kissing really no risk right? just making sure, please read to end

[mindlost]

It's been a long while since hiv worries crept into my head, but this bugs me.

Please don't dismiss this as lapdance story.
So what happened was I did get a dance and there was definitely blood (I know because I was wearing light colored shorts and it was red stained).   And the girl told me so that she didn't realize her period was happening early.  (I have a repoire with the dancer since I've gotten dances with her a lot)  and she said she was very sorry.

I've heard time and time again no penetration, no risk no matter what (is this really that simple?)  but this blood thing happened right at my penis hole and it definitely seeped all the way through.  So I want to ask the worst scenario:  me wearing thin shorts, without underwear being grinded on with blood seeping through to my penis hole.  Is this a real risk? 

[Jeff G]

HIV is a fragile virus and is instantly damaged when exposed to oxygen . The slight change in temperature and PH levels render HIV unable to infect . This is why HIV isn't infectious in environmental settings like on hands and counter tops , toilets , you name it .

The risk factors for HIV are as follows .

Sharing IV drug needles immediately after use.
Unprotected anal and vaginal sex.
Mother to child during or shortly after birth
Very specific healthcare situations.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED HIV TESTING AT THIS TIME for this incident , anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!   

[mindlost]

Despite the hundreds of lap dances I've had I never really worried, but I'm not used to seeing blood there. 
in topic=50657.0  some dude rubs his penis against a menstruating vagina and that's even considered no risk, which is supposed to make my risk even less likely. 

But I was wondering about hiv not surviving in environment or outside the body. (in this case my shorts and penis tip being there during the lap dance).   Is it the hiv virus floating in blood that won't survive, does that includes the viruses inside the immune cells carried by blood that still won't survive.   That's why I feel like it's more dangerous to have some blood there.     
I know I won't be the first or last dude that'll ever experience a lap dance by stripper in her bleeding cycle, but doctors and med forums always consider lapdances safe, do they even consider this extreme?

[Jeff G]

You are thinking about this too hard buddy . The risk for HIV is from unprotected vaginal or anal sex , period . It should give you comfort to know that no one in the long history of HIV has ever been infected in the manner you are concerned with .

Its safe for you to move on with your life and put this behind you . If you had a risk we would tell you so that you could get tested and prevent more infections , that what we do .     

[mindlost]

Hi folks

Simple details are I just kissed and made out a few seconds with a girl and I enjoyed it, but later I got worried so I visited this site for some reassurance.

I have read repeatedly here (and a few other places) that kissing no matter what is no risk, but stumbled upon  a post on this site and  his final posts about his test made my heart sink.
I got worried  cause thought I might had bleed gums on lower front like him, but not as bad as his condition

I think the MAIN question is,... would you guys update your responses if someone is confirmed positive by just kissing.  The post I mentioned ends Nov 2013   but  recent responses you give to anything after Nov 2013 still say kissing no risk.   So can I assume the end of the post where he claimed he is positive just some fluke?

[Joe K]

I removed the link you provided as that person was never confirmed as positive.

Kissing is simply not a risk for HIV infection.

The risk factors for HIV are ...

Sharing IV drug needles immediately after use.
Unprotected anal and vaginal sex.
Mother to child during or shortly after birth.
Very specific health care situations.

Use condoms for vaginal and anal sex consistently and correctly and you will avoid HIV infection, it is that simple.

Joe