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Author Topic: Another "fingering with nasty hangnail" story  (Read 10025 times)

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Offline bren007

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Another "fingering with nasty hangnail" story
« on: December 09, 2013, 12:54:08 pm »
Dear all,

I am just another guy who made a huge mistake after drinking too much, and now he is worried to death, spending his last 2-3 days reading forums, trying to find out if he really needs to worry or can let the thing go. So please forgive me if this or a similar question was asked before, but I have a feeling I can only calm down if someone tells me directly that my worry is needless (if so). Also, pls pardon my English, not a native speaker.

I fingered a prostitute (probably) for about a minute, nothing else happened. The next morning I felt terrible about that, I never really had anything with a prostitute before. I then realized that because I am a nail biter and I do not only bite my nails but the skin on the tip of my fingers, I might have been exposed to HIV, so I did some research... Although most forums say that the risk of fingering with a hangnail is negligible (with some theoretical risk given), because my wounds on my fingers are not just regular hangnails, but nastier, deeper, and probably bigger I still have a fear. Thankfully the finger I used was not in its worst condition when the thing happened, it had a 2x2mm wound (from biting the skin off) in the corner of my nail. I don't know the time when I bit the skin off, I usually do not notice when I do that, so it could have been just 10 mins before the thing. It wasn't bleeding whatsoever, neither when the wound was fresh, nor during fingering, still that part of my finger was probably pretty sensitive (these wounds are usually pretty sensitive to water, when squeezing lemon juice, etc.), it looked a bit like this only one third of the size (not bleeding!): http://s24.postimg.org/tzrne55w5/hangnails.jpg
(this is not my hand, I found it on Google to provide a reference)

I also touched the outer skin (lips?) of her vagina with my mouth for 2-3 seconds but I guess that doesn't mean any risk.

My question is obviously: do I need to worry? The hangnail could have been hours old but also minutes old as well, without the needed protecting layer formed on it.

Thank you in advance for your help!
« Last Edit: December 09, 2013, 01:03:51 pm by bren007 »

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Re: Another "fingering with nasty hangnail" story
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2013, 01:05:54 pm »
Fingering is not a risk for HIV . HIV if present resides deep in the vagina in a mucosa near the cervix, the fluids a woman makes when excited comes from a gland near the opening of the vagina and isn't infectious for HIV, so no risk in fingering . 

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED HIV TESTING AT THIS TIME for this incident , anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than HIV. Some of the other STDs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid HIV infection. It really is that simple!   
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Re: Another "fingering with nasty hangnail" story
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2013, 01:12:09 pm »
Thanks Jeff - I read before that the infectious fluid is present at the cervix only, but...

- what if i reached deep? i cannot remember how deep i reached.
- couldn't the fluid get downer in the vagina, reachable with finger when a lot of fluid is being produced when excited
« Last Edit: December 09, 2013, 01:22:04 pm by bren007 »

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Re: Another "fingering with nasty hangnail" story
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2013, 01:24:52 pm »
Thanks Jeff - I read before that the infectious fluid is present at the cervix only, but...

- what if i reached deep? i cannot remember how deep i reached.
- couldn't the fluid get downer in the vagina, reachable with finger when a lot of fluid is being produced when excited

There are too many obstacles other than what I went over already ... the skin cells in your fingers are not what HIV likes so give it up man . You do not want to be known as the man who got HIV from touching a vagina and you wont be because HIV is not transmitted in that manner . 
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Re: Another "fingering with nasty hangnail" story
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2013, 02:26:29 am »
Thanks again - really appreciate what you, Ann and Andy do on this forum.

One last remark. I did test together with my longterm partner before, both negative, and I've never been with anyone else since apart from her. Now that this incident happened (that obviously she doesn't know about), do you think it's worth to test for her safety? (note: not simple fingering, but with nasty hangnail)

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Re: Another "fingering with nasty hangnail" story
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2013, 05:06:03 am »
Thanks again - really appreciate what you, Ann and Andy do on this forum.

One last remark. I did test together with my longterm partner before, both negative, and I've never been with anyone else since apart from her. Now that this incident happened (that obviously she doesn't know about), do you think it's worth to test for her safety? (note: not simple fingering, but with nasty hangnail)
As Jeff has already advised you, you never had an exposure by fingering.

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Re: Another "fingering with nasty hangnail" story
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2015, 09:33:13 am »
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Re: Another "fingering with nasty hangnail" story
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2015, 06:11:14 am »
hi,

this is another case, but according to the forum rules i will post my question in this thread i opened a while ago.

about 2 months ago i joined a couple for a mmf sex, and ever since i cannot escape from the thought of having caught hiv... when they started the intercourse i started teasing the lady and got some of her fluid on my hand. i really cannot tell if it was only her fluids and the guys precum too... seconds after i started touching my penis (probably the tip of it also) with a vast amount of fluid. she also did unprotected oral on me. do i need to worry for the following:
- her and his fluids getting in touch with my penis (probably tip too)
- unproteced insterive oral for about 10 mins with ejaculation.

no vaginal/anal penetration was involved from my side.

thanks.

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Re: Another "fingering with nasty hangnail" story
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2015, 07:46:16 am »
Sexual fluids are NOT infectious for HIV once outside the body ... as I told you already, Fingering is not a risk for HIV . HIV if present resides deep in the vagina in a mucosa near the cervix, the fluids a woman makes when excited comes from a gland near the opening of the vagina and isn't infectious for HIV, so no risk in fingering . No risk in fingering or mutual masturbation.

Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is primarily transmitted INSIDE the human body, as in UNPROTECTED anal or vaginal intercourse where the virus never leaves the confines of the two bodies. Once hiv finds itself outside the body, small changes in temperature, and pH and moisture levels all quickly damage the virus and render it unable to infect.

You did not have a risk or a need to test in this incident.
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Re: Another "fingering with nasty hangnail" story
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2015, 10:32:38 am »
thanks Jeff for your prompt response. you refer to only her fluids, but not his precum that might also have been present when i was touching the girl's vagina, as they were in the middle of an unprotected intercourse - sorry for the details. do i get it right that neither vaginal fluid nor precum is a risk of getting on my penis from my hand?

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Re: Another "fingering with nasty hangnail" story
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2015, 10:43:32 am »
No risk, no risk,no risk...

Let it go and get on with your life.
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Re: Another "fingering with nasty hangnail" story
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2015, 11:01:12 am »
All fluids are covered under this fact.

Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is primarily transmitted INSIDE the human body, as in UNPROTECTED anal or vaginal intercourse where the virus never leaves the confines of the two bodies. Once hiv finds itself outside the body, small changes in temperature, and pH and moisture levels all quickly damage the virus and render it unable to infect.
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