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Unprotected oral and symptoms
« on: October 23, 2021, 05:11:39 pm »
Hello to all.
I visited an Asian massage parlor. Female worker started to give me unprotected oral but I stopped it after a few seconds. Jumped up and washed.  Felt ok for a few weeks.  Then one month afterwards, got hit with a congestion headache and red throat. So stressed, had a slight rash of small red spots that promptly went away. Diarrhea for one day. Temp a little off but thatís it. So Iím freaked out. Went back to massage place and was assured girl was routinely checked. Yeah right. Got a finger stick 4th gen at 44 days at PP but negative. Got a full blood panel done also just to see if anything was off but nothing. Still have red throat so I am so confused. I read clearly this was an incredibly difficult transmission route statistically 0 and it only lasted seconds.  But here I am Hi anxiety which Iím sure is only making me worse. Am I fkd??  Thank you everyone

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Re: Unprotected oral and symptoms
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2021, 08:17:10 pm »
Hiya,

Receiving a blowjob is no HIV to you whatsoever and the sex workers HIV status is irrelevant.

Here's what you need to know to avoid HIV infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions. Consider talking to your healthcare provider about taking PrEP as an additional layer of HIV protection

Keep in mind that some sexual practices described as Ďsafeí in terms of HIV might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's, so please do get tested regularly and at least yearly for STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and, the only way of knowing is by testing.

Kind regards

Jim

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Re: Unprotected oral and symptoms
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2021, 07:48:30 pm »
Hi

Thank you for the prompt response. I also read some of your responses to others and see that you are very knowledgeable and compassionate so I just wanted to recognize that.

I appreciate the reassurance you provide in your response. I am still anxious about it since I have flu like symptoms and that persist and a brief rash I never had before. In looking at other resources, they seem to say that receiving oral is a risk and that HIV can infect in this manner. I saw that you rely on studies following couples and that no evidence was shown for this. Then my mind wanders to all the what ifs about the receptive personís mouth condition. I know saliva is hostile to this virus but can there be a scenario where she had some open sore or STI that changes the situation?  I ask because I canít explain away my symptoms and it times with exposure. I am not challenging your answer, just wondering how to prepare myself for a positive test result  if that occurs. On the other hand, I donít want to worry myself into a self created dark place either. Again. Many thanks and you are doing a wonderful thing for many people here.

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Re: Unprotected oral and symptoms
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2021, 08:34:36 pm »
Hiya,

If you aquire HIV it was not from this event and your symptoms have nothing to do with HIV from the activity mentioned here.

Your concern simply lacks all the basic conditions needed to acquire HIV and hence it makes sense that after nearly 40 years of this pandemic nobody has ever acquired HIV the way you are concerned and you will not be the world's first either!

Now you have had a long debate bringing up a lot of nonsense on another site where they already correctly informed you of the same.

Move on with your life!


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Re: Unprotected oral and symptoms
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2021, 08:57:39 pm »
Thank you again. No other exposures. The point I guess I am struggling to make is that some researchers said for sure it can and that this has actually happened IF they are getting accurate reporting data which I donít know if they are. I am not debating this. I accept your expertise. It is just baffling why they would say something that is not true and alarm people without justification. I appreciate your wisdom. Really. Thank you

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Re: Unprotected oral and symptoms
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2021, 09:10:13 pm »
Hiya,

Outdated or contextless publications aren't a new issue.

There are plenty of resources that still claim silly things like even shaking hands or eating a meal would be an HIV risk and some doctors I've met face to face also think this  :o, but when challenged they can't provide proven case reports or explain it and thankfully what they think, fear or feel isn't fact.

Again, what you are concerned about has never happened in nearly 40 years of the HIV pandemic and that makes perfect sense as it lacks the conditions needed. This has already been explained on the other forum as well.

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Re: Unprotected oral and symptoms
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2021, 01:43:06 am »
Firstly you should only be posting in this thread about your concerns.

Secondly, it's already been explained that receiving a blowjob is no HIV to you whatsoever. Only if you had given a blowjob would there be a minute HIV risk.

Move on with your life. We're not going to continue a round of doubts with you on this topic.
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Re: Unprotected oral and symptoms
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2021, 11:40:43 am »
Hello. Sorry about posting out of the thread. That was user error and not intentional.

I took your advice and was fully moving on but my throat did not clear up so I had a throat culture done and it came back positive for yeast. The doctor said it was oral thrush so now Iím very concerned because I see many places saying that is a common first presenting symptom.

Also, at 7 weeks and 2 days I did a blood drawn 4th gen lab test and 2 Ora quicks at 88 days.

I understand your very firm feeling of my exposure risk as not worrisome but I am facing a symptom seemingly important to this.

I would very much appreciate your thoughts. Was the blood test solid or do I need to test again?

Thank you very much

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Re: Unprotected oral and symptoms
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2021, 11:58:24 am »
You already had your thread locked on another site by their moderator for good reasons and now you are here asking me the same questions posting all over our site except for where you should be posting.  >:(
 
Enjoy a 30-day ban and let me be clear,.   your left arm and right testicle could fall off, it's not going to change that you had no HIV exposure whatsoever from just getting your penis sucked

Move on with your life, use condoms for any intercourse, consider talking to your healthcare provider about PrEP as an additional layer of HIV prevention and test out of standard routine at least yealry for HIV & STI's.

The only thing I could add is if you post about this no HIV risk situation again it's going to lead to another ban.

I'm not going to entertain your fantasy.

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Re: Unprotected oral and symptoms
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2021, 07:21:37 pm »
OK. Got it. Followed your advice on other questions. Took another 4th gen blood draw test after 12 weeks. Negative as you have clearly said it would be. This incident matter is behind me. Apologies and appreciation.

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Re: Unprotected oral and symptoms
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2021, 07:28:27 pm »
 ::)

Waste of time, energy, money and lab work. You simply had no HIV exposure, no HIV risk to test over from this encounter.

8-week ban. I hope next time you receive a blowjob you understand it's not an HIV risk instead of the unnecessary drama and merry-go-round of pointless testing.

Use condoms for any intercourse, test yearly for HIV & STI's out of standard routine.

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