way that would make the history books and that we could create a different and better world by use of the sword.

The democrats weren't much better. They capitulated for fear of being smeared as weak on national defense. God bless the 21 democrats and 1 republican and 1 independent in the Senate, and the 81 democrats and 6 republicans and 1 democrat that voted against this idiotic idea.

And the White House wanted to make a name for itself for posterity and to achieve a permanent empirical validation of their agenda and way of thinking.

In the end, Iraq is basically a pyrrhic victory.

jack · « **Reply #24 on:** December 29, 2006, 06:29:47 am »

Huh? Still hard to believe anyone really thinks someone in administration went to war to enrich themselves or friends. Some of the other stuff in your post might be true. In the shadow of 911 it would have been irresponsible for any US president not to take out Saddam. Clinton,lurch,and most powerful Dems said he had WMD and he should be taken out prior to Bush presidency.
I never remember anything about starting a Democracy there prior to going in. I was in an argument with a friend of mine from the left coast who says that was one of the reasons given before war.
What amazes me is how little both parties know and understand the culture in the mid east. They hate us because we always appear weak to them. We cut and ran in Beirut and Somalia. We ignored the African Embassy bombings. We treated the first WTC bombers as common criminals rather than an enemy attacking our country. They believe our civilization in in decline because we refuse to destroy our enemies and would rather appease. The recent Baker report just strengthens those beliefs.
Anyone read George Friedmans "americas secret war"? pretty interesting and not political so it will piss off both sides.

joemutt · « **Reply #25 on:** December 29, 2006, 07:08:54 am »

Quote from: Ann on December 27, 2006, 09:04:59 am

Well, if Saddam was really hung, maybe he would have been a porn star instead of a dictator and we wouldn't be in the mess we're in!

Well he still has a few days to join the immensely poular I love porn thread on these forums

Dachshund · « **Reply #26 on:** December 29, 2006, 08:06:11 am »

When will our consciences grow so tender that we will act to prevent human misery rather than avenge it?

Eleanor Roosevelt

Val · « **Reply #27 on:** December 29, 2006, 05:58:57 pm »

The Europeans, in general, are against death penalty. And it is only logical to expect that they make their voice heard in the following days. I, for one thing, would not be surprised at all if an ""independent newspaper"" in the U.S. brought to light this whole affair i.e. The Bush Administration political pressures and manoeuvres to make it coincide with the Republican political agenda...

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article1959073.ece

Val
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The U.S.A. esteemed company in the practice of state death includes such human rights luminaries as the Sudan, Kuwait, China and republics of the former Soviet Union among others...

RapidRod · « **Reply #28 on:** December 29, 2006, 07:53:16 pm »

Well they didn't speak loud enough; he's to be hung tonight. Will be Saturday there.

Grasshopper · « **Reply #29 on:** December 30, 2006, 03:46:31 am »

Like the saying goes: "Cada puerqo tiene su sabado".

frenchpat · « **Reply #30 on:** December 30, 2006, 04:35:05 am »

I don't understand how one can rejoice in another human being's death. No matter who he is.

an interesting read:

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/fisk/article2112555.ece

Pat

RapidRod · « **Reply #31 on:** December 30, 2006, 05:07:10 am »

Doesn't bother me one bit in the rejoicing of his death. It's all over, he's dead. Was he scared? Just like all the people he had killed. Watch the video...

Val · « **Reply #32 on:** December 30, 2006, 05:10:26 am »

Very interesting reading, Pat. I was going to post it earlier, but didn't bother, for I am almost convinced it will only fall in deaf ears --- or, blind eyes!

Val
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Grasshopper · « **Reply #33 on:** December 30, 2006, 05:16:34 am »

Quote from: Val on December 30, 2006, 05:10:26 am

Very interesting reading, Pat. I was going to post it earlier, but didn't bother, for I am almost convinced it will only fall in deaf ears --- or, blind eyes!

Val
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That depends ;-)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A52241-2002Dec29&notFound=true

Val · « **Reply #34 on:** December 30, 2006, 05:19:34 am »

Rod,

You make me laugh! ""It is all over?"" I've got news for you: the Iraq mess has just started! Now the shit really has hit the fan... Wait some weeks and you will see more and more innocent lives being slaughtered like never before.
And all this for a totally senseless, illegal and cynical war that the U.S., Britain and a plethora of caniches --- well, what I am saying, the British are the first caniches of the Americans --- have decided to wage against the Iraqi people indirectly.
Yes, I say The Iraqi People because they are the ones suffering atrociously on their daily lives, while we, in the West, commemorate Christmas and exchange all kinds of ridiculous and exprensive presents. The West, in general, has no memory!

Val
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P.S. ""Caniche"" is a little dog (poodle)

Val · « **Reply #35 on:** December 30, 2006, 05:29:47 am »

Grass,

Another interesting reading! But, let's not forget that Europe also participated in all this charade...
The problem with the American attitude, in my opinion, is that they put a totally stupid, naif and petrol hungry cowboy in power! And things got out of hand for him and his clique!
Europe, I suppose, attempted to patch things up and repair what could be repaired. And the truth is: you cannot correct a mistake with another mistake even more important than the one you are trying to repair.

Val
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RapidRod · « **Reply #36 on:** December 30, 2006, 05:43:08 am »

Val, I was talking about Saddam, not the war going on in Iraq. The tyrant is dead. I hope this more explains it to you Val.

Val · « **Reply #37 on:** December 30, 2006, 05:49:16 am »

I thought so, Rod. However, keep in mind that Saddam was Iraq! Just like for so many people around the globe Bush is America... I have always been very careful as to not mix the mess this administration has caused with the invasion of Iraq, and, therefore, its messy foreign policy; and the American people in general.
Sometimes, though, this exercice becomes an arduous task, for the Americans have voted for him...t-w-i-c-e!

Val
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DanielMark · « **Reply #38 on:** December 30, 2006, 06:02:59 am »

I’m old enough to remember the Reagan years, when it was to the benefit of the United States to have Saddam Hussein as a friend, until it no longer suited them after their oil supplies in Kuwait were threatened in 1990.

This dangerous man was already removed from power and imprisoned, which is more than certain other *ahem* so-called leaders are today. Sorry, but I find no reason to rejoice about the killing a human being, especially one who was obviously mentally ill. There's no "justice" in that. There is only shame.

Daniel

RapidRod · « **Reply #39 on:** December 30, 2006, 06:04:26 am »

Yes, we did vote for him twice, as we have for other presidents who have spent two terms in office.

Grasshopper · « **Reply #40 on:** December 30, 2006, 06:24:34 am »

Is anyone out there aware of the fact that on december 23 2005, Mr. Van Aanraat(Dutch!) was sentenced to 15 years in jail here in Holand? He was convicted for "accomplice to genocide"; having shipped/traded 500 ton's of Thiodiglycol (main ingredient for manufacturing mustard gas) to Irak in 1986, wich was used by Sadam in 1988 on the Kurd's.

This was big news overhere; Mr Van Aanraat is the first dutchman ever to be convicted of such a crime, yet it dissapeared into oblivion. Ra ra ra...the Thiodiglycol was bought in the USA, and possibly our late Prince Bernhard might have had something to do with this.

It's a dirty world, a dirty game and all for €'s and power

RapidRod · « **Reply #41 on:** December 30, 2006, 06:49:05 am »

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061230/METRO/612300404

jack · « **Reply #42 on:** December 30, 2006, 07:13:26 am »

Saddams death is great news to anyone who yearns for freedom. Why does the left love dicktators like Saddam and Castro? I have no idea. Hopefully Saddams death sends a message to the other dicktators that this can happen to them, but I dont think it will.
Of course Europe is gonna be against this. Saddam was bribing the entire continent.
It sure would save a lot of time,money,and lives if the US congress would end the ban on assassinating foreign leaders. I am visualizing a scene out of the "godfather" when Michael has all the bad guys killed at the same time.

Dachshund · « **Reply #43 on:** December 30, 2006, 08:25:42 am »

Why do you people on the left love your dictators? Let us peruse the list of wonderful democracies the right has supported in the world's march to freedom.
Ferdinand and Emelda Marcos, Somoza, Suharto, The Shah of Iran, Pinochet, House of Saud, Kuwait Royal family, Qaddafi, Musharraf and any other dictator or military junta that has suited our fancy. Where was the outcry from the USA when Saddam was gassing his countrymen? It is hard to take the moral high ground when you are supplying the gas. I guess that middle eastern proverb is right...the enemy of my enemy is my friend. I wonder if we will remember that as we deal with the newest fundamental Islamic state in the region...Iraq?

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Val · « **Reply #44 on:** December 30, 2006, 09:19:42 am »

Saddam was bribing first and foremost the U.S.A.! Get real, Jack! Dach is spot on with his replies to you.

Val
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RapidRod · « **Reply #45 on:** December 30, 2006, 09:24:09 am »

Jack, France lost most of their contracts with Iraq when Saddam was removed from power. France didn't care about the Iraqi people, it was the money from Saddam they were worried about.

bear60 · « **Reply #46 on:** December 30, 2006, 12:41:32 pm »

If Sadam was hung we will never know because he was hung.
Er, hanged.

RapidRod · « **Reply #47 on:** December 30, 2006, 12:45:10 pm »

Miss Philicia · « **Reply #48 on:** December 30, 2006, 03:26:59 pm »

Quote from: Dachshund on December 30, 2006, 08:25:42 am

Where was the outcry from the USA when Saddam was gassing his countrymen?

Actually congressional Democrats had to force Reagan's State Dept. to issue a condemnation when Saddam gassed the Kurds, and it was tepid at best. At first they tried to blame it on the Iranians. What do you expect when Saint Ronnie sold them all the chemicals?

So, (again!), what WERE you saying Jack?

cole · « **Reply #49 on:** December 30, 2006, 03:49:23 pm »

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