HIV Query

[lkpozi]

Hello,

I had anal intercourse with another male on June 17th, i used a condom during this encounter. This person says that they are negative but, have not had a test in a year.
I also had anal intercourse with another male on July 8th, again i used a condom, there were two separate slippages of the condom however, both times i believe the condoms covered the urethra and only slipped halfway down my penis. This person also claimed to be negative and even on PrEP.

On July 12th i broke out with a bad rash on the trunk of my body (sebborrheic dermatitis, something i have had flare ups of in the past but not this bad) this lasted a week, although it occurred after a lot of stress and anxiety over my HIV status.

I had a finger prick test come up negative on July 19th (about 31 days after first encounter) and i am waiting until next week to go for a follow up test. What concerns me is that have been suffering with mild flare ups of my seb derm and a dry mouth for the past week. I am chronically stressed, anxious and depressed over this situation.

Any advice over my potential risk would be fantastic.

Thanks.

[Jim Allen]

The condom covered the head of your penis and HIV can not transmit through an intact condom. The condom riding up a bit is not how HIV is transmitted and the persons claimed HIV status is also irreverent, so you have no reason to specific reason to test, nothing you mentioned here was an exposure.

Also HIV does not give you a dry mouth and seborrheic dermatitis is very common regardless of HIV status, treat it as your normally would or see your GP for assistance

Move on with your life, continue to use condoms for any intercourse and test out of standard routine at least yearly for easier to transmit STI's & HIV. Also consider PrEP to provide an additional layer of HIV protection.

Jim

[lkpozi]

Thank you for your prompt reply, Jim. I have just one more question, i have read on a number of sites (NHS, CDC) that condom effectiveness at preventing HIV is actually around 80-90%. Are these just conservative statistics that act as more of a safeguard for the organisations?

Thanks.

[Jim Allen]

Context poor references particularly NHS that is not fit for purpose

HIV can not transmit through an intact condom, 100% however condoms can break, 10% due to mainly incorrect usage however when this happens during intercourse they shred leaving no doubt.

Your condom did not shred = no risk, move on

[lkpozi]

Sorry to return to this subject as the information i was provided was excellent. I wouldn’t post again if i wasn’t crippled with anxiety right now. I have been suffering with what i suspect to be dry eyes for the last 2-3 days, burning/itching/stinging without any plausible explanation. I am worried sick that its HIV causing this, despite the negligible risk i have been exposed too. There just doesn’t seem to be another plausible explanation.

Are dry eyes a symptom one would experience early on with HIV?

[Jim Allen]

Dry eyes are a symptom of reading too much nonsense online Now see your GP and treat whatever is making you sick.

There just doesn’t seem to be another plausible explanation.

HIV is not only the least plausible, its also just not possible if what you posted is the truth. You had no negligible risk from this encounter, you simply had no risk, so stop being dramatic.

I'm not going to pretend with you.

Jim

[Jim Allen]

Look HIV can not transmit through an intact condom. The condom riding up a bit is not how HIV is transmitted and the persons claimed HIV status is also irreverent, so you have no reason to specific reason to test, nothing you mentioned here was an exposure.

Can condoms break sure, and when they do during intercourse they shred leaving no doubt that did not happen to you, stop fantasizing otherwise.

The most common symptom of initial HIV infection is none whatsoever and you had no exposure and all the issues you have mentioned so far fir 100's of other issue but not HIV and as you had no exposure it can't be HIV   

Move on with your life, stop looking for an issue you don't have and stop reading rubbish online. The resources you mentioned well personally I would not let them treat my dog, let alone my HIV.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions.

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as ‘safe’ in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

More information on HIV Basics, PEP, TaSP and Transmission can be found through the links in my signature to our POZ pages, this includes information on HIV Testing

Kind regards

Jim

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[NeedAdvice21]

Hey there i have been browsing these forums and have yet to find an answer to a question i’ve been pondering.

If i test negative at 32 days (using what i believe was a 4th gen test) does that rule out any prior symptoms (a rash i had for a week) as being caused by seroconversion?

I understand that if i test outside of the window period i can still seroconvert, so i guess im asking, if i have seroconverted would i show up positive on a 4th gen test.

Thanks in advance.

[Ptrk3]

Work with your healthcare provider to determine when you test for HIV-antibodies should be considered conclusive.

Many experts suggest that testing for HIV-antibodies should be conducted six weeks after the potential risky event, then at 13 weeks past the event for confirmation of the six week results.

Questions about the specifics of the 4th gen test are best directed to your healthcare provider, though it is certainly good news that you have tested negative at 32 days since the event about which you are concerned.

[NeedAdvice21]

I am unsure of which test i took, but the healthcare provider advised me that the test was highly accurate at 4 weeks and 100% at 6 weeks. I was more wondering whether seroconversion would make me much more likely to test positive at that time?

I had a subsequent exposure that overlapped this window period, about 4 days before the rash showed up. I am correct in saying that 4 days would generally be too soon for symptoms to begin, yes?

[Jim Allen]

Look a negative result at 4 weeks post last exposure is highly accurate on a 4th gen test and will rarely change, now it is standard to test again at 13 weeks for a conclusive result to rule out outliers who take slightly longer to show up on tests.

Also I am not sure what the risk was? But ill presume condomless sex, so use a condom next time and also test for easier to transmit STI's

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions.

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as ‘safe’ in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

More information on HIV Basics, PEP, TaSP and Transmission can be found through the links in my signature to our POZ pages, this includes information on HIV Testing

Kind regards

Jim

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[NeedAdvice21]

Well i took it at an STD clinic in the UK so its likely it was 4th gen. Both times were actually unprotected oral and protected anal however, the second time i was a little drunk and there were condom malfunctions, i’m unsure whether the condom broke or slipped, i remember it hanging off of my penis when i pulled out, at which plint i removed the condom and stopped. They were durex extra safe condoms so i should probably assume they didnt break.

I wouldn’t be here if my symptoms werent so aggresive, i went from having mild barely noticeable seb derm to aggresive, pronounced seb derm shortly after the second incident. I had just returned from a months trip abroad when the original seb derm flare occured.

So is 4 days too early for ARS or not? i have read in some places it is but i would appreciate some input.

I understand this is my last free post, so thank you.

[Jim Allen]

Banned for good.


You had no HIV risk, also you know if you do ever have a risk regardless of the generation of antibodies test 13 weeks is conclusive

Seb derm has nothing to do with HIV and the most common symptom of initial hiv infection is non symptoms whatsoever.

Stop wasting my time, stop wasting your time, see a therapist if you can't move on