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Author Topic: Positive rapid test at home , negative 4gen Elisa at lab , need advice .  (Read 710 times)

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Hello friends, first of all I would like to thank you for all the advice you guys give to people in this forum, I am 27 years old I live in Brazil and I am a heterosexual man, last year I had several unprotected vaginal intercourse, in September I had a rash all body for 1 day then only my forearm  no fever , after that i had a very strong sore throat infection and several strange symptoms together(peeling palm, athletes foot) at the time I did not appreciate it and did not test for STI, I started dating in October and my girlfriend had a rash on the inside of her arm and chest where the bra is after some time with me, she said it was because of the sweat with soap on her clothes , her right hand and her feet started to peel. which generated an alarm in me and a feeling of guilt for possibly passing something to her, she has two palpable lymph nodes in the neck round submandibular the size of a small grape, I have palpable lymph nodes in the neck submandibular 2cmx1cm(ultrassound done) after that infection in september that did not went alway

Anyway. after 6 months of the last risk relationship I did the rapid blood test which showed the first stripe at the time that the blood with the reagent passed and the second stripe afterwards(positive), after a while only the second stripe was left (time for reading the result) i dunno if i put more reagent that i should

I did an Elisa 4g lab exam and the result was 0.05 non-reactive for hiv gp42 gp120 and p24

as i was so desperate that i also made a cd4 that  same day and the result was CD4 853, 41.5%

from your experience, even with palpable lymph nodes on her and my neck and these strange symptoms. is the 4g lab test more reliable than the quick test at home ?? can these pharmacy tests give false positive ?? Thank you very much in advance.

(the test was Chemiluminescence Abbot)

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Hi Jim , Thanks for you reply. i Had a lot of unprotected vaginal sex with diferent girls last year , the last time unprotected was in June 7 weeks before i had the symptons i described , me and my girlfriend only have unprotected sex . she tested negative before dating me . my lab test that turned out neg was 30/01/2021  the rapid test was 29/01/2021 (im since octuber in a monogamous relationship) i was open with my GF about not testing and afraid , she was suportive and not concerned after the negative lab test. but im still afraid.

What do you think Jim? these palpable nodes submandibular are normal?? have you ever heard about peeling soles and palms as a seroconversion sympton? , the poz rapid test line apear right alway and then fades? .

can i trust the lab result ( ISO certificated lab ) and the CD4 852 41,5% are normal for HIV - ?

Thanks for you excelent job here advising plp
« Last Edit: March 11, 2021, 03:59:48 pm by Brunder93 »

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The CD4 count is irrelevant, a waste of time and money. None of the symptoms mentioned has anything to do with HIV from your risks back in June, and you did not acquire HIV from those encounters.

Do keep in mind to test for other far easier to acquire STI's not just HIV
and work with your doctor to treat whatever is making you ill.

Regarding your GF, if you engage in condomless sex with your GF, then you are obviously at risk. Often within relationships, condomless sex is based on trust or past test results. However, this does not prevent HIV, and any condomless intercourse is accepting the greater risk of acquiring HIV.

If you do choose to engage in condomless intercourse, consider testing more frequently for HIV and far easier to acquire STI's. As a sexually active adult, it's would be recommended to test at least out of routine at least yearly for HIV & STI's.


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Offline Brunder93

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Thanks again for your reply

Is the rapid test irrelevant then with the negative laboratory Elisa 4g?

Can I be sure that I am Negative even with palpable lymph nodes and my girlfriend too?

I also tested negative for all STIs, positive only for EBV and CMV igg

We are in a monogamous relationship (we live together and work at home office 99% of the time together) and she certainly did not have HIV, she tested negative shortly before she met me.


From your experience, can I close the case and get on with my life?

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Hiya.

The negative ELISA means you did not acquire HIV from June exposure.

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Can I be sure that I am Negative even with palpable lymph nodes and my girlfriend too?

I also tested negative for all STIs, positive only for EBV and CMV igg

We are in a monogamous relationship (we live together and work at home office 99% of the time together) and she certainly did not have HIV, she tested negative shortly before she met me.


From your experience, can I close the case and get on with my life?

Already answered. If you engage in condomless sex with your GF, then you are obviously at risk. Often within relationships, condomless sex is based on trust or past test results. However, this does not prevent HIV, and any condomless intercourse is accepting the greater risk of acquiring HIV.

If you do choose to engage in condomless intercourse, consider testing more frequently for HIV and far easier to acquire STI's. As a sexually active adult, it's would be recommended to test at least out of routine at least yearly for HIV & STI's.



HIV 101 - Everything you need to know
HIV 101
Read more about Testing here:
HIV Testing
Read about Treatment-as-Prevention (TasP) here:
HIV TasP
You can read about HIV prevention here:
HIV prevention
Read about PEP and PrEP here
PEP and PrEP

 


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