Author Topic: Testing Question (Read 53071 times)

1spclka · « **on:** September 15, 2006, 03:00:55 pm »

In the first week of August I found out that my boyfriend of almost 2 years had been unfaithful for quite sometime. The last time we had unprotected sex was July 24th. Since then I have had two HIV test's one at 11 days and then again at 40 days, both which have been negative. What exactly is the window time frame for showing positive.. I am very worried about this as I haven't been feeling well at all for almost 7 weeks.. Just really worried.

RapidRod · « **Reply #1 on:** September 15, 2006, 03:14:02 pm »

Have your conclusive test done at 13 weeks past you last unprotected sex.

Matty the Damned · « **Reply #2 on:** September 15, 2006, 03:16:27 pm »

. . . . and read our Welcome Thread!!

MtD

Andy Velez · « **Reply #3 on:** September 15, 2006, 03:21:03 pm »

Just so you know, not feeling well for 7 weeks is NOT a sign of HIV infection. And in fact neither the presence nor the absence of symptoms is ever the way to know about your HIV status. Only getting that test will give you that answer.

You may not be thinking about it now, but if you have intercourse again with your (ex)bf or whomoever, make sure the guy is always wearing a condom. No exceptions.

Good luck with your test result and keep us posted.

Cheers,

1spclka · « **Reply #4 on:** September 15, 2006, 03:27:55 pm »

Thank you for your answers. Is a test at 6 weeks negative a pretty good sign though?

RapidRod · « **Reply #5 on:** September 15, 2006, 03:34:10 pm »

It's a good sign but not conclusive.

1spclka · « **Reply #6 on:** September 15, 2006, 03:37:28 pm »

Thank you again! My Dr. is having me take the test again at 9 weeks and then 12.. so I will let you guys know!

1spclka · « **Reply #7 on:** September 15, 2006, 04:05:58 pm »

One last question.. I am really scared about this.. I have had many sympotms for 7 weeks, and I know you shouldn't go off symptoms, but what are the chances of being positive after 6 weeks negative? I am just very scared. My 9 week test is next week.

RapidRod · « **Reply #8 on:** September 15, 2006, 06:54:58 pm »

It's possible, but it would be VERY RARE.

1spclka · « **Reply #9 on:** September 18, 2006, 11:26:08 am »

Thank you Rapid Rod for your advice.. If my test was at 39 days and not 42 is that a huge difference for the 6 week mark? I am going in on Wed for my 60 day test on Wed... I have been so sick to my stomach and stressed about this.. I have never been so scared in my life.

Ann · « **Reply #10 on:** September 18, 2006, 11:42:10 am »

sp,

The vast majority of people who have actually been infected will seroconvert and test positive by six weeks, with the average time to seroconversion being only 22 days. It really is rather unlikely that your 39 day negative will change.

You don't mention whether or not your partner has tested positive himself. Just being unfaithful does not make one hiv positive - he might use condoms when he plays away and either way, he might yet be negative himself. You can't pass on what you don't have.

It sounds like you have been devastated by the news of your partner's unfaithfulness and the stress this has caused you could very well be causing you to feel ill. Symptoms or the lack of symptoms mean absolutely nothing when it comes to hiv - so try to relax and see if you don't start feeling better after a few days.

I'm fully expecting you to continue to test negative.

Ann

1spclka · « **Reply #11 on:** September 18, 2006, 11:48:53 am »

Hi Ann,

You are truly a blessing right now.. I am completely devastated by all this, and with your recent post I feel that I can settle down and try to relax. Like i mentioned before my next text is Wed and if all goes well they will do a final test on Oct 18th.. I am so glad I found this site, you are wonderful..

1spclka · « **Reply #12 on:** September 18, 2006, 11:50:51 am »

PS- I have no idea if he has tested. He told me that he sometimes used condoms and sometimes not.. and that he didn't need to be tested.. I have never in my life been so scared, I am only 28 and trusted my life with someone else, that will never been done again. Really, I can't thank you enough for the encouragement.. I really needed it..

Andy Velez · « **Reply #13 on:** September 18, 2006, 12:00:51 pm »

Glad you have found the exchanges here to be helpful.

Happily, I expect you to continue to test negative with that negative you had at very close to 6 weeks. It's very uncommon to test positive after that unless there are some special circumstances such as IV drug use or a severely depleted immune system due to cancer treatment or such.

I don't know if you will be back with your bf or not. But please remember that no matter whom you are with you are the one who's responsible for your health. That means the best policy is to always insist on the guy wearing a condom for intercourse no matter how great he looks or how terrific a guy or whatever. Condoms are a must. Period.

Good luck on your test and keep us posted.

Cheers,

1spclka · « **Reply #14 on:** September 18, 2006, 12:08:34 pm »

Hi Andy,

I am a clean and healthy 28 y/o women who has just had her whole world turned upside down. With all your positive encouragement my day is already getting better.. And no we are not getting back together, I already moved out.. Really I can't thank you guys enough.. this website is such a wealth of knowledge. You are a wonderful group of people, and believe me I am much more educated about this now..

Ann · « **Reply #15 on:** September 18, 2006, 12:53:03 pm »

sp,

I'm not sure what you mean by "clean" and healthy. I'm clean too - I just had a shower this morning. But I'm also hiv positive. Using clean to describe personal attributes (unless you mean bathing habits) is to imply that others are "dirty". I hope you get my drift?

If you haven't already, please make sure you have been screened for all the other STIs out there - all of them are MUCH more easily transmitted than hiv. Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

Please also check out the condom and lube links in my signature line and check out the links on the left hand side of either ot those pages for information on the female condom. They're great - they put the control over condom use into your hands.

Hang in there. You have every chance of continuing with negative test results.

Ann

PS - please tell your ex that there are far more heterosexuals in the world living with hiv than there are otherwise. Too many straight men think they don't have to worry about hiv and don't need testing. They're wrong, and plenty of them are dead wrong.

1spclka · « **Reply #16 on:** September 18, 2006, 01:22:52 pm »

I am so sorry I hope I didn't offend you.. I meant that I had been screened for everything else and all of those were ok.. Please accept my apology. I would never mean to imply anything bad about anyone..

I will check out those links to.

Really your help has done wonders for me.. I have been a basket base for almost 7 full weeks now.. And even though I have all this positive encourgement I am still sick to my stomach about my Wed test.

Ann · « **Reply #17 on:** September 18, 2006, 02:29:12 pm »

sp,

I understand.

But sitting there at your computer for hours, reading this site, is not going to do your nerves any good. Turn your computer off, take a few deep breaths and go out and get some fresh air and exercise. Keep putting hiv information into your brain and you will not be able to think about anything else.

All you need to know right now is that you are more than likely to continue testing negative. The rest is all just extra, anxiety producing, unnecessary distraction. Turn the computer off.

Ann

1spclka · « **Reply #18 on:** September 18, 2006, 02:32:27 pm »

WILL DO!!!! Thank you !! Have a great day!!! Love, K

godblessu · « **Reply #19 on:** September 18, 2006, 05:29:45 pm »

Hi everybody I as rape on may4th this year , I have took every test of hiv out there from elisa and western bllot at my 12 weeks and took Hiv Rna at 8 week's and again at 13 weeks also took hiv nucleic acid test was neg at 13 weeks and 17 weeks . at 22 weeks also took elisa and hiv nucleic acid test was neg , I'm kind of scared am I out of the window thanks peace

godblessu · « **Reply #20 on:** September 18, 2006, 05:31:22 pm »

Quote from: RapidRod on September 15, 2006, 06:54:58 pm

It's possible, but it would be VERY RARE.

Hi i took hiv elisa test and hiv nucleic acid test at 13 weeks and again at 17 weeks am I out of the window period thanks

Ann · « **Reply #21 on:** September 18, 2006, 06:31:42 pm »

bless,

You need to start your own thread. Posting questions in someone else's thread is considered thread hijacking.

Please read through the Welcome Thread, take note of our Posting Guidelines and follow the links to the Lessons.

Thank you for your cooperation.

Ann

1spclka · « **Reply #22 on:** September 20, 2006, 11:16:40 am »

Hi everyone, today is my 58 day test and I am so scared to take it. I know you all have said that I have a really good chance of it still being negative, but I have this gut feeling that won't go away that is saying otherwise. I did calm down the last few days, but woke up today in a panic.. I still have a white tongue and I have read that's a sign of HIV.. Please keep me in your thoughts today, I showed know my results by Friday or Monday at the latest.

Andy Velez · « **Reply #23 on:** September 20, 2006, 12:06:40 pm »

Fortunately feelings aren't facts so white tongue or no, the only "sign" that is to be believed about HIV status is a test. Happily you have done that and now you have a few days to wait for your result.

If your tongue is troubing you then discuss it with your doctor. It is not in any way an HIV-specific occurence.

Stay productively busy and the waiting time will pass more quickly than you may imagine at this moment.

Good luck.

Cheers,

1spclka · « **Reply #24 on:** September 20, 2006, 12:12:51 pm »

Thank you Andy.. This site has helped me out more than you can ever imagine. And really I thank you for the education on this subject too.. I will let you guys know my results when I get them.. Thank you again from the bottom of my heart.. this has truly been a difficult time and writing here has made such a huge impact.

Andy Velez · « **Reply #25 on:** September 20, 2006, 12:22:01 pm »

Good. I'm glad you found this site to be of help to you. That's why we are here.

Cheers,

1spclka · « **Reply #26 on:** September 21, 2006, 11:58:36 am »

Ok, this has to be the longest waiting period ever!! I wasn't even this nervous or scared the first two times I took this. Why am I so afraid its going to change, even after you guys have explained the good chances it won't? I am telling you.. for those of you that read this post ALWAYS USE A CONDOM... the fear and guilt will eat at you for not using one..

1spclka · « **Reply #27 on:** September 22, 2006, 04:13:18 pm »

Anna, is there really a good chance that my test will remain positive... I have tried to keep myself busy and worry so much.. but I am on the verge of a breakdown.. I have been through so much and I am just so stressed about this especially with the test not being at six weeks and just shy of it.

1spclka · « **Reply #28 on:** September 22, 2006, 04:13:40 pm »

oop, sorry I meant to type Ann...

Ann · « **Reply #29 on:** September 22, 2006, 04:19:27 pm »

Sp,

You are more than likely to continue testing NEGATIVE.

Ann

1spclka · « **Reply #30 on:** September 22, 2006, 04:29:35 pm »

Ann,

Thank you for the encourgement.. I needed that today.. My results aren't back yet and have to wait now until Mon or Tues..

1spclka · « **Reply #31 on:** September 22, 2006, 05:53:02 pm »

The main reason for me being so concerned is about 10 days after my last unprotected sex with my Ex-Boyfriend, my legs and arms ached for almost a week, and in that time frame my tongue became white, I still have lose/soft stool, I ran a low-grade fever during the day of 99.2-99.5, but it always went to normal at night for almost 3 weeks and was completely exhausted and I had/have appetite.. This all lasted 6 weeks, however, I still have a white tongue (there isn't a coat on it, just white-ish) and my stool hasn't been the same.. That's why this test at less than 6 weeks is scaring me now.. and waiting for this new result is heartbreaking..

1spclka · « **Reply #32 on:** September 22, 2006, 06:12:25 pm »

I just got my 60 day results.. and they were NEGATIVE!!!! Thank you Ann and Andy for all your support.. my 3 month confirming test is October 18th, so I will up date you guys then !!!!

1spclka · « **Reply #33 on:** September 27, 2006, 02:22:52 pm »

My next test is going to be at 86 days past exposure, is this far enough for the conclusive testing?? And is my 58 day test still a good indication of my negative status??? Still worried...

Andy Velez · « **Reply #34 on:** September 27, 2006, 03:18:09 pm »

Yes, the 86 days will be conclusive. And I expect you to test negative again.

Get busy and the remaining waiting time will pass more quickly than you can imagine right now.

1spclka · « **Reply #35 on:** September 27, 2006, 04:14:04 pm »

Andy or Ann, what are the chances of my test turning positive after my 58 day test??? Is it common for people to show positive in the 8-12 week mark?

Ann · « **Reply #36 on:** September 27, 2006, 05:16:10 pm »

sp,

You've already been told that most people who have actually been infected will test positive by SIX weeks. Go read your thread again. Our answers are not going to change.

It's highly unlikely that your test results will change. You're more likely to win a ten million dollar prize in the lottery with a ticket you found lying in the gutter. OK?

Now get off the internet and go do something interesting.

Ann

1spclka · « **Reply #37 on:** September 27, 2006, 05:34:11 pm »

Ok, thank you for all your words and encourgement.. I will let you know about my 86 day test next month.. take care, K

1spclka · « **Reply #38 on:** October 03, 2006, 11:08:45 am »

Ok guys, I went to my Dr. yesterday for a follow-up appt.. and he advised me that I should be prepared for my next test to be positive

.. He said that people get white tongue during ARS, and most of the symptoms I complained about could have been ARS... I am so scared now .... why would he tell me all of this.. I thought I was pretty ok with my 8 week test.. He wants me to take another test tomorrow that would be 10 weeks and then again at 12... PLease help I am so beside myself right now.

Ann · « **Reply #39 on:** October 03, 2006, 12:24:46 pm »

1,

I'm going to be blunt. Your doctor is ignorant when it comes to hiv. A white tongue is no more a sign of primary hiv infection than a sudden desire to dye your hair purple. Furthermore, the vast majority of people who have actually been infected will seroconvert and test positive by six weeks. Your eight week negative is not likely to change.

The only thing that might want to change is your doctor. If he can'b be bothered to keep up to date on hiv, goodness knows what else he gets wrong. Find a new doc.

Ann

1spclka · « **Reply #40 on:** October 03, 2006, 12:30:25 pm »

Ann, if my test results come back negative at 10 weeks do I need to take it again... I almost passed out when he told me that.. I was really feeling good about my 8 week negative.. He has totally scared me

1spclka · « **Reply #41 on:** October 03, 2006, 01:48:44 pm »

I am so scared and freaking out right now... How can that be possible... I have to take another one tomorrow, and wait to see if my doctor is right or not.. and then put myself through this torture again.. Oh yeah, he told me that most be people show positive between 6-8 weeks, and because mine was 8 weeks and two days that is why he is expecting it to be positive.. especially because of my white tongue and my irregular bowls.. well heck he now has given me diaherra..

Ann · « **Reply #42 on:** October 03, 2006, 02:30:08 pm »

1,

You really don't need that ten week test, but now that your doctor has scared the brown stuff out of you, I suppose it's somewhat unavoidable. We do stick by the three month conclusive rule here, so you have two more negative results to look forward to.

You might want to tell your doctor to get up to speed with the most recent hiv diagnosis practice, because he's living in the dark ages where that is concerned and it's just not good enough. White tongue and irregular bowels are not diagnostic indicators. Why not print this thread out and take it with you when you see him again? There is also a printable version of both the lessons linked to in the Welcome thread. This guy seriously needs to be brought, kicking and screaming if need be, into the 21st century.

Ann

1spclka · « **Reply #43 on:** October 03, 2006, 02:47:36 pm »

Ann,

Thank you for all your support. I will print this thread out and show it to him. I really am going to try and avoid tomorrow's test, and see if I can't just do the 86 day test. I am so sorry to have bombarded you with all these fears, questions and my crazy worries.. This is not something to take lightly and I have 100% learned my lesson.. I will never again have sex without a condom...unless I am married, and even then you really don't know.. I will update you all upon my reciept of my results either Friday afternoon or Monday.. Thank you again.. and God Bless.

1spclka · « **Reply #44 on:** October 03, 2006, 06:13:20 pm »

Well, my doctor changed my appt to today and I took my thread with me. He told me that the information was wrong, and that most people won't show positive until after 8 weeks. And that I probably didn't seroconvert s/p? until later.. I am so confused now that I don't know what to think... I told him that I wanted to wait until the 18th to take my 86 day test and he told me no, that I needed to do it now so we can catch it early... I am on the verge of a mental breakdown..

Ann · « **Reply #45 on:** October 04, 2006, 05:16:52 am »

1,

I hope that when your doctor's comments are proven to be nothing more than scare-mongering, you will find yourself a new one.

I'm still expecting you to continue testing negative.

Ann

1spclka · « **Reply #46 on:** October 04, 2006, 10:51:05 am »

Thanks Ann, I take the test at noon today.. and will get the results back hopefully late Friday or Monday... I cried myself to sleep last night thinking about all of this.. I keep holding on to what you, Andy and Rapid Rod have said.. and praying that this will all work out.. thank you again for your support.. this forum and website is a wonderful place to talk, and most definetly educating. I will advise you guys of my results when I get them..

1spclka · « **Reply #47 on:** October 04, 2006, 11:08:39 am »

Oh yeah, and while I was at the Dr. yesterday he diagnosed my tongue as "Hairy Tongue" ... he said that was one of the first signs of HIV and only peopl HIV+ get this disease.. I was up all night scared to death.. I am so scared ... I started think about when all this started and all my "symptoms" 6 days after we had unprotected sex, my arms and legs ached for almost a week, I had no appetite, totally exhausted, loose/soft stool, and my tongue and a fever anywhere from 99.2-99.5.. However, at the same time my Dr. had taken me of the birth control pill after being on it 10 years, maybe part of that was hormones as I would cry at a drop of a dime.. so he wanted to treat me for depression, he had me on Celexa, Trazadone and Prozac.. these symptoms all started July 30 and continued until early September... The last few days I have had the body aches back.. I am so sick to my stomach.. If my 10 week is negative.. is there a good chance my 86 day test will be negative too??

Ann · « **Reply #48 on:** October 04, 2006, 01:18:34 pm »

1,

My jaw drops when I read the things your doctor says to you. If I were you, I'd get another doctor asap. I assume what he meant by "hairy tounge" is Oral Hairy Leukoplakia and it cannot be diagnosed just by looking at it - you need a biopsy for a definite diagnosis. It really sounds to me like he is trying to frighten the life out of you. In all honesty, it sounds to me like he doesn't approve of you having a sex life.

You tested negative at over eight weeks. I seriously cannot see that changing. If this doctor refuses to educate himself on hiv, then who knows what else he's ignorant of. Find a new doctor. Remember, you pay him and he's YOUR employee.

Ann

1spclka · « **Reply #49 on:** October 04, 2006, 01:31:24 pm »

Nope, just hairy tongue.. I don't have any lessions or white spots on my tongue, it just as a slight film on it. I called and got a referral to a specialist. I am not sure why he is trying to scare me to death, but he is doing a rather good job at it. Yes, my last test was at 58 days ( 8 weeks and 2 days).. Today's test will be 10 weeks and 2 days past my last sexual encouter.. I contacted another Dr. in my group and he says that the chance of me being have HIV with three negative tests in the last few months is very low. And that he expects this test to be negative too! Just one last time for reassurance if this 10 week test is negative.. its a very good chance the next one will be negative also.. and if so the 86 days is enough time to be conclusive?

Ann · « **Reply #50 on:** October 04, 2006, 02:09:14 pm »

1,

Yes, you have more than an excellent chance of testing negative on both your ten week and your 86 day tests. Your 86 day test will be conclusive and don't let that quack tell you otherwise.

I seriously hope you get a new doctor. Hairy tongue has nothing whatsoever to do with hiv. It can be caused by antibiotics and/or smoking.

Ann

1spclka · « **Reply #51 on:** October 04, 2006, 02:15:42 pm »

Ann,

Thank you for all your advice and reassurance.. To know that a good majority of you have faith that I will test negative again both times is more than encouraging.. and since you have done such extensive research and live it I put good faith in it. I will advise of my ten weeks results soon.

Ps- I am a smoker who drinks more than a couple of cups a coffee a day! Plus, I have serious dry mouth from all the meds I was on and stress. Keep your fingers crossed~

1spclka · « **Reply #52 on:** October 04, 2006, 02:28:35 pm »

PPS- I am off this computer until I get my results or I am going to make myself crazy!! Thank you all for the encourgement!!! GOD BLESS YOU ALL!

1spclka · « **Reply #53 on:** October 04, 2006, 02:49:50 pm »

Hey there, I just got an email from the health educator at my doctor's office and this what I was told..

Research shows that most people (90-96%) will produce antibodies to HIV
(what the HIV test is looking for) within two to twelve weeks after
infection. Some people will not produce antibodies until 6 months after
exposure. So, unless you have had any risk exposure (i.e. unprotected
sex)
within the last 12 weeks, at 12 weeks your negative test would be about
90-96% indicative that you are HIV negative. A six month test would be
recommended just to be sure.

They are telling me I need to do the 6 month test also!

Ann · « **Reply #54 on:** October 04, 2006, 02:52:10 pm »

1,

I give up. Listen to who you want to. Be sure and let us know when you keep getting negative test results.

Ann

1spclka · « **Reply #55 on:** October 04, 2006, 04:04:52 pm »

I totally believe you guys.. my dr. had them send me that.. I thank you tons.. and I just got back from my test and will advise you.. I have always believed and valued your advice, and I realize my Dr. is crazy

1spclka · « **Reply #56 on:** October 05, 2006, 12:45:59 pm »

So I cried myself to sleep last night again after all the things my dr. has said to me in the last two days. I thought waiting for my last test was crazy, this one has me totally beside myself. And to think I have to do this again in exactly 14 days... Ann, I took your advice and have a new doctor now, and he is telling me that with all my negative tests that he feels I will be just fine. I tolh him about all the things you guys advised me of and he agreed. I couldn't believe it this morning when the health eductor from my medical group called me this morning and tried to tell me I would test positive also. Why are these people in the dark ages?? This is a huge medical group here in CA.

My best friend went on to Medhelp.org and Dr. HHH.. told her that my 8 week test proved I didn't have HIV and that I didn't need a 13 week test.. However, I listening to you guys.. and I am taking that 86 day test... I can't thank you all enough.. really, especially for listening to all this junk from my dr.

Ann · « **Reply #57 on:** October 05, 2006, 01:24:21 pm »

1,

I think the real question here is why are these people trying to scare the life out of you. It sounds like their actions are beginning to border on harassment. If they ring you again, threaten them with a malpractice suit (that's exactly what you're dealing with here) and maybe that will get them off your back.

I'm glad to hear you now have a sensible doctor who isn't letting a moral agenda run his practice. Let us know when you get that negative confirmation. I'm fully expecting that is what you'll get and you should too.

Ann

1spclka · « **Reply #58 on:** October 05, 2006, 01:51:00 pm »

I have no idea actually, and let me tell you.. this has been probably the most difficult rollercoaster ride of my life so far.. and should they call again I will advise them of what you told me ( lol I work for an attorney

) I have no calmed down and am also expecting two more negative results.. and once that is all said I will move on with my life.. Really, if it weren't for you guys I probably would have had a mental breakdown by now.. thank you for the bottom of my heart. Like I said before I should know my results by late tomorrow afternoon or Monday.. Keep you fingers crossed.. god bless.. you all

1spclka · « **Reply #59 on:** October 05, 2006, 07:28:19 pm »

Is Oral Hairy leukoplakia really a sign of ARS and early HIV infection??? I am really concerned now with this "hairy tongue" I am going to see a specialist on Oct 12th, because of my "white tongue"... I am starting to get concerned now that my test just might might come back positive.. I think my fear and everything I have been told the last few day is starting to wear on me..

Ann · « **Reply #60 on:** October 05, 2006, 07:44:10 pm »

1,

You seriously need to turn your computer off and go do something worthwhile. All you're doing at this point is feeding your fears.

Your test results are not going to change. You really only need further testing at this point as a formality.

You don't even know if your ex is hiv positive. You are only assuming. Chances are he isn't.

Forget everything that first doctor told you. To be blunt, he's totally ignorant where hiv is concerned and should not be allowed to even speak of it until he's brought up to scratch. However, I have a feeling this is more to do with a moral agenda he has. It sounds like he's trying to frighten you into abstinence.

Ann

1spclka · « **Reply #61 on:** October 06, 2006, 10:56:43 am »

NEGATIVE 72 day test (10 Weeks, 2 days) One down, one more to go... I will let you all know of my conclusive test results around 10/20.. have a great weekend! And God Bless you all!

Andy Velez · « **Reply #62 on:** October 06, 2006, 12:34:56 pm »

Well done! Congrats. You should have a happier weekend now.

Cheers,

1spclka · « **Reply #63 on:** October 12, 2006, 12:04:20 pm »

So I am starting to think that the dr's in my medical group are crazy.. I am seeing a specialist for my tongue, which by the way has gotten better over the last week since my nerves where calmed down. However, I got a call from my dr's office yesterday asking me to come in for a visit.. I went in and they proceeded to explain to me that they believe I was late seroconverting, and that this 86 day test has a high potential of being positive, and if not, I need to retest every month until 6 months past my last possible exposure.. because they believe I am positive.. Ok, have they lost their minds.. I had negative test's at 3 weeks, 6, weeks, 8 weeks, 10 weeks.. and my 86 day test will be next Wednesday.. I called them this morning and told the new Dr. everything Ann had told me, and he suggested I listen to a Dr. and not someone on the internet.. Dude.. these people are crazy.. I finally get calmed down and they are jacken with me.. I am not the only one, another girl in there was in for the same thing... Reconfirming that my 86 day test will be conclusive, correct?

Ann · « **Reply #64 on:** October 12, 2006, 12:33:44 pm »

1,

Yes, your 86 day test will be conclusive.

If I were you I would find a new doctor/group practice. I'd also report these buggers for their ignorance and pushing moral agendas. Sheesh. It beggars belief in this day and age. My god, it's almost as though they want you to test positive!

Ann

1spclka · « **Reply #65 on:** October 12, 2006, 12:41:55 pm »

Ann,

Thank you for confirming nmy question... I was speaking to my family last night about changes insurances and groups... the poor girl at the Dr's office looked terrified.. Well, I get my 86 day test done on the 18th.. and should be getting back to you all with the results around the 20th or 23rd.. Keep your fingers crossed it stays negative... thank you again, all of you for your support!!! K

1spclka · « **Reply #66 on:** October 12, 2006, 12:59:07 pm »

Ann ~ one more time for reassurance... you really don't for see my negative test at 72 days changing at 86?? I know, I know.. I shouldn't listen to them.. but just wanting a little reassurance..

1spclka · « **Reply #67 on:** October 12, 2006, 01:24:21 pm »

One last question.. I forgot to ask.. here in the US they say 13 weeks.. my test will be 12 weeks and 2 days.. should I wait until the following week?? Or just go on with the 86 days that you said ...

Ann · « **Reply #68 on:** October 12, 2006, 03:17:18 pm »

1,

Basically, the window period is three months. You can look at a three month period in two ways. One, that it is twelve weeks. The other, three months is a quarter of a year. A year has 52 weeks, so three months is thirteen weeks. It's called splitting hairs. The window period is twelve weeks in the UK and most of Europe, using the same tests as they do in the States. Your 86 day test will be conclusive. If it makes you feel better, wait for the thirteen week mark, but it makes no difference.

I do not expect your result to change.

Ann

Edited to correct a typo. Thanks Rodney!

RapidRod · « **Reply #69 on:** October 12, 2006, 04:20:31 pm »

Ann, in the US 52, weeks are in a year.

1spclka · « **Reply #70 on:** October 12, 2006, 04:31:53 pm »

I am going to change it for the following week.. that way it will be 13 weeks.. actually a little past.. that way I feel totally comfortable with the results.. thank you all for your imput.

1spclka · « **Reply #71 on:** October 13, 2006, 01:46:57 pm »

Hi everyone, I went and saw the specialist yesterday about my tongue and he told me I was having dry mouth from Stress and Anxiety. Imagine that.. I also changed my test to the 24th, which will make it 92 days since my possible exposure. Ann, I really want to thank you for all your support and understanding through this rough time. You have been great and a wealth of information. I will let you know of my results as soon as I get them.. I pray that they don't change as I have started dating someone that has taught me what real love is all about !! God Bless you all.. and I pray for you all the time..

Brn_eyed_girl_2006 · « **Reply #72 on:** October 13, 2006, 02:50:44 pm »

Hello ~ in the middle of July I had unprotected anal sex with a guy I met through a friend, and am unaware of his HIV status... So far I have had tests done at 3, 6, and 10 weeks with my 13 week coming up here pretty directly. I am confused over the window period and time for testing. I have read that 13 weeks is conclusive, however, I was told by my medical provider that should my test continue to be negative I still have to return for a 6 month test. Is this correct? Can you please verify. Any assistance would be great.

PS- this was my first anal experience and sex without a condom.

RapidRod · « **Reply #73 on:** October 13, 2006, 02:57:04 pm »

Quote from: Brn_eyed_girl_2006 on October 13, 2006, 02:50:44 pm

Hello ~ in the middle of July I had unprotected anal sex with a guy I met through a friend, and am unaware of his HIV status... So far I have had tests done at 3, 6, and 10 weeks with my 13 week coming up here pretty directly. I am confused over the window period and time for testing. I have read that 13 weeks is conclusive, however, I was told by my medical provider that should my test continue to be negative I still have to return for a 6 month test. Is this correct? Can you please verify. Any assistance would be great.

PS- this was my first anal experience and sex without a condom.

Do you remember posting the following:

Hi Dr:

On July 24, 2006, I had unprotected sex with my boyfriend of 2 years both vaginally and anal. A few days later he left me and told me he had never been faithful to me...He said that he didn't always use protection. About a week later I started running a fever of 99.2-99.5, was extremley tired, soft lose stool and my tongue turned white. I was so afraid I got HIV so I got tested at 10 days negative, 39 days negative and 58 days negative. After my 58 day test (8 weeks) I calmed down and wasn't so stressed out. However, I still have a white, dry tongue and feel like my mouth is disgusting. I am going to get my 86 day test on October 18.. Is there a good chance I am going to test positive with my tongue being white? Its not a coating or thrush but a white film that won't go away.. .. Please help I am scared to death, I am only 28 and trusted this person with my life... HELP

You should have known some of us read both forums. You do not need to test further than your 13 weeks.

Brn_eyed_girl_2006 · « **Reply #74 on:** October 13, 2006, 03:00:57 pm »

I am sorry, I was just trying to get my friend to calm down. I pirated her name to see if I could show her what you guys said, and that it would be the same. Just trying to help her out. She is really worried and I thought that if I asked and got an answer she would settle down. Truly sorry.

Ann · « **Reply #75 on:** October 13, 2006, 03:42:30 pm »

1,

Make sure your new boyfriend is also tested before you even think about dispensing with the condoms. Make sure you're both being monogamous too!

I'm sure you'll be reporting another negative result.

Ann

Brn_eyed_girl_2006 · « **Reply #76 on:** October 13, 2006, 03:57:23 pm »

I have one last question in hopes that I can help my friend ease her fears. With all those negative tests she should expect to get a negative one at 13 weeks, correct? Her last one being at a little over 10 weeks. I have been trying to calm her down since this all started, however, she seems to get conflicting stories on time frames. I don't know if she has posted her or not, a mutual friend of ours did and it really helped her out. I want to be able to say I spoke with someone that is very knowlegeable in this area, and see if that should help.

Ann · « **Reply #77 on:** October 13, 2006, 04:01:25 pm »

Brn,

Can I ask why you are using different usernames while posting to our forums? Thus far, you have also used 1spclka

Please realize that this kind of activity is disrespectful of other forum members, as well as our moderators. People spend a considerable amount of time helping others in these forums. Using multiple accounts is at the very least annoying, if not deceiving and disrespectful of others. It is also against our Terms of Membership which you agreed to when you became a member. This information is also contained within the Welcome Thread, which you should have read by now. So really, you have no excuse.

You must realize that the answers won't change, no matter how many names you post under.

I would appreciate a reply to this message, and I hope you will commit to using just one account - preferably your original one. If not, you will be banned from further access to the forums.

I can't believe you'd do this after all the time I've spent trying to help you. I'm finished with you. Good luck with the crazy, as Jonathan used to say.

Ann

Brn_eyed_girl_2006 · « **Reply #78 on:** October 13, 2006, 04:06:34 pm »

Ann, I am sorry to confuse you. I really am 1SPCLKA's best friend, my name is Angie. I was with her when she used the other name in another wesite to ask her questions. I had no idea that she had looked at this site, as she never told me. Please accept my deepest apologies. She had nothing to do with this as I was only trying to help. If you have been working with her, please continue as I don't want to upset her any further. She has started dating someone new, and with that I hoped her fears would subside, however, they have not. Please continue to help her, as I cant. I am sitting at work now having heart attack because I was only trying to help her.

Ann · « **Reply #79 on:** October 13, 2006, 04:11:06 pm »

1,

No, you're sitting where ever you are having a heart attack because you've been found out. Funny how your work IP and your "friend's" IP is the exact same number.

I'm going to disable your second account and merge your threads. Create a third account and be banned permanently.

It's bad enough you violated the Terms of Membership, but then to lie about it on top of it all, well, I'm done with you.

Ann

1spclka · « **Reply #80 on:** October 13, 2006, 04:14:44 pm »

I am sorry, and ashamed.. I have never been so scared in my life and I betrayed your trust, I feel awful.. Really I do.. I will only post my next results. And from the heart I am sorry.. I will advise in the next few weeks.. please accept my apologies. You have done a lot for me, and I was wrong.

1spclka · « **Reply #81 on:** October 20, 2006, 11:27:35 am »

I have my 13 week test on Tuesday, and I was doing so well until I read Mircle Jane's post and I about threw up.. I was really starting to calm my fears until I read that... I am going to keep re-reading my thread and convince myself that I have every chance of remaining negative despite what my Doctor's have told me. I am going to see a therpist next week as this whole situation has taken over my life. My family and friends are at a loss of words trying to reassure me that it will be ok... I have almost lost my job, and have a hard time sleeping at night...as I am extremely depressed over this.. and bottom line is I don't even know if he has it.. Once again I am sorry for creating another name, and then lying about it.. This whole thing has me in a place that I don't even know how to get out of.. and the part that is making it worst is I read that anal sex is the easiest way to obtain HIV and the last time we had sex he convinced me to do it.. never in my life have I done that.. and I knew better.. so that is partly why I am a nervous wreck.. With being sick in August, and all my "symptoms" I have totally convinced myself that I have it.. and I know your not therapists.. just advisor's on my risk.. so once again Ann, I am sorry for betraying your trust.. I will hopefully report a negative result sometime next week. Until may God be with you all.

Andy Velez · « **Reply #82 on:** October 20, 2006, 11:33:23 am »

Your fears notwithstanding, I expect you to get a negative on Tuesday.

Stay busy until then. And do the good deep and slow breathing I recommend when feeling tension. Both things really help. No kidding.

Cheers,

1spclka · « **Reply #83 on:** October 21, 2006, 06:19:27 pm »

Ok I know I said I wouldn't post until my results, but I just got back from my HIV counseling which you have to have prior to testing.. and the lady told me that I was most certainly going to test positive this time.. and if its negative I have to test every month until 6 months out... she told me that only people with HIV have white tongues and that I need to stop kidding myself that I am negative... I have thrown up 6 times since I have gotten back from my appointment.... She told me that my test at 10 + weeks is not reliable and that I need to prepare myself to live a life with HIV.. Please, please why are they doing this to me... I told them all the info u have given me and they said its all wrong and that people do test positive after 3 months... and that I am going to be one of them.. help... I am so scared now about tuesday.l

1spclka · « **Reply #84 on:** October 21, 2006, 06:22:36 pm »

One more thing, I haven't had any sexual relationships since July 24th.. because I am so scared... God I dont understand why they are saying these things..

sad days · « **Reply #85 on:** October 22, 2006, 03:17:48 am »

Hi there: I promised I wouldn't post anything until after my life insurance testing, but this is worth it. I know this is thread hijacking, but c'mon wtf is going on here? I PM'd you but you didn't respond. That's the only reason I'm posting on your thread. I apologise to all the moderators for the hijacking, but this is warranted. If you read threads from those who had absolutely NO RISK, NADA, NOTHING risk of infection, you'll find many complaining of a white coated tongue, or thrush, or candida, or hairy white leukopenia, whatever! I mean these people had absolutely NO risk of HIV infection whatsoever! I think that when you become completely stressed out, your body produces enzymes that cause symptoms like this. I have tested 11 times out to almost a year past POSSIBLE exposure and I have a white coated tongue. It's stress. I don't have HIV, neither do you. All I'm waiting for is the piece of paper from the Life Insurance company with me and my wife's "non-reactive" test result on it to end all this. I already know I'm fine, I just need the evidence. Like you, I have no idea if my partner has HIV. Think about it! The chances are slim to none that yours or mine are infected in the first place, let alone us being infected on the one time exposure, let alone us being late seroconverters. There are so many reasons to have a white tongue, and stress is one of them! Are you stressed? YES YOU ARE!!!!! I will have the results of my insurance stuff in a few days and I will certainly post the findings, no matter what they are. I have met with several different HIV nurses while taking my unnecessary tests, and NONE OF THEM have EVER experienced seroconversion on any of their patience after a 3 month negative result. Again, sorry for the thread hijacking, but I feel your pain and I hope you can find comfort in my words. Take care, John

Ann · « **Reply #86 on:** October 22, 2006, 07:10:21 am »

John,

I don't believe a word 1 says, so don't get your knickers into a twist trying to tell her anything. She doesn't listen. I don't for a minute believe that anyone is telling her that only people with hiv get white tongues. She might well have a white tongue herself, but there's no way any health care provider is saying what she claims.

I appreciate that you have good intentions John, but please don't hijack threads. Thanks.

Ann

1spclka · « **Reply #87 on:** October 26, 2006, 04:05:57 pm »

Hi there... NEGATIVE at 92 days.. I want to thank everyone here from the bottom of my heart.. Andy, Ann and Rapid Rod I know I betrayed people's trust, and I am sincerely sorry for that.. I never meant to do that.. I was just so scared and afraid.. Ann, I want to personally thank you for all of your help, you were truly a blessing.. when I went to the Dr. I gave him this thread and showed him it.. I wanted him to know how scared and paranoid they had made me... So with my white tongue and all, I am taking my CONCLUSIVE test, even though they are still advising me to take a 6 month one.. and running.. Thank you again.. and may god bless you all..

1spclka · « **Reply #88 on:** November 02, 2006, 11:21:41 am »

Hello, I hope someone will answer this.. put my Dr. ran me for all STD's again and it showed that I had passed HBV. He said that it was negative in August, however, that my body hadn't produced the anti-bodys for it yet. My question is will that effect my test? I also have been having very itchy skin, and pain on my right side.. If I was infected with HCV would it have shown up by now, and will that effect my testing.. I hope someone can help..

1spclka · « **Reply #89 on:** November 06, 2006, 12:02:55 pm »

PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME!!! My dr. has now ordered me a viral load test... its been 15 weeks now past exposure.. why do I need to take this test? I don't understand.. Please someone explain.. I had a negative Anti-Body test at 13 weeks... PLEASE I am scared now...

RapidRod · « **Reply #90 on:** November 06, 2006, 03:37:44 pm »

MONEY. You don't need a VL test for a negative result. There is nothing to measure.

1spclka · « **Reply #91 on:** November 06, 2006, 04:01:04 pm »

Thank you Rapid Rod, and yes that test cost me a lot this morning. I have had 5 negative tests, 11days, 6, 8, 10 ,13 weeks.. He said that if this one if all clear, I have to come back in January for my 6 month.. I am going to take what I learned from you guys and just take this as another negative test to come back and move on... Thank you again...

Andy Velez · « **Reply #92 on:** November 06, 2006, 04:09:04 pm »

You don't need another test in 6 months. You don't need a viral load test. You are HIV negative. Period. End of story. No kidding.

GET ON WITH YOUR LIFE!

1spclka · « **Reply #93 on:** November 21, 2006, 11:36:52 am »

Hello, I got my test results back in regards to the viral load test I had to take. My Doctor said it was negative/undetectable, however, I still have to take the test at 6 months. The Viral Load test was taken 105 days past my possible exposure and my 13 week test was negative. So I am in the all clear, and I can refuse to take the test in 6 months? I don't want to add anymore stress to my life. I have been seeing a therapist and have been doing so awesome.. just need a little reassurance that I am done testing.

worried4nothing? · « **Reply #94 on:** November 21, 2006, 02:11:34 pm »

OMG, you make me laugh so hard! I hope the moderators do not keep tangling on your web.

RapidRod · « **Reply #95 on:** November 21, 2006, 02:27:49 pm »

Worried, if you have something to say, say it in your own thread.

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