Can two HIV partners with no viral load safely have sex without condom?

[Jeff G]

It really isn't.  It's kind of like being in heaven.  If you are going to go with one extreme I will go with another.

I will go in between then ... its like being in purgatory and needing a Kleenex .

[LiveWithIt]

I will go in between then ... its like being in purgatory and needing a Kleenex .

You only need a kleenex if it leaks out or you're not hungry.   

[Miss Philicia]

It really isn't.  It's kind of like being in heaven.  If you are going to go with one extreme I will go with another.

I can prove my statement. However, you can't prove that heaven exists. Therefore, I win at this little internet game.

[jkinatl2]

Taking a raw load of cum is kind of like someone blowing their nose and wiping it on your face.

Which to some of us is a fetish for which we are not ashamed.

[leatherman]

Is superinfection possible, maybe.

there's no "maybe" to this one. There is such as a thing as "superinfection"; however the people that have dealt with this were people who had high viral loads (some were not on meds and some had only recently started meds)

[Miss Philicia]

When I first moved to NYC I used to trick with the Puerto Rican drug dealer from the street corner (I know... shocking) and every time after he came he jumped up and ran to the shower. He found body fluids shocking.

[Jeff G]

When I first moved to NYC I used to trick with the Puerto Rican drug dealer from the street corner (I know... shocking) and every time after he came he jumped up and ran to the shower. He found body fluids shocking.

I dated a guy like that once for a half hour , never caught the guys name though . 

[LM]

Taking a raw load of cum is kind of like someone blowing their nose and wiping it on your face.

Haha, and you're saying you don't like it? The first one, that is.

[Miss Philicia]

Haha, and you're saying you don't like it? The first one, that is.

I'm sure I'd enjoy your load -- it probably has hints of guava nectar.

But seriously, if you remove the psychological hotness of sex, it's basically as I described it. Imagine eroticizing someone spewing bronchial sputum all over your supple torso.

[jkinatl2]

I'm sure I'd enjoy your load -- it probably has hints of guava nectar.

But seriously, if you remove the psychological hotness of sex, it's basically as I described it. Imagine eroticizing someone spewing bronchial sputum all over your supple torso.

Though I prefer to think of it as "greedily accepting the life essence of another in order to stay young" I see your point.

[Jeff G]

Whats the proper term for this fetish Flembagger or Flembugger ?

[denb45]

Were all such carbon-based life forms aren't we, everywhere we go and what ever we do, we always leave life's imprint somewhere or on somebody

"Life is messy clean it up"  lol


Hugs

DEN 

[LM]

I'm sure I'd enjoy your load -- it probably has hints of guava nectar.

But seriously, if you remove the psychological hotness of sex, it's basically as I described it. Imagine eroticizing someone spewing bronchial sputum all over your supple torso.

Gotta love the Latin flavor. 

But yuck for the 2nd part.

Though I prefer to think of it as "greedily accepting the life essence of another in order to stay young" I see your point.

Since this process gave me HIV and that might make me "old" faster, it may not be very accurate. But it's a beautiful way of putting it.   

PS: Edit for spelling

[wolfter]

So what is the final answer? ; I quit reading it all.  It was doing further damage to my already AIDSY brain.  As someone famous once quoted; "let them eat cum"!

My doctor discussed this all with me a while back.  He indicated there's not enough of a real risk to call it a risk. He did caution about other infections.  I'd personally have no problems with barebacking with another pozzie. 

Wolfie

[Miss Philicia]

Whats the proper term for this fetish Flembagger or Flembugger ?

WE REPORT, YOU DECIDE

[drewm]

WE REPORT, YOU DECIDE

OH HELL YES!!!!!!!! 

[mecch]

Is superinfection possible, maybe.  There are people naturally immune to HIV so anything is possible.  Are there guys out there taking raw loads and not taking their medications.  Yes.  Is there a new superinfection epidemic.  No.

Just wondering:  isn't the fetishization of sperm another great way to act on misinformation and ignore facts?  Rather like that blogger's anthropomorphic notions about the HIV virus lead him to useless worries and actions. 

[Rockin]

I really hope that the next HIV- guy I date will have no desire to take my load...'cause he will never be able to. Here's hoping he's like Miss Philicia.

And yeah, I do think about these things from time to time.