Precum outside the condom

[Panayotis02]

Hello guys, thank you for accepting me in your company 😊

I'm 19 years old and i had my two first gay sexual experiences. Back in October, i gave a blowjob without ejaculation to a guy, without protection and i tested negative after 3, 4 and 5 months with 4th gen test. I'm trying to forget about that and move on.
A month ago, i met online an older guy than me, and i gave him oral sex with condom (i took my lesson) and without ejaculation. Then my phone rung, i left from the bed and i came back 3 minutes later. He told me that he had lubricated the condom so don't put my mouth on it and we continued with protected anal sex (i was the bottom). Before he ejaculated, he pulled out and then i tested the condom with water and i saw that it didn't have break. Few days later i learned that this guy was hiv positive and i'm worry because i think that he may put the condom inside out when i left to talk to the phone, in order to contract me hiv from the precum may existed outside the condom (there was no ejaculation until then). Essentially, it was my first complete sexual experience and i'm worry. Also, he kissed me deep a lot and i sucked his testicles.
 I tested today (30 days) with 4th gen test and i'll have the results on Thursday. Is there any possibility to contract hiv in this way? With precum on the outside surface of the condom?

I would like to hear your opinion. Thank you guys for this amazing forum, it helps a lot. Thank you.

[Jim Allen]

Hiya.

he kissed me deep a lot and i sucked his testicles.

to contract me hiv from the precum may existed outside the condom

Precum on the outside of the condom would not be an HIV risk. Kissing and sucking his testicles would also not be an HIV concern.

Back in October, i gave a blowjob without ejaculation to a guy, without protection and i tested negative after 3, 4 and 5 months with 4th gen test.

A month ago, i met online an older guy than me, and i gave him oral sex with condom (i took my lesson) and without ejaculation.

Look there are of course other STI's to worry about from giving a blowjob but thankfully in terms of HIV, giving a blowjob, the mouth generally lacks a route for HIV to infect, even if you had gaping holes in your mouth like meth mouth saliva also acts to neutralize HIV by damaging the receptors needed to infect human cells.

Even without a condom, it's such a minute HIV risk that we don't even recommend specifically testing over it.

He told me that he had lubricated the condom so don't put my mouth on it and we continued with protected anal sex (i was the bottom). Before he ejaculated, he pulled out and then i tested the condom with water and i saw that it didn't have break.

HIV can't transmit through an intact latex or polyurethane condom if a condom fails during the act of intercourse. There is no reason to be stressing about intercourse as long as this obvious issue did not happen.

Testing the condom after intercourse could damage the condom. They aren't designed to be reusable (re-stressable), and testing them could lead you to mistakenly thinking the condom was damaged during sex, when in fact, you caused the damage after the intercourse by trying to "test" it with water. In short, testing the condom yourself before or after use is not a reliable way to tell you anything.

Testing condoms yourself is a step shy of paranoia if you ask me. Instead, use condoms correctly and consistently.


Here's what you need to know to avoid HIV infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions. Consider talking to your health care provider about taking PrEP going forward as an additional layer of HIV protection.

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as ‘safe’ in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

Kind regards

Jim

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[Jim Allen]

Regarding condoms, Condom Usage in short:

What you need to know about condoms is that latex or polyurethane are effective barriers against HIV. HIV can't transmit through the intact barrier.

To reduce the odds of having a condom break during intercourse:

Use approved condoms, check for a certification mark (FDA, CE, ISO or Kitemark) as it means the condom complies with safety standards. Check the expiry date and make sure the condom is still within date.

Use lubricant, condom safe water-based lubricants makes condoms more comfortable and reduces the risk of breakage. – but avoid oil-based lubricants as they can weaken or break condoms.

As for putting the condom on correctly:

Incorrectly done, the risk of breakage can increase. Place the condom on top of the erect penis and pinch the teat at the end of the condom before you start to roll it down the penis. By doing this, you'll squeeze out any air bubbles and ensure there is room for the semen (cum). Roll the condom down to the base of the penis.

If it's on correctly, it will roll downwards easily. If you've started putting it on the wrong way, take it off, and even if you or your partner has not ejaculated (cum), there can still be semen or (pre-cum), so it's important to try again with a new condom. (More to do with risks from other STI's than anything else)

Finally, Any sexual contact comes with risks of STI's, no need to panic though, just use condoms to help reduce those risks and keeps in mind that the levels of protection for various STI's depends greatly on differences in how the diseases or infections infect.

For example, some infections (Not HIV) are transmitted primarily by skin-to-skin contact, which may infect areas not covered by a condom, such as genital herpes, human papillomavirus [HPV] infection, chancroid etc.

As said no need to panic each time you have sex. Just use condoms to reduce your STI risks, consider talking to your healthcare provider about PrEP as an additional layer against HIV and test out of routine at least yearly for STI's.

[Panayotis02]

Before he ejaculated, he pulled out and then i tested the condom with water and i saw that it didn't have break.

Sorry i didn't said it correctly. I mean that he pulls out (with condom on) , he cums in the condom and after the intercourse i tested the condom with water. In the end. Do you think is pranoid/useless?

Thank you very much for your reply, i really appreciate that!😊 I have learned a lot of things here that our parents/ or school never told us.

[Jim Allen]

Sorry i didn't said it correctly. I mean that he pulls out (with condom on) , he cums in the condom and after the intercourse i tested the condom with water. In the end. Do you think is pranoid/useless?

Yes, I do feel it useless & paranoid.

Thank you very much for your reply, i really appreciate that!😊 I have learned a lot of things here that our parents/ or school never told us.

You're welcome. 

[Panayotis02]

Hi Jim, 
I hope you are fine.

Yeterday,, i got the 4th gen test results. which was done on 30th days post exposure and it was negative. However i have a lot swollen lymph nodes on the neck. If you were me, would you be anxious about the situtation? (based on what i have written to you above).

Thank you Jim.

[Jim Allen]

If you were me, would you be anxious about the situation?

No, most of what you posted was no HIV concern and the only minute HIV risk mentioned that did not warrant testing you had already previously tested negative over.

So move on with your life, unless there are other encounters or activities not mentioned here. Keep in mind to test out of standard routine at least yearly for STI's & HIV.