Ok to all that talk to me in private messages, I guess I don't belong here because I have to make sure I don't answer to anyone to where I'm not allowed. I got disrespected (and yes you were rude!) because I replied to a poster under "am I infected" ..sorry I know how it feels to be infected! I will send out my private email to whom I respond with as I won't be visiting these boards anymore. As if I don't deal with enough BS in life!
If anyone could "kindly" explain to me how to remove my profile from this site, it would be greatly appreciated
Ugh. This thread is so wrong in so many ways.
Littlebear, fuck off back to your original thread, after 16 posts you should know the rules.
Pretty, you're not authorised to respond in AMI threads, so don't.Stick to your own thread.Stay out of AMI.
Ya dig?
MtD
/edit: to correct my orignal message since it appears Pretty is a pozzie./
Myself, I am not HIV+ but I'm here because of my friend who is poz and I would NOT dream of giving advice to anyone in this forum relating to HIV.
PrettyHeart,
I think you're talking this too personally. This is a wonderful site full of incredible people brave enough to come forward and be open about their status, as well as their HIV-negative friends and loved ones. You did violate the rules, but during my short time here I've seen quite a few people ignore the rules in that forum, sometimes repeatedly after being warned. Can you imagine how frustrated the powers-that-be are?
I looked at Matty the Damned's post:
Doesn't seem all that rude to me, honestly. All he did was tell you to stay out of that forum - as in, not reply to any threads. You're not authorized. Simple as that. I know you have good intentions at heart, but there are perfectly valid reasons for that forum being limited to a select few people. Giving the wrong advice could seriously harm someone physically or psychologically and I imagine it can cause liability issues for this website. Please, leave it to the select few authorized to reply in that forum.
Myself, I am not HIV+ but I'm here because of my friend who is poz and I would NOT dream of giving advice to anyone in this forum relating to HIV. It's not my place at all because I cannot draw from experience nor formal training, as it isn't your place to advise people who are worried about their statuses since you have not been trained in these matters.
With all that said... I do hope you'll decide to stay.
I don't think, in light of that, that you're supposed to be posting outside of "Someone I Care About..." or "Off Topic" yet you have been.
I went over this with Andy Velez. The description for the "Living with HIV" forum reads:
Living With HIV
For HIV+ individuals and their friends & family
My friend is on this forum under the name klouny, and I'm here because I care for him as more than a friend - more like a little brother. The forum has helped me out tremendously by allowing me to draw from others' experiences with reacting to their seroconversion to help my friend out. If it's really a problem for me to post in that forum, please let me know and I will cease.
Child, you've got me all in a quandry. On the one hand, you're right because you're defending my position. You've made a powerful ally today. :)
But on the other hand you're a neggie posting in Living With.
Generally speaking y'all kind is chased out of this forum (something I've never agreed with) even though the rules about posting in LW are not clear.
Goderators, can we get a ruling here? Are the mortals allowed to post in LW or not? If not change the subtitle of the forum to reflect that.
You've got a point here. And it's a matter I've raised with the Goderators on numerous occasions. They can't seem to agree on who is allowed to post in LW and who is not.
As a pozzie my view is that you should be permitted to post here. Many people live with the virus, not just those who are infected.
We need to include those who are affected as well as those who are infected.
To that end I think the Someone I Care About should be merged with Living With.
Of course, cross me and I'll change sides in a heartbeat. :)
MtD
Hmmm... I did notice some inconsistency in enforcing this rule. That's why I had a brief talk with Andy. How about instead of barring us outright, how about imposing and enforcing stricter rules on us. Something like not giving HIV-related advice, for example. What do you think?
I agree with you that many people who aren't infected live with the virus, but I'm not sure about merging the two forums. On one hand, the "Someone I Care About Has HIV" forum isn't really all that popular - only one person responded to a thread I made there last week asking for advice. On the other hand, that would blur the lines and make enforcing the rules (that I suggested above) more difficult.
And you don't have to worry about me crossing anyone. ;) I try to be careful to follow the rules and be respectful of others!
With all due respect, I believe that only poz people should be posting in the Living With HIV forum. It is not that members, who are not poz, cannot be supportive or compassionate, it is that they are not poz and therefore are not living with HIV. I had no idea the rules for this forum were not specific as to you having to be poz to post in this forum and no offense, but I have no desire to hand hold folks, who are negative, by having to explain to them things that pozzies share. I don't like the idea of another forum becoming a free for all and we gave them their own forum and this one should remain for solely poz posters.
And if those diagnosed prior to 1996 feel the need for their own precious space, then I support the existence of thecoffin dodgersLong Term Survivors' Forum. Frankly it's a good place to contain people who have nothing better to do than prattle on about how nasty ddI was.
As if anyone gives a shit.
I disagree with what you said about us negs "not living with HIV," actually. We may not be infected, but we have people in our lives that are, and that can affect us. Who says you have to explain anything? That's what rules are for. Granted, some ignore them but one can learn a lot simply by reading posts in the forum. That's why I proposed strict rules for neg posters in that forum, as well as a bit of leeway for posting in, for example, my friend's threads since that's who I am here for.
Again, whatever the admins decide, I will abide.
Forgive me, but you are NOT LIVING WITH HIV. You are living with someone who is LIVING WITH HIV. There is a huge difference and I am sorry if you cannot understand that we need a space to call our own. I'm going to log off, before I say what I really feel.
Wow. Just wow.
Pretty,
I just wanted to welcome you to the forums, hope you stick around. This place is a valuable resource to have right now so early after your diagnosis. It might be best to take a breather for the night and come back tomorrow, you may see things differently as well.
I know how rough this time can be, so I hope you are ok.
Skeebo
Heh. You're one smoooooth operator Tommy. :)
MtD
While the "Living With HIV" forum IS technically open to all people living with and affected by HIV, there are certain individuals we do not allow to post there, notably panicked individuals from "Am I Infected?" querying positive members about their symptoms, when and how frequently they tested, ad nauseam. We've also asked individuals exhibiting nothing more than morbid curiosity from posting in "Living With" as well.
Perhaps the moderators -- myself included -- have been too cavalier with our language in trying to keep the "Living With HIV" forum safe. We will never ask individuals to come right out and disclose whether or not they are living with HIV -- or how long they've been infected, which makes things a little difficult when new members post in the "Long-Term Survivors" forum -- which hasn't really been a problem thus far; I hardly think that individuals like SunnyFlorida render the "Living With HIV" forum any less safe or effective.
With the volume of active members we have in these Forums, compounded by how balkanized these forums are, it's difficult to stay on top of everything. In turn, the moderators tend to act on egregious messages posted to specific Forums rather than convene regularly to discuss what we do and don't know about specific members.
I'm happy to set up a poll to query whether or not we should limit "Living With HIV" only to people are HIV positive. Just know that, even if I change the description of this Forum on the homepage, the moderators won't be ferreting out members who are negative and otherwise helping maintain harmony in these Forums.
I don't understand what the big controversy is all about. Members like SunnyFlorida have not violated any posting rules. These quotes are taken from the "Welcome" thread of the respective boards:
“Living With HIV”
"Whether you are HIV positive yourself, or one of your friends or family is living with HIV, you have come to the right place for support and information. Feel free to ask questions or even just come here to vent if that's what you need. Living with HIV can be a rollercoaster ride of emotions and no matter what you're going through, there's sure to be a forum member - or twenty! - who can empathise."
“Someone I Care About Has HIV”
"The existence of this forum does not mean you can't post in the "Living With HIV" forum, or other forums, when appropriate, but it does give you a place where you can talk to other people in similar circumstances to your own."
Dan
Until there is a change to the Living With HIV Forum -- and it's not at all apparent to me that this is, in fact, necessary -- folks like SunnyFlorida, Teresa, etc. are more than welcome to continue posting and sharing as they have been.
In all honesty, this is a tempest in a teapot -- this thread started because of a well-meaning, but ultimately unauthorized, individual providing feedback in the "Am I Infected?" forum. The rules couldn't be any clearer in this respect. PrettyHeart, when all is said and done, I seriously hope you'll stay with us.
My hubby has never learned anything about HIV on his own. I am the one that keeps track of his numbers. I am the one that asks for and makes sure I have copies of all his labs. I am the one that explains his labs to him and if theres a question about his labs I am the one that calls and talks to the Dr. I'm the one that calls once a month to get his meds refilled. I may not have HIV but I do live with it everday.
I should have been clearer in my earlier post. My concern is not that everyone must be poz to post in the Living forum, just that the posts are relevant to the forum. This post was originally made in the Living forum and was rightly moved to Off Topic, however, other confusing posts remain. A perfect example is the post regarding a job seeker and his interview. As enjoyable as the post is, why is it in the Living forum? I am not seeking to demean either the post or the poster, as I know that the ultimate decision on where a post belongs to the moderators. However, I do believe that having somewhat conflicting posts within the same forum, could be contributing to the problems of folks mistakenly posting in the wrong forums.
With all due respect, I believe that only poz people should be posting in the Living With HIV forum. It is not that members, who are not poz, cannot be supportive or compassionate, it is that they are not poz and therefore are not living with HIV. I had no idea the rules for this forum were not specific as to you having to be poz to post in this forum and no offense, but I have no desire to hand hold folks, who are negative, by having to explain to them things that pozzies share. I don't like the idea of another forum becoming a free for all and we gave them their own forum and this one should remain for solely poz posters.
Yeah? You seemed pretty clear to me Joe:
MtD
I know what I said earlier and I am no longer so sure that I totally agree with what I said before. Teresa is a perfect example of someone who has posted in the Living forum and always contributes something meaningful and she just happens to be negative. Sometimes I write before I really think about something and in this case, it no longer is simply black and white to me. I am just glad that I don't have to make the rules, let alone enforce them.
Oh, one last thing: Bitch! ;D
Nobody cares about the Greener Pastures of your poz youth, Matty... move along
Now I'm getting confused.
What is the, "Someone I care about has HIV" forum about? I thought it was started to separate the non-positive people from the Living With so they could exchange their thoughts with people that are in the same predicament? Now I'm getting confused.
But who am I.
-Will
Yea so all this confusion is just too much for me! I guess I'm only allowed to post in "Living with HIV" and I suppose in "positive women" as I am a female. Should I stay out of "I just tested poz" since its been what, 3 months since I was diagnosed? I think its a little crazy that I should have to worry about "OMG did I put that in the right place?" or "Oh damn am I allowed to talk to that person?" when I want or better yet, when I NEED to talk to someone, ask questions, talk with someone that knows the road I will face later on, especially when I need meds, etc. I have enough on my plate thank you.
And to think that I have told my children, the only ones that I have disclosed to, to come here if they ever have any questions or concerns about ME. Scratch that, they won't come here. I won't have them coming here and be rudely talked to if they screw up and put their post somewhere where it does not belong! Especially by someone that had NO RIGHT to tell me to stay out of anywhere. That should have been left up to the "chosen ones".
Matt - You have something sarcastic to say to just about everyone here. You even put down long term survivors. Wow won't you be one someday? you hope? Thank God you are not a "chosen one". If you were the first person that I talked to after being diagnosed, with all your smart ass comments, I'm sure suicide would have crossed my mind! You are rude, you are an asshole!
So worrying about where I post on a forum is too much! I will get my answers some place where it will be more compassionate and a little more lifting.
oh well damn if he is a "chosen one" without compassion, hell no I dont' need to be here!! I dont' need someone like that "helping" me through my time. I didn't find anything about coffin dodger a bit funny. I'm sure those people have fought and fought to still be here today...what is wrong with you people????
damn..peace out...delete me please!!
oh well damn if he is a "chosen one" without compassion, hell no I dont' need to be here!! I dont' need someone like that "helping" me through my time. I didn't find anything about coffin dodger a bit funny. I'm sure those people have fought and fought to still be here today...what is wrong with you people????
damn..peace out...delete me please!!
oh well damn if he is a "chosen one" without compassion, hell no I dont' need to be here!! I dont' need someone like that "helping" me through my time. I didn't find anything about coffin dodger a bit funny. I'm sure those people have fought and fought to still be here today...what is wrong with you people????
damn..peace out...delete me please!!
Yea so all this confusion is just too much for me! I guess I'm only allowed to post in "Living with HIV" and I suppose in "positive women" as I am a female. Should I stay out of "I just tested poz" since its been what, 3 months since I was diagnosed? I think its a little crazy that I should have to worry about "OMG did I put that in the right place?" or "Oh damn am I allowed to talk to that person?" when I want or better yet, when I NEED to talk to someone, ask questions, talk with someone that knows the road I will face later on, especially when I need meds, etc. I have enough on my plate thank you.
And to think that I have told my children, the only ones that I have disclosed to, to come here if they ever have any questions or concerns about ME. Scratch that, they won't come here. I won't have them coming here and be rudely talked to if they screw up and put their post somewhere where it does not belong! Especially by someone that had NO RIGHT to tell me to stay out of anywhere. That should have been left up to the "chosen ones".
Matt - You have something sarcastic to say to just about everyone here. You even put down long term survivors. Wow won't you be one someday? you hope? Thank God you are not a "chosen one". If you were the first person that I talked to after being diagnosed, with all your smart ass comments, I'm sure suicide would have crossed my mind! You are rude, you are an asshole!
So worrying about where I post on a forum is too much! I will get my answers some place where it will be more compassionate and a little more lifting.
oh well damn if he is a "chosen one" without compassion, hell no I dont' need to be here!! I dont' need someone like that "helping" me through my time. I didn't find anything about coffin dodger a bit funny. I'm sure those people have fought and fought to still be here today...what is wrong with you people????
damn..peace out...delete me please!!
damn..peace out...delete me please!!
As a LTS (and I don't speak for all LTS) the first thing you need to dodge the coffin is a sense of humor.
Can someone help me with this? I've searched for the thread, but cannot find it. About a month ago or so, someone poz for about 3 months posted in Living. They were told since they were newly poz, they should post in I just tested poz. This causes so much confusion. I felt that person should definitely be able to post in Living. It just seemed so unnecessary to basically say, "you're not poz long enough yet."
I find it hard to believe anyone was told that -- that's simply never been the case here and you've been on the board long enough to know that.
I dont even read the LTS,
I peruse Shady Acres occasionally, there's a wealth of info there.
-Will
I LOVE the coffin dodgers...we could start a bowling team. Or maybe "the Un-embalmed"...
Maybe we should change our Cabal name to the Coffin Dodgers Cabal, but the Un-Embalmed Cabal also has a nice ring to it.
Or Corpse Draggers..... ;)
CaptCarl
mortician muffin
oh well damn if he is a "chosen one" without compassion, hell no I dont' need to be here!! I dont' need someone like that "helping" me through my time. I didn't find anything about coffin dodger a bit funny. I'm sure those people have fought and fought to still be here today...what is wrong with you people????
damn..peace out...delete me please!!
Matty The Ledge Whisperer.
Sing the song, my dear (though horribly neglected) friend. Seems that once upon a time I performed a similar function for at least one other member here as well.
I do have some strange fascination with MtD and some of it is sexual. I fantasize about him from time to time as I browse his clever commentary and occasional innuendo.
I do have some strange fascination with MtD and some of it is sexual. I fantasize about him from time to time as I browse his clever commentary and occasional innuendo.
BTW: he has really big hands.....
I've been down to Oz and had the pleasure of meeting Matty. He's everything you think and more. BTW: he has really big hands.....
Did someone say "fisting"? MMMMMMMMMMM :P
Ann spanked me once also...it wasn't so bad. (I know, I know, must EVERYTHING be sexual?) ROFLMAO
Ann spanked me once also...it wasn't so bad.
No offense directed at any of the above posters, but as Paddle Master of the local skeezy leather dive in FtL,
Sounds like my kind of place, what's the address, I am looking for somewhere for a little getaway!!!
Hey Woody, I've got big hands, and I love to spank bad boys on the cheeks ;D
I bet thats not all you like to do with bad boys....Don't ask & don't tell ;D aint no bodies busness if I do :D
This thread has now become about some rather public messages.
Its a guy thing for the most part but I bet many women think the same way too 'deep down inside'.
You need to reread Ann's posts.
You need to reread Ann's posts.
Or the quote in my signature line:
Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin
We get the derogatory label pinned on us, whereas where men are concerned, it's considered "average".
I'm a Scorpio. We were born to shag, whether male or female. ;)
We get the derogatory label pinned on us, whereas where men are concerned, it's considered "average".
I'm a Scorpio. We were born to shag, whether male or female. ;)
'deep down inside'.
No shit! Every Scorpio I have ever known is eternally horny :o
I'm a Scorpio and I am totally frigid. The mere thought of sex is repulsive to me ;D
No shit! Every Scorpio I have ever known is eternally horny :o
The mere thought of sex is repulsive to me ;D
The last time I was there they threw me out when I told the hottie swinging that incense thurible "I love your dress but your purse is on fire".
(Leos naturally excluded).
I'm deeply wounded.......
Its a guy thing for the most part but I bet many women think the same way too 'deep down inside'.
Yes lord. And I'm the same as Ann, men and women are included. I'm not a Scorpio, however, and do not follow the Zodiac, so I'm not aware of the characteristics that go along with each sign. I am a Virgo, though.
Rev, I think someone hijacked your account!
I'm a Taurus so I like to fuck however I say so .
Jeff had a BF that was a Taurus OH FUCK YEAH :P my Father was also ;)
Yeah, it was one of them multiple personalities. I slapped her silly and went back to watching some bareback S&M pornz.
btw Moonie- Moon, Lovin the Avatar!! Holy shit, it's kinda like our own little Xtube right here in the Forums. Keep up the good work.
-Will
Oh. I thought he was just chewing some really good bubble gum.
Son, your cheeks weren't even red. Just wait 'til I really get going!
Virgo's are Great people, I knew a few of em' men & women ;D
I'm . . . analytical, . . .
I am a Virgo, though.
So how did we go from a whiny thread about Private Messages to which Zodiac sign likes to fuck the most? ;)
Yeah, it was one of them multiple personalities. I slapped her silly and went back to watching some bareback S&M pornz.
That face is while on the stationary bike.
Intriguing LOL :)
(http://tool.shagnasty.net/wiki/images/c/c7/LOL-lolz.jpg)
MtD
Matty, you have to stop wearing your hair like that! It just doesn't suit you.
Yea dude, and nobody is gonna want you to give them any head with all that tooth action going on.
Matty, you have to stop wearing your hair like that! It just doesn't suit you.
Can't be me pet. He has WAY too many teeth.
MtD
Must be your latest houseboi then. Amiright?
Really? Virgo? The Virgin? Really? ;D :D ;)
Yes, what do the faces mean? Is there something about my sign I should know? Sorry, I'm really zodiac illiterate. I mean, I'm not quite the virgin, but you already know that. :-*
Yes, what do the faces mean? Is there something about my sign I should know? Sorry, I'm really zodiac illiterate. I mean, I'm not quite the virgin, but you already know that. :-*
Each sign of the Zodiac is known as something. For example, Scorpio is a scorpion, Pisces is a fish, Capricorn is a goat, and Virgo is a virgin. I was teasing you. :-* ;D
Oh lord ... this means my mama's got the crabs :o
My Dearest Betty-
YOU, not a virgin? I have such a difficult time believing this...... :-*
Each sign of the Zodiac is known as something. For example, Scorpio is a scorpion, Pisces is a fish, Capricorn is a goat, and Virgo is a virgin. I was teasing you. :-* ;D
But it only happened once (sex)-when I was a stripper