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Author Topic: "Safe" Bareback Films?  (Read 4929 times)

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Offline Iggy

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"Safe" Bareback Films?
« on: September 26, 2007, 01:24:43 pm »
I'm not sure I get the point outside of the whole Pontius Pilate-ing of bareback issues by the gay porn industry.

Gay Porn Breakthru: "Safe" Bareback?

Bareback porn has been a bone of contention in the gay porn industry for almost a decade. While major studios have long fought bareback upstarts for encouraging unsafe behavior and profiting from unsafe working conditions, the point may now be moot: Raging Stallion director Chris Ward claims to have produced the first safe-sex bareback film.

According to his blog, Ward has figured out a way to produce a safe sex scene that uses condoms while removing the visual signifiers...

"Over the past year I have undertaken a huge (and secret) research and development project aimed at filming safe sex so that the viewer cannot see the condoms. In short, the condoms are still on the dick but not in the viewer's face. Just as Hollywood studios can remove street signs or unwanted images from their movies, Raging Stallion now has the capability of making condoms barely visible in most cases."


While some people will probably still decry the movies as a bad example for the general population, he doesn't plan on denying the fact that condoms are there. Ward says he'll offer proof on each disc that show the condoms in use.

I've never been a big believer in the danger of "media effects" (remember all the social curses that were to result from Beavis and Butthead's cartoon activity or the supposed Marilyn Manson/Columbine connection?), but that doesn't mean showing it onscreen is in the moral clear. In an era of little or no public education about HIV, is it right to encourage it? One thing is certain (at least to me): what people do their own bedroom may be their own business but what they do in the workplace concerns the State.

There's sure to be a firestorm (as well as a lot of furtive masturbation). Is Chris a heretic? A traitor to the cause? A revolutionary? A Dr. Frankenstein? This may signal a new move for the industry -- or perhaps he's created the porn equivalent of non-fat ice cream (all the pleasure, none of the guilt)? Or is all this smoke and mirrors just another porn gimmick?



MODIFIED:  I forgot about the source of the story.  I can't link it as it will take the gentle and innocent reader to a site with close up images of cocks in holes and I think we are suppose to avoid linking porn, so if anyone want's more info just google gay porn blog.
« Last Edit: September 26, 2007, 01:30:05 pm by Iggy »

Offline Basquo

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Re: "Safe" Bareback Films?
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2007, 01:29:27 pm »
When he creates something that makes it FEEL as if the condom isn't there, I'll call him a hero.

Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: "Safe" Bareback Films?
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2007, 01:45:41 pm »
Well, having viewed the latest Raging Stallion release "Playback" the other day I can safely say that Chris Ward is talking out of his ass because whatever "new" production approach he feels he is taking it looks exactly the same as it ever did.

Otherwise I'm not even sure what direction Iggy wishes this discussion to go in.
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Offline Cliff

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Re: "Safe" Bareback Films?
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2007, 02:00:05 pm »
I'm not sure I understand why faking bareback sex is so special.  It doesn't seem to resolve the issues that some people have with those types of videos.  Complaining about bareback videos is like accusing video games and TV shows of making teenagers violent.

Offline Javicho

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Re: "Safe" Bareback Films?
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2007, 03:42:21 pm »
Cliff I agree with you 100 %

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Re: "Safe" Bareback Films?
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2007, 04:40:15 pm »
So what is his message? Bareback is cool but he wants to protect the actors? The guy needs to admit that bareback sells and find another way to fight this trend rather to adapt to it in a convoluted way.

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Re: "Safe" Bareback Films?
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2007, 05:56:05 pm »
  What I understand the film maker is doing is not spoiling the film for a person who maybe gets a little "turned off" by the site of condoms during sex. It is a reality that many persons do not like condoms at all. I know whenever I see a condom in a film it does turn me off a little because I mostly think of what the top is avoiding (venereal diseases) and it does distract me from thinking about just a fun pleasurable safe _uck like in the good old days when aids wasn't messing up peoples lives. I see it well that the actors are playing it safe, but I prefer seeing them without a condom on. A penis with a condom in a film to me is like hiding that models feature presentation! It seems good to me if the film director can hide the condom with whatever idea he has as long as he's doing it only for those who enjoy their films visually "condom free". If he purposely promotes barebacking "condom free" is another issue, especially when the model may be screwing with many partners.
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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: "Safe" Bareback Films?
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2007, 07:01:47 pm »
Well, we all know that 99% of bareback videos are marketed as such, so that's a stretch to think it's relevant in that context.

Like I said, Chris Ward is just making stuff up.  There is no apparent difference to me in his new video which just came out last week, and they've been using this technique supposedly since April.  I post on another forum that Chris Ward posts on and he can often over-hype things, and I'm afraid this is one of those cases.
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Re: "Safe" Bareback Films?
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2007, 08:01:46 pm »
Well, we all know that 99% of bareback videos are marketed as such, so that's a stretch to think it's relevant in that context.

Like I said, Chris Ward is just making stuff up.  There is no apparent difference to me in his new video which just came out last week, and they've been using this technique supposedly since April.  I post on another forum that Chris Ward posts on and he can often over-hype things, and I'm afraid this is one of those cases.
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Re: "Safe" Bareback Films?
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2007, 08:23:37 pm »
You were watching a fisting video, dear. He never said anything about gloves.

Milker.

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Re: "Safe" Bareback Films?
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2007, 08:44:37 pm »
In addition to what Cliff said, people seem to want to remove themselves from making the choice of what they do and do not watch. It's so much easier to blame the maker of the video and make the maker change their videos than to decide, "You know, I don't think I'm going to watch that."
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Re: "Safe" Bareback Films?
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2007, 07:36:10 pm »
Raging Stallion is almost as lame as Falcon. I haven't been aroused by such stuff in years.

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