Is this really child pornography?

[thunter34]

Yeah, I kinda did have to go all the way back to 2006...seein' as how you were kinda banned during much of the time in between.  And it wasn't hard to get the quotes - I just went to your old posts since I have been here and clicked off two of the first ones that caught my eye.  Took maybe 5 minutes. 

And yes, I've made allusions to meth, crack, x, you name it.  I also am not a parent.  I wasn't suggesting your women were smoking dope - just you, based on those posts (and those are just two random ones, btw.  I imagine I could find others without too much effort).  As for weed being "dope"...look:  I have long said that I have issues with the "war on drugs", but the bottom line is that if you can go to jail for it, it's dope.  Only a precious few are in situations and locations to get a pass on that one. 

Now, what I DID suggest of both you and "your woman", as you say, was the part about the health risk involved with the pregnancy.  You said in these forums that you were both positive, no?  You also posted that you were about a bee's dick away from getting your house swiped out from under you due to financial issues (unpaid child support, I believe...I can look it up also if you want.  It's in here somewhere, and as I said, I'm quick on such things).  Given that you had posted that you were in financial straits and on the edge of losing your home - and also given that you had made other references to getting public assistance - I don't think it was that great of a leap for me to assume that the kid was likely also going to be in need of it as well.  I also made the assumption that expensive sperm washing was out of the question, so the potential of a child born with HIV was a fair chance.  Again, I must have misread.

The original point I was trying to make was probably something similar to Dox's - that we shouldn't be so quick with throwing stones when most of us here are living in glass high rises...and given some of your traits and experiences, some people might take that type of hard-line view of you.  But I made it clumsily, I suppose, and at this point it has become a whole separate thing than what this thread is about, so I'm bowing out altogether.  k?

[skeebo1969]

  LOL...  Looks like I got a fan indeed.  Yep that was partly 2005 and the beginning of 2006.  I also never mentioned with sale of house down in Miami I was able to both buy one outright and pay off the child support debt that I owed because of being sick much of 2005 and unable to work.  Sheeesh we are understanding about this whole HIV process huh? 

 Timothy, Timothy, Timothy...  LOL...  all I can say is incredible.  Keep trying babe!


  Anywho...  I am respectfully bowing out of this little play you got going here.  I see now that I have to practice what I preach and be the bigger man  .  If you care to banter about this any further you can find my account on youtube and send a private invite.  Perhaps I can straighten out all the false assumptions you have made and you can put me on that pedestal of worship once again....

  I's feels so important this morning.... gave me goosebumps and shit~

[Ann]

Thunter, Skeebo, could you two please stop the hijack of this thread? I suggest you two put each other on ignore. I don't want to see either of you post in this thread again unless you're on topic.

In fact, if you two continue to carry on this tit-for-tat crap with each other in ANY thread, there's going to be time outs being handed out. Got it? Good. And yes, for the sake of clarity, this is an official warning. Your feud has no place in these forums.

I also made the assumption that expensive sperm washing was out of the question, so the potential of a child born with HIV was a fair chance.

Thunter, the fact is that now days, when an hiv positive woman is under medical supervision and taking ART, the chance of the baby being born positive is somewhere less than 2%. Hiv positive couples, as well as serodiscordant couples, have been having healthy, hiv negative children for years now, without the benefit of sperm-washing. I know I've just participated in the thread hijack myself, but I couldn't let your uninformed opinion of hiv positive people having children go unchallenged.

Ann

[thunter34]

And I can't let that go unchallenged, Ann.  My opinion isn't "uninformed"...it's just 2% that I wouldn't take.

I suppose you can hit the TO button if you feel you must, but it's hardly fair to throw something out like that and not allow me to respond to it in kind.

I already said I was bowing out of this in the post above...in case ya missed it.

[Miss Philicia]

If I am mistaken didn't I once hear you mention meth?  What about coke?  I think it was you and Philly who once glamorized that evilness along with an old member named Au... hell I can't remember his damn name, once again must be the "dope".  Then again this was back in 2006.  Dang brohamlet, that's 3 fucking years ago .

For the record (not that my name needs to be dragged into this cyber pissing match anyway) I have *never* glamorized the use of methamphetamine on this web board.  Ketamine, yes, but not Miss Tina.

[CaptCarl]

   May i hijack this post back to it's original subject? Sorry, I'll just take a moment. A number of years ago, my mother was a very happy and proud grandmother of a two year old grandson. One day when she had him over for a visit, he climbed into her car, and proceeded to remove all of his clothing, and stand onthe drivers seat pretending to drive. Mom thought this was cute, and snapped a few pictures for the family photo album. A few years later, my mother found herself hauled into court by an angry and very vindictive ex daughter-in-law. That nasty evil bitch (ex daughter in law, not mom) filed a complaint against my mom claiming that mom was a child pornographer due to these pictures. The utterly amazing part though, was that Donna, (the ex) didn't even have to show the pictures to the court. They took her word for it. Mom was denied any kind of contact with her grandkids. There was also the possibility of quite a few years in jail. All based on the words (without any proof whatsoever) of a hateful woman with an axe to grind. After five years, she finally found copies of the photos, and went to court with them, and after almost 6 months of deliberations, she was allowed to see her grandchildren again. But still, she missed out on five years of the lives of her grandchildren, time she will never be able to make up for. That's how fucked up things are in this country, being declared guilty without any proof, being denied access to your family, and being threatened with extensive jail time.
   I try not to be vindictive, but there is a certain ex sister-in-law whom I truly hope burns in Hell, if there is such a place.

CaptCarl

[denb45]

WOW carl....did this happen here in New Mexico? I was just wondering? I sure hope not 

[CaptCarl]

   No, it was in Massachusetts. Normally a decent enough state, but in this instance, sorely lacking in the common sense department. Another odd thing about there. My brother tried to get custody of the kids when their mother pulled one of her stunts, and gave up because even if he got custody of the kids, which was looking likely, he would still have to pay his ex-wife child support!!. He couldn't afford to both raise the kids and continue to pay her. Hows that for fucked up?

CaptCarl

[allopathicholistic]

I'm just breaking into the teaching profession and I see teachers, male and female, react with fear whenever a student comes up to hug them. In my first theories class on teaching, the topic of showing any type of physical affection was touched upon the very first day of class.
 

Did anyone see this film from a few years back http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91Z6EhoQLkw

[Winiroo]

I find it odd that a man would take pictures of kids he does not know at a beach. A little creepy. Maybe uncommon but I cant see it being criminal.

I ran around practically naked under the age of 5. Outside, inside where ever, half the time I was only wearing panties. Got plenty of pictures too. Its not pornography. Its pictures of me when I was a kid.
At the time I lived on a military base.  My being partially nude even in public was never a concern. With the overly politically correct society we have today I would never allow my grandchildren to run around in any measure of undress.  Hell you even have to be cautious in public with normal parenting.

Example (true story)
I was walking into the grocery store with my mother and my son who was maybe 3 or 4 years old. He was between us and we where each holding one of his hands. For his amusement we would count to three then lift him off the ground and say weeeeee.
A woman near the entrance of the store yelled at us and accused us of child abuse saying we where going to rip his arms off. <totally silly> and she was going to call CPS on us.  <child protective services>
I looked at her like the nut she was and told her go ahead. We will be inside shopping.

As for the photographer.  I don't know how they would prove intent.  If the photos where all made in public areas and where not posed it does not seem as if there could be a case.

My last suggestion. If you are ever compelled to take pictures of people you do not know.
Get permission first.

[marc11864]

All I'm saying is, this thread is EXACTLY why I don't allow people to remove my clothes in public...

That and the fact that I just turned 44. 

[David_CA]

All I'm saying is, this thread is EXACTLY why I don't allow people to remove my clothes in public...

That and the fact that I just turned 44. 

There are certain public places where it's ok for an adult to remove clothes in public.  A nude beach is one of 'em.  It's certainly an odd feeling the first time one does it!  I remember one beach we went to in FL back in the early '00's.  There were a few guys hidden in the dunes with binoculars checking out people walking by.  Sure, it was tacky, but I just figured it's probably no worse than me watching a hot guy walk by clothed and the thoughts I'd have about him!