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HIV Prevention and Testing => Do I Have HIV? => Topic started by: dfwbtmboi on March 22, 2013, 12:45:42 am
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Hello,
It had been over a year since i had met with anyone and had intercourse. I was diagnosed with HPV in my rectum last year. I currently have no outbreaks.
Last week i met up with a guy i found online. He started off by fingering me. He was on top of me with my legs spread and he was kinda stretching my butt cheeks apart while fingering me. It hurt just a little. When he got off of me, he noticed blood on his fingernail. I remember it covered about half his nail. When he left for good, i realized i had a cut. When i tried to wipe myself later that night at the restroom there was a small residue of blood. Since i had a cut, my skin was bleeding. What if he had a cut as well, could this have transmitted hiv? What if his finger bled a little while inside of me?
We engaged in protected oral sex and anal sex (less than 1 min). He ejaculated on my chest and do not remember if i used the same hand that i used to touch and rub his cum on me, to finger myself where the open wound was. Risk?
Thank you and sorry for being descriptive.
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HIV is not transmitted by fingering.
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Even though blood is involved? What if he also was bleeding...that would mean blood from both parties...
What about the other incident i described? Risk?
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You're making this situation more complicated than it actually is. HIV is a fragile virus. It is not transmited in the ways you are concerned about.
Sexually the only confirmed risks for the sexual transmission of HIV are unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse. As long as you always use condoms properly for intercourse you will be well protected.
There is no cause for concern on your part nor any need for testing. Let it go and get on with your life.
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Sorry. Its just that i havent hooked up in over a year so i guess i am concerned i make every effort to avoid getting the virus.
So even in these situations with blood being present for fingering and touching the wound with fresh cum....no risk exits?
Thanks to all of you
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That's right. You are worrying needlessly. If HIV is present, once exposed to the air it becomes non-viable.In order to be transmitted sexually it needs the receptive setting inside a vagina or an anus.
Listen, you can if you need to for your peace of mind get tested. But it's a waste of resources because you have not had a risk. Just make sure condoms are always used for intercourse and you'll be ok as far as HIV is concerned.
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My neighbor who is an infectious disease doctor including hiv said it can stay active from 2 min to an hour so thats why i have been freaking out. However, the cdc just states it is not able to infect outside the body, but does not give a time frame.
My main concern is that if he had a cut on his finger and it released blood while inside of me.....wouldn't that be a direct contact inside my anus with his blood?
I will go test so i can just get over this. Would you recommend the RNA exam which apparently looks for the virus itself.
By the way thanks for your understanding and for your feedback
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df,
If the guy cut the tip of his finger off before he inserted it into your anus, then and only then would you potentially have a problem.
Let me ask you this, if YOU had a fresh, bleeding cut on your finger, would you be sticking that finger up someone's ass? It would hurt like hell for a start, so I'm confident your answer would be HELL NO!!! Why would you think anyone would stick a fresh bleeding cut finger into your ass? Come off it.
Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:
You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.
To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.
Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.
ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST FOR HIV SPECIFICALLY OVER THIS NO RISK FINGERING INCIDENT, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.
If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.
Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!
Ann
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Ann,
I wasnt referring to a major cut but if he had a small one, would that create a problem?......after he fingered me, i gave him oral sex with a condom. He would use his hands to touch my head so if it was a big cut i wouldve seen him dripping blood....
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Ann,
Also does the virus become inactive instantly?
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df,
Small cut, large cut, medium cut, it doesn't matter. If it was fresh enough to start bleeding inside your ass, believe me, he wouldn't have been sticking it inside your ass.
Again, I ask you. If YOU had a fresh - even moderately fresh - cut on your finger, would you be sticking that finger up someone's asshole? I doubt it very much.
Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is primarily transmitted INSIDE the human body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse where the virus never leaves the confines of the two bodies.
Once outside the body, small changes in temperature, and pH and moisture levels all quickly damage the virus and render it unable to infect. Hiv just is not capable of being transmitted outside the body.
If you cannot bring yourself to believe us when we tell you that you have NOT been at risk for hiv infection, go test and collect your negative result. As a sexually active adult you should be testing at least once a year anyway.
I will warn you right now, even though you've paid a subscription our rules about excessive posting about NO RISK situations still applies to you.
If you read the Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0) before posting like you're supposed to, you will have read the following posting guideline:
Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.
Please consider yourself warned!
Ann
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Ok thanks! I will test for peace of mind.....althought ill expect a neg result....what are your thought of an rna test that looks for actual virus? It is heavily promoted in my area
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df,
RNA testing is heavily promoted in your area because it makes big bucks for some people, not because it's a good idea for the patient.
You absolutely do NOT need RNA testing. Any RNA testing would still have to be confirmed with standard antibody testing. Don't waste your money on expensive RNA testing.
You don't need testing at all over this situation, but if you're going to test for peace of mind, test with an antibody test at six weeks past this incident. Collect your negative result and get on with your life.
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. IT REALLY IS THAT SIMPLE!!!
Ann
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Ann or whomever,
The information i have received from you guys has calmed me down. Yesterday was the first night i was actually able to sleep. I am still tripping after reading this:
HIV enters the body through open cuts, sores or breaks in the skin; through mucous membranes, such as those inside the anus or vagina; or through direct injection. There are several ways by which this can happen:
I know you said no one would do such s thing but if the cut was small, he probably wouldn't feel any abnormal pain. I just need reassurance. This will be my last post.
I accepted the fact that in the other incident where i rubbed his cum and then fingered myself with an open wound was not a risk.
Trust me, i am seeking a counselor as soon as i get my test.
Thanks for what you do
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Listen, if you continue to search on the net and elsewhere to feed your fears, you will find lots to accomplish that but all to no good purpose. You've been given the real deal about your non-risk. Since you seem to want to get tested which is essentially just for your peace of mind, ok do it. And collect the inevitable negative result.
Hopefully then you will let go of this fear and move on with your life. At this point there is nothing more we can do for you in this setting.
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Well thanks.....the cuts and fingering is what gets me. :(