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Unprotected Oral, STIs and HIV
« on: May 06, 2016, 04:04:37 am »
Hi guys!

So last week, I had two dates with the same guy, having one day apart from each date. This was my first 'real date' with a guy, so I didn't expect anything to go far.

 I have tested negative twice for all STIs including HIV twice late last year, and never had engaged in any type of sex or sexual contact since then(Yes, not even kissing).
Long story short, we got to kissing and later we both gave and received oral from eachother.

When time came to give the oral, I did not take more than a few minutes (3-5 minutes tops) as then I jacked him off until, therefore, there was no ejaculation in the mouth (not sure about pre-cum, but I doubt it since I finished him off by jacking). Between oral we kissed. He gave the oral for approximately the same time. There was no penetration in either times.

He didn't have any sores or cuts on the penis, it all looked perfectly normal (but I wear prescription glasses, took them off for the occasion so I could have POSSIBLY missed a few details), seemed to have good oral health too. Everything mentioned was without the use of protection.

I didn't feel, or see any mouth sores and my overall oral health is very good, I brushed my teeth a couple of hours before the date (10 hours?) but used mouthwash 1.5 / 2 hours before the date.
Both dates went similarly to each other.

We talked briefly about STDs. He said that he tested negative for both Syphillis and HIV December 2014, said that he very rarely engages in anal, and when it happened it's always protected.

I do not have any symptoms, 9 days later, except for what seems to be enlarged papillae at the back of my tongue on the side (both sides, left more than right)... I have taken pictures which clearly show the lumps:

Taken 3rd May:
Taken 5th May:

(EDIT by Jim - I looked but removed the pics as it slows down the thread)

Gums and lips look perfectly normal.

Taking into conciderstion the facts I gave above, should I be worried of contracting an STI or HIV from these 2 experiences and what are the chances?

I did make an appointment at the GUM Clinic next week (2 weeks after the last date)

Appreciate your time to read and answer my concerns!
Thank you!
« Last Edit: May 06, 2016, 04:25:38 am by DevPiePew »

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Re: Unprotected Oral, STIs and HIV
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2016, 04:14:32 am »
Hi

The virus is very fragile, and your mouth has dozens of protein and enzymes that damage the virus and render it unable to infect.  You do not need to run out and test or to worry each time you give a BJ.

When and if he tested is not important. Know your own status and focus on practicing safer sex to keep it that way, also get tested at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV.

The symptoms and pictures you took are not HIV related and if you are sick speak to your GP so they can find out what is the cause.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:
You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions. As you are sexually active, it is highly recommended that you get a full sexual health check-up / screening at least annually including but not limited to hiv testing.

Remember that some sexual practices which may be described as ‘safe’ in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's. So please do get fully tested regularly for all STI's including HIV and more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs. Also note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

Finally use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, to avoid sexually transmitted hiv infection.

Kind regards

Jim

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Re: Unprotected Oral, STIs and HIV
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2016, 04:21:07 am »
Hi Jim,

First of all thank you so much for the fast account approval and rapid reply, I really appreciate.

I am not sick, at least at the moment I am not, I noticed those lumps just because I checked the area as I am obsessed over transmittable diseases such as STIs and HIV, they do not cause any pain, and don't feel that they are there.

Must say that I have been a little worried, also think that I might be over reacting a little too much, since I think that this was a very low risk encounter?

Thanks again!

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Re: Unprotected Oral, STIs and HIV
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2016, 04:27:46 am »
Yes, in terms of HIV you are worrying for no reason.

Nothing mentioned stood out as a risk. If you had had gaping wounds, or advanced gum disease or suffered from meth-head it would have been a different story but you don't.

In your case my advice is to move on and to continue practicing safer sex, get tested at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV.

Jim
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Re: Unprotected Oral, STIs and HIV
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2016, 12:05:03 pm »
Hi again,

So today I went in for my appointment at the GUM Clinic, everything went well, will be having my results in 7 days (maybe less).

I forgot to mention that I take Levocetirizine (Brand name: Xyzal) for my allergies, I skipped it this morning since I was going in for a blood test and urine test, but I did take a dose yesterday.

Will Levocetirizine affect the outcome of the test in any way?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Unprotected Oral, STIs and HIV
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2016, 12:10:13 pm »
No this would not effect the outcome of a HIV test.
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Re: Unprotected Oral, STIs and HIV
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2021, 06:17:49 am »
Hi Jim,

I had a similar exposure to the one above, with the some differences. I am not sure of the other guy’s status. He says he is negative but his last testing date was July 2020.

a) I had a dentist appointment for routine scaling (cleaning) 6 hours before this encounter occured. I didn’t have any noticable bleeding, but I could have had some cuts or some kind of irritation. Would this increase my risk is any way?

b) The encounter lasted more than the one mentioned in my previous posts

I am extremely worried to the point that I am not sleeping and have been having major anxiety. Am I needlessly worried?

Thank you
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Re: Unprotected Oral, STIs and HIV
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2021, 06:27:32 am »
Hiya.

Yeah, you are stressing for no good reason.

Same as in 2016, It's a minute risk as the mouth is a hostile environment. So you do not need to run out and test or worry about HIV each time you give a BJ, just get tested whenever next normally due.

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Re: Unprotected Oral, STIs and HIV
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2021, 06:29:15 am »
Thank you for the reply Jim.

So the tooth scaling appointment that I had 6 hours before the encounter does not make any difference?

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Re: Unprotected Oral, STIs and HIV
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2021, 06:30:57 am »
Hiya.

As said, you do not need to run out and test or worry about HIV each time you give a BJ, just get tested whenever next normally due.
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Re: Unprotected Oral, STIs and HIV
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2021, 02:55:05 pm »
Hi Jim,

Thank you for your answers.

Do psychiatric drugs such as flupentixol, trazodone and Sedoxil (brand name) affect test results in any way?

This has been the only worrying sexual encounter that I had, and as I have mentioned before has had me worried over the possibility of HIV.

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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2021, 03:03:06 pm »
Hiya

They would not.

Now I am sorry that you are still stressing about this. The assessment will not change, though, as I will not pretend or entertain that the activities you posted so far warrant HIV concern or testing outside of routine.

I've given you a risk assesment and provided safer sex guidelines. There is nothing more to say on the topic. So if you post again about concerns related to this particular encounter/activity, it will be considered excessive and result in a 28-day ban.

Here's what you need to know to avoid HIV infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions. Consider talking to your health care provider about taking PrEP going forward as an additional layer of HIV protection.

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as ‘safe’ in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

Kind regards

Jim

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