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Offline help450

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Risk, should I take pep??
« on: June 09, 2009, 12:00:50 am »
Brief unprotected with csw. Had all the sypmtoms. Non reactive ICMA antibody test 32 days post exposure and negative RNA by PCR 37 days post exposure.

Offline RapidRod

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Re: HIV Test Results, please help...
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2009, 12:07:45 am »
If it was unprotected anal or vaginal sex you can get your conclusive test result 12/13 weeks post exposure.

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Re: HIV Test Results, please help...
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2009, 12:11:01 am »
I understand that, but what about my test results thus far?

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Re: HIV Test Results, please help...
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2009, 04:51:10 am »
help,

Any negative result is a good result. The vast majority of people who have actually been infected will seroconvert and test postive by six weeks, with the average time to seroconversion being only 22 days. While I don't expect your results to change, you need to confirm that negative at three months.

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through all three condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple.

Ann
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anyone?
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2009, 08:41:08 am »
Hello. I had a very high risk exposure over 4 months ago. Two weeks after the exposure I had rash, diarreah, mouth sores, lowe back pain, joint stiffness, hives,etc. One month after exposure I have 3 symptoms  that persist till this date. Gingivitis, which I have never had before in my life, chronic sinusitis and a host of skin manifestations. One of my rashes the dermatolagist deemed a viral rash. My test results are

non reactive antibody at 32 days post
less than 50 copies RNA by PCR 37 days post
non reactive at 18 weeks post

What is going on???

Thank you.

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Re: anyone?
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2009, 09:26:13 am »
why is it that of the 2 people on this forum with any real risk or symptoms cant seem to get a response? anyone?

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Re: anyone?
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2009, 09:48:11 am »
help,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.

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why is it that of the 2 people on this forum with any real risk or symptoms cant seem to get a response? anyone?


We're not sitting here waiting breathlessly for new posts. We have lives too. I've been offline for an hour or so because there was an electrician in my house fixing something so the electricty was off. ::)

Regardless of whether or not you had a risk (you never did say what made you test), you are conclusively hiv negative. The window period is three months and you tested negative far outside that time-frame. You don't have hiv.

Whatever is going on with you has nothing to do with hiv as you do not have hiv. Work with your doctor to find out what is going on. Whatever it is, it is NOT hiv.

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Re: anyone?
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2009, 10:56:26 am »
what if air got in the test tubes, what if labcorp messed up my tests? My symptoms are way too coincedental. My pcr by rna test was done at an infectious disease clinic but that sat in the test tube for 2 days before it was  tested.

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Re: anyone?
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2009, 11:00:41 am »
what if air got in the test tubes, what if labcorp messed up my tests? My symptoms are way too coincedental. My pcr by rna test was done at an infectious disease clinic but that sat in the test tube for 2 days before it was  tested.
Let us know when you become a lab tech and you know more than the lab.

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Re: anyone?
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2009, 11:16:15 am »
help,

Screw-ups in the lab usually result in false POSITIVES, not negatives. That's certainly the case with PCR testing. If you had hiv, the RNA test would have picked it up at 37 days. It didn't pick anything up because YOU DON'T HAVE HIV!

There's absolutely NOTHING hiv specific about any of your physical troubles. They could be cause by any one of hundreds of illnesses or pathogens. Keep working with your doctor to find out what's going on. Whatever it is, it is NOT hiv.

If you read the Welcome Thread before posting like you're supposed to, you will have read the following posting guideline:

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Please consider yourself warned.

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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Risk, should I take pep??
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2010, 02:17:15 am »
I had an encounter at an asian spa. Protected oral, then protected vaginal for maybe 10 seconds, back to protected oral then finished with unrprotected hand-job. I am worried because condoms are not always safe. The oral before the vaginal was very rough and lasted forever, it could have damaged the condom and put me at risk for the brief time i was in there. I called an hiv doc today who is willing to prescribe PEP to me tom morning even though it will be past 6 hours past the 72 hour deadline. what should i do? please help.

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Re: Risk, should I take pep??
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2010, 03:23:33 am »
Help,

Once again, I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread. It doesn't matter how long it has been since you last posted in your thread or if the subject matter is different.

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You did not have a risk and you do not need to test. If the condom was damaged, it would have very obviously broke and you would have known.

You do NOT need PEP.

You do NOT need to test.

You had NO risk.

Ann
Condoms are a girl's best friend

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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Risk, should I take pep??
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2010, 11:59:52 am »
why would the doctor offer me pep then if there wasnt much or any risk?

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Re: Risk, should I take pep??
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2010, 12:51:44 pm »
We can't interpret why your doctor made that offer of PEP. We can only tell you that it is not warranted in your situation. Period.

I have known in the past for someone's extremely anxious state over HIV to prompt a doctor to offer PEP simply to ease their anxiety. I don't know if that was so in your particular case.

The bottom line for you is that you didn't do anything that put you at risk for HIV. Let it go and get on with your life.
Andy Velez

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Re: Risk, should I take pep??
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2010, 12:48:18 am »
He did say from a psychological standpoint he would prescribe it to me, the lowest level of pep which consists of one pill a day. But he also said that my encounter was not 100% safe.

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Re: Risk, should I take pep??
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2010, 04:13:22 am »
Find another doctor that knows what they are doing. You didn't have a risk and no doctor that knew anything about HIV and nPEP would give you nPEP just for a psychological standpoint.

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Re: Risk, should I take pep??
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2010, 07:54:10 am »
It sounds to me as if he was responding to your emotional upset about the issue.

However, let's not get into a discussion interpreting why he did that.

The point is you did not have a risk for HIV. Period. You don't need PEP. You do need to let go of this unwarranted concern and get on with your life. There's really nothing more we can say to you here.

This is not an HIV situation.
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Re: Risk, should I take pep??
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2010, 06:42:08 pm »
Help

As you have already been told by 3 of our experts you are HIV negative, I have no idea why your Doctor would prescribe you PEP, you don't want to be taking these Meds unless it's absolutely necessary, you don't need to take them..trust me it's a very unpleasant experience.

Jan
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