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Offline JimDublin

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Depression - emotional, physical and behavioral symptoms
« on: October 03, 2017, 08:45:19 AM »
Remember all to take care of your mental health with as much if not more care than your physical health.

Depression is serious and can also cause physical complains! Common but not exhaustive:


Aches and pain, chronic joint pain, limb pain, back pain, gastrointestinal problems, tiredness, sleep disturbances, psychomotor activity changes, and appetite changes

So do look after yourself.




https://www.poz.com/article/interested-much-lately-clinically-depressed

Depression is a cluster of emotional, physical and behavioral symptoms characterized by sadness, low self-esteem, loss of pleasure and, sometimes, difficulty functioning. We all experience occasional periods of feeling down.

If these problems persist over time, cause real suffering and interfere with the business and pleasure of daily life, you may have a clinical depression.

Depression affects more than 15 million U.S. adults and is one of America’s costliest illnesses. If you think you may be depressed, it’s best to talk to your doctor.
Depression Screening Day is observed the first week in October; a screening tool is available on the Screening for Mental Health website at helpyourselfhelpothers.org.

If you or someone you love is suicidal, seek help immediately. You can call the national suicide prevention hotline at 1.800.273.TALK (1.800.273.8255) or go to your local emergency room.

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Re: Depression - emotional, physical and behavioral symptoms
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2017, 10:43:27 AM »
Thanks, Jim.  It's really good to post this type of thing from time to time.  Sometimes this issue gets lost in the storm of pills, pills, pills.  But depression can be as much of a threat to HIV positive people as opportunistic infections--if also left untreated.

Let us not forget that it was two years ago at the end of this month (October 31/November 1, 2015) that one of our most vibrant, witty, and intelligent members--David Sowards (Aka, Miss Philicia)--succumbed to a dark night of the soul.

May he continue to rest in peace.  Those of us on these forums moved and entertained by him will remember him always:

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Re: Depression - emotional, physical and behavioral symptoms
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2017, 05:31:28 PM »


I thought about the importance of Mental Health when remembering
several Family Members and Friends who have passed and the
Melancholy it brings in addition to one's own daily survival.

I truly appreciate your posts Jim and Ptrk.

Love and Best to Everyone,

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Re: Depression - emotional, physical and behavioral symptoms
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2017, 10:27:06 AM »
Having had first hand experience of this,unrelated to Hiv,it can be utterly debilitating.

For the 2 years before i was Dx`d i had a very bad depression,so much so that my Hiv diagnosis paled in comparison.The Doctor said he would prefer to have his leg amputated rather than go through it.

I`m not trying to scare anyone with dramatics,just warn people to respect how you feel and be careful of the slippery slope.It is not unmanly,unwomanly or weak to address how you feel with a professional or share it with a true friend.Be mindful of self isolation.

Also don`t underestimate the power of exercise in the preventative fight against depressive feelings.It is a potent biological agent for well being.

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Re: Depression - emotional, physical and behavioral symptoms
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2017, 01:38:34 AM »
@paintedroom

Just wanted to really thank you for sharing that, I really appreciate it, its deeply personal and I know its not easiest thing to share. I do hope you are doing well and have continue to have the support you need. I fully agree with you that people should not face this health concern alone and should not be ashamed to ask for support.

Jim

Personally Ill add that I am fortunate not to have experienced depression myself, however I have sadly been in the position that it affected loved ones, and next to their own lives, it had a profound impact on my life and the other people who loved them. Particularly so when facing the aftermath of what it can lead to.

Talking about depression, people in our community should know it can happen (regardless of HIV or HIV treatment) and it can simply be absolutely devastating however it is not something to be ashamed about and people should not face it alone. There is support and help.

Also sometimes its often missed or not recognized early, particularly when people have other medical needs. Symptoms, including many physical ones can mistakenly be put down to the treatment of and/or other health issues, when in fact the truth is the cause / symptoms are actually from depression setting in.

So it is really important for people to be aware of this, and to be open and clear about what they are experiencing and how they are feeling.

Jim   

 
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Re: Depression - emotional, physical and behavioral symptoms
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2017, 09:59:53 AM »
Thank you Jim.

Yes i think the keyword for me to learn in the last years was mindfulness.It`s so important to stay on track and continue to do positive things every day.I understand in Sociological terms they characterise the position today as that of the beleaguered individual - no jobs for life,little job security,family instability,pandemic narcissism,sexual politics,neo-liberalism(nothing new or liberal) reducing us all to vulgar utility,the crisis of authority etc. etc. - this all reduces us to a defensive core of nervous impulses and anxious states,expecting the worst.The flip side of anxiety is depression..they are always related in differing degrees.Many people turn to alcohol,drugs,food etc and make things even worse for themselves.So it is in this shadow that people must learn to have compassion for themselves,allow themselves to feel vulnerable.The culture at large actively fosters competition,meanness,cynicism and paranoia..make sure you have good and trustworthy friends.Stay away from toxic social environments/groups.

The going is pretty dam tough today.Sequester time for yourself and keep the old love alive.

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Re: Depression - emotional, physical and behavioral symptoms
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2017, 11:30:53 PM »
In fact because I was feeling extremely extremely sad and found my self spiraling down mentally, and triggered I inadvertently got on this site... and well I read and read so many posts, and realized I have more to be thankful and grateful for. And I found courage and genuine caring. And so if ur a lurker ... post, bc you just don't know if what you got to say or share will help someone, will lift up someone, cheer up someone... it did for me. this dam disease is hell to face all by urself.

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Re: Depression - emotional, physical and behavioral symptoms
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2017, 08:59:41 PM »
Jim et al thank you for posting this. I did take the survey at helpyourselfhelpothers.org I answered as truthfully as I knew I felt at the time. It said I didn't meet the definition of depression but hell I feel bad. And please don't tell me to talk to someone. I'd prolly lose my clearance and I don't feel like telling someone my sob story bc we all have them but at thxgiving and Xmas I always get very very depressed. Nov was when I found out I was poz.  I go from "extreme sadness" to somewhat "ok I got this" to "why me" to "I hate myself for what I did" to "I knew better and still I did it" to "no one will forgive me not even God" to "see everyone hates me, my mom, my ex" to "no one wants an HIV victim to love" to  "why are they changing my meds, bet they are lying to me, I'm failing my regimen and they aren't telling me bc they don't want me to know the truth" so y'all it goes like this... a complete spiral downward of thoughts that have no basis in fact.  It never stops. So it's easier telling a stranger how you feel instead of someone face to face because I find it hard to trust someone. This all stems from childhood abuse so bad it was of the nature of the book called "A Child Called It." So there are things that others post that help me to see how they coped. Like how they felt or thought. Like for example someone said to another poster, "you will love who you will love" when someone asked the same question I asked tonight "who wants me" and with that I am trying to take small steps to love me bc it starts with me, but it's not easy being me. I appreciate everyone who shares about their struggle with depression bc the little things you say might be the big thing in my life that day that helps. Please don't think I'm weird for posting how depressed I get. Like my HIV counselor always told me, it's ok to feel sad... just don't stay there too long... there's a huge time between now and new years eve... I got to get thru the holidays in one piece.
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Re: Depression - emotional, physical and behavioral symptoms
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2017, 06:46:44 AM »
It's terrible to hear about the past abuse and I can only wish you strength in coping with that past in your life.   

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I did take the survey at helpyourselfhelpothers.org I answered as truthfully as I knew I felt at the time. It said I didn't meet the definition of depression but hell I feel bad.

An online survey is not going to diagnose you, its a good intro tool to get people thinking but not meeting the definition on an online survey does not mean your are or are not depressed or need support.

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And please don't tell me to talk to someone.
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So it's easier telling a stranger how you feel instead of someone face to face because I find it hard to trust someone.

As for the HIV and depression, well look we all feel down at times, you can't have highs without lows. I'm concerned to hear that you think the rest of the world see you as "HIV victim" and that nobody wants you because of that. I hope this is not a continued thought process. Therapy can and does help people, sometimes we all need someone to talk to and I get that you don't want to talk to someone face to face and a stranger may make things easier, personally i think the same. Have you considered perhaps at least talking to someone over the phone?

Look maybe i am way off base, but to me it sounds like you have a lot on your plate between being sick and also coping with a past and current thoughts. I do think you should talk to someone even if its by phone, depression and mood problems can cause so many physical problems and long term mental health problems is something to be taken very seriously.

I am glad to hear that reading the forum helps, I hope you continue to use it.   

Jim
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