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Author Topic: Candida and Carnivore Diet  (Read 14268 times)

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Offline ZachR

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Candida and Carnivore Diet
« on: October 11, 2019, 08:20:04 am »
Hi everyone,

I have been struggling with brain fog and flatulence along with neuropsychiatric symptoms and joint cracks. Since the 10th day I contracted HIV, I've had a white coating on my tongue. I attributed my symptoms to my meds, but everytime I do something to clear the candida like probiotics or cinnnamon my tongue gets cleared and my symptoms ease very much. I am probably already notorious here for trying to fix everything with the diet, but has anyone tried the carnivore diet that is so much touted against autoimmunity and depressive symptoms?
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Re: Candida and Carnivore Diet
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2019, 09:13:07 am »
Hiya

So it's reoccurring thrush? Have you talked to the doc about this? Perhaps next time it flares up go see them

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Offline ZachR

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Re: Candida and Carnivore Diet
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2019, 11:25:20 am »
Yes, it's a recurrent thrush, but, seemingly it doesn't progress nor does it heal, been this way for over a year now. It seems like it's the new balance between my immune system and commensal microorganisms after the major shift following primary HIV infection.
I didn't tell my doctor about it, because I thought that I might sound kind of hypochondriac-y, but it is not the way it should be, I guess. I'll tell him next time.
25.10.19 VL 43
26.05.19  CD4+ 685 %26 VL 55
27.03.19  CD4+ 850 %31 VL 24
***Switched to Biktarvy due to side effects.
25.02.19  CD4+ 740 %30 VL 78
15.01.19  CD4+ 1600(might be wrong) %0.7 VL 54
05.11.18  CD4+ 720 VL 1,100
17.09.18  CD4+ 962 %25 VL 14,000,000 - Started first regimen on Triumeq
15.07.18 - diagnosed, CD4+ 490 %20
20.04.18 - infected

https://ibb.co/X74GV0X

Offline J.R.E.

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Re: Candida and Carnivore Diet
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2019, 04:39:25 pm »
Hi There,..

Keep mentioning this to your doctor.  Do you smoke and drink alcohol ?  If so. you really need to stop both., and then watch and see, if the candida clears up. You should probably also avoid any sugary drinks etc. I also believe your doctor can scrape the tongue, to confirm it is indeed candida.

Never tried the canivore diet.  Also, probiotics alone, will not treat the Candida. You need medication, ( Candida and thrush is an infection) if you have never been on these medications, you will need to get a prescription.

Check the link below for medications available. As someone who has dealt in the past with Thrush and severe esophageal thrush,  I know how unpleasant this is for you.

My advice, get a confirmed diagnosis from your Doc, and get on the medication that deals with this. don't smoke, don't drink, no sugary drinks, If you do get on medications, take the medications as directed, and DON'T skip or miss doses. Continue with medications until this is cleared up. If you need to get a refill do so quickly before finishing up your medication.

Good luck, hope this clears up for you ! 

Ray

Here's a link from POZ :

https://www.poz.com/basics/hiv-basics/candidiasis-thrush-yeast-infection

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Offline J.R.E.

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Re: Candida and Carnivore Diet
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2019, 04:49:26 pm »


By the way, When I had mouth thrush and esophageal candidia, DIFLUCAN, is what got rid of it completely for me. Some may require an additional medication to help get rid of it. I may have been on that medication, for three weeks or so, until it was completely gone.

The second time I got it ( shortly after starting on meds ) I did DIFLUCAN again, And it cured it again.  Haven't had it since around January of 2004. So, It's been around 15 years. thrush free !!

Ray
Current Meds ; Viramune / Epzicom Eliquis, Diltiazem. Pravastatin 80mg, Ezetimibe. UPDATED 2/18/24
 Tested positive in 1985,.. In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started on  HAART on October 24th, 2003.

 UPDATED: As of April, 2nd 2024,Viral load Undetectable.
CD 4 @593 /  CD4 % @ 18 %

Lymphocytes,total-3305 (within range)

cd4/cd8 ratio -0.31

cd8 %-57

72 YEARS YOUNG

Offline harleymc

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Re: Candida and Carnivore Diet
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2019, 10:44:16 pm »
You could try all the stuff with eating an unbalanced diet to temporarily supress the symptoms of candida but it won't make it go away.

People were trying this approach all through the eighties and nineties to do what your trying to do. Didn't work then, no reason to think it'll work now.

Go to a doctor, get it treated with Diflucan.

Offline ZachR

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Re: Candida and Carnivore Diet
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2019, 05:58:03 am »
Thank you for the advice guys.
 Saw my doctor 3 days ago, and he said that I have a non-severe case of chronic thrush and wasn't willing to treat it, but I insisted that I have severe symptoms and upon this, actually after a year of repeating this, they finally decided to run a stool test which came back positive for a common parasite. Got metronidazole for 10days, today is day 2 on it and my neurological and anxiety symptoms are definitely gone, but I feel like hit by a truck, so sleepy, might br the antibiotic. Interestingly the thrush cleared on its own, cuz they didn't give me antifubgals. Metronidazole doesn't kill Candida, right?
25.10.19 VL 43
26.05.19  CD4+ 685 %26 VL 55
27.03.19  CD4+ 850 %31 VL 24
***Switched to Biktarvy due to side effects.
25.02.19  CD4+ 740 %30 VL 78
15.01.19  CD4+ 1600(might be wrong) %0.7 VL 54
05.11.18  CD4+ 720 VL 1,100
17.09.18  CD4+ 962 %25 VL 14,000,000 - Started first regimen on Triumeq
15.07.18 - diagnosed, CD4+ 490 %20
20.04.18 - infected

https://ibb.co/X74GV0X

Offline J.R.E.

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Re: Candida and Carnivore Diet
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2019, 06:34:25 pm »

 they finally decided to run a stool test which came back positive for a common parasite. Got metronidazole for 10days, today is day 2 on it and my neurological and anxiety symptoms are definitely gone, but I feel like hit by a truck, so sleepy, might br the antibiotic. Interestingly the thrush cleared on its own, cuz they didn't give me antifubgals. Metronidazole doesn't kill Candida, right?

Never been on Metronidazole.  Looks as though ( From Reading ) that it goes after specific infections.

" It works by stopping the growth of bacteria and protozoa.This antibiotic only treats bacterial and protozoal infections "

Just guessing,  I wonder if what is being treated may be responsible for the reoccurring thrush. Once again, Only guessing ( No Doctor Here).

Let us know how your doing after you are through with the Metronidazole.

Ray
Current Meds ; Viramune / Epzicom Eliquis, Diltiazem. Pravastatin 80mg, Ezetimibe. UPDATED 2/18/24
 Tested positive in 1985,.. In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started on  HAART on October 24th, 2003.

 UPDATED: As of April, 2nd 2024,Viral load Undetectable.
CD 4 @593 /  CD4 % @ 18 %

Lymphocytes,total-3305 (within range)

cd4/cd8 ratio -0.31

cd8 %-57

72 YEARS YOUNG

Offline xrel0aded

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Re: Candida and Carnivore Diet
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2019, 06:33:46 pm »
You should either completely eliminate or drastically reduce your meat and dairy intake altogether. Generally speaking it will do wonders for your mental and physical health and will lower your risk of other diseases such as cancer, heart and cardiovascular disease, diabetes, etc. For candida, you should be eating seaweed, nuts and seeds, leafy greens and non starchy vegetables.

Offline xrel0aded

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Re: Candida and Carnivore Diet
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2020, 06:27:42 pm »
I should add, my partners sister had candida and cervical hpv and was able to completely eliminate her candida and reverse her precancerous cells from her cervical hpv by going vegan. Yes, eating meat can help with candida because it's starving the yeast of sugars which are needed for the candida to thrive, but the amount of cholesterol and saturated fats you'll consume are terrible and will increase your BP, cholesterol and clog your arteries.

 


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