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Author Topic: Chance of microscopic holes on condom by protected blowjob with teeth rubbing  (Read 1253 times)

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Offline romanmosiov

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Hi,

I got confliciting information online about this topic and want to get your personalised answer for this issue
of microscopic holes on condom.

I am a male, and had  a few visits in sex workers in the last monthes.
For each visit we used only one condom,
and the sex workers were using the same condom
for the first protected blowjob and then second/later protected vaginal sex with the same condom which was used for first blowjob.
In some of the visits I could feel a relatively strong teeth rubbing on condom during the protected blowjob
and afterwards we continued to protected vaginal sex with the same condom which was used for the first protected blowjob.
In all sexual encounters the condom looked intact after the vaginal sex,
but I did not check the condom carefully for small holes.

I know that if the condom gets a small tear during the first protected blowjob by teeth rubbing on condom,
the condom will always  shred  immediately during the second/later vaginal sex.
By the condom shredding I will know that the condom failed during the vaginal sex,
and I was in HIV risk from this vaginal sex.

This issue is well understood for me.

What I am not sure about is the possibilty of microscopic holes/pinholes on condom which
may be caused by teeth rubbing on condom during protected blowjob:

I have 2 questions about the issue of microscopic holes on condom:

1.    Is there a possibilty that such microscopic holes can be created on condom
       during protected blowjob by relatively strong teeth rubbing on the condom?
       Does any damage to condom during blowjob by teeth rubbing on condom will be a tear on condom
       or a microscopic holes on condom might also be created by teeth rubbing on condom during protected blowjob?

2.    If the first blowjob activity with teeth rubbing on condom has caused  microscopic holes on condom,
       and afterwards I have a protected vaginal sex with the same condom with  microscopic holes on it,
       or such microscopic holes exist on condom for another reason and then I use this condom with microscopic holes  for vaginal sex.
       Will the condom always shred during vaginal sex with the existance of one  or few microscopic holes on the condom?
       Or the condom might not break all the time with such microscopic holes on the condom during vaginal sex?
       The possibility of the condom not breaking during vaginal sex with a condom with microscopic holes scares me,
       becuase this situation can put me in HIV risk without my awareness.
       This is because HIV  infected fluids from partner's vagina might
       pass through these microscopic holes on condom during vaginal sex and may cause HIV infection to me.
       And I can be in HIV risk without knowing during vaginal sex,
       because such microscopic holes are not visible and the condom might not break with such microscopic holes on it during
       vaginal sex.
 
I just want to understand if such microscopic holes on condom
can be created during blowjob by teeth rubbing on condom,
and if such microscopic holes on condom always cause
condom shredding during vaginal sex with the condom with the microscopic holes on it?

This will help me understand the
HIV risk for last events and the HIV risk for future similar events which might happen in future.

Thank you for your time and work.

Offline Jim Allen

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Hiya,

HIV can't transmit through an intact latex or polyurethane condom. If a condom fails during the act of intercourse, it's obvious. There is no reason to stress or test outside of the standard yearly routine as long as this obvious issue did not happen.

Can using a condom for one activity and then another weaken it, yes. However, it's not an issue unless it shredded so as said, there is no reason to stress or test outside of the standard yearly routine.

If you use the search function on the forum this question and the myth of microscopic holes and HIV has been answered 100's if not 1000's of times in one format or another.

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want to get your personalised answer for this issue of microscopic holes on condom.

Okay, here we go, it's not an issue, instead focus on the real issue in life and real HIV risks. Stop googling nonsense, it's a bit like if I google will I die today some sites will say "yes" or is shaking hands an HIV risk...

Move on with your life, continue to use condoms and test yearly for HIV and far easier to acquire STI's. - That's my personalised answer to you.

Here's what you need to know to avoid HIV infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions. Consider talking to your health care provider about taking PrEP going forward as an additional layer of HIV protection.

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as ‘safe’ in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

Kind regards

Jim

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« Last Edit: May 27, 2021, 12:36:18 pm by Jim Allen »
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Offline romanmosiov

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Hi Jim,

Thank you for your reply and explanations,

it helped me understand that my fear of microscopic holes on condom by teeth rubbing during
blowjob is irrational.

I have another question for a general knowladge.

If I have a vaginal sex with a condom which has a small hole on the tip/head of the condom,
the small hole on condom is in the location of the reservoir for the semen.

In such case the condom with the small hole on the condom tip/reservoir will always shred during vaginal sex?
Or because the location of the small hole on the condom is on the reservoir,
the condom reservoir is a location in which there is less stress on condom during vaginal sex
(This is because the condom reservoir is very small relatively to the rest of the condom),
so in that case the condom might not shred all the time
during vaginal sex with such small hole on the condom tip/reservoir
or it will always shred during vaginal sex in such case?

I would appreciate your professional opinion regarding this situation.

Thank you for the great educational work you do.

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This really falls within the answer already provided.

If a condom fails during the act of intercourse, it's obvious. There is no reason to stress or test outside of the standard yearly routine as long as this obvious issue did not happen.
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Offline romanmosiov

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Hi Jim,

Thank you for your second answer I have fully understood it.

I have a last question about the
possibilty of microscopic holes which may appear on condom by protected blowjob with relatively strong teeth rubbing.

I still feel concerned a little bit about the issue of microscopic holes on condom which can happen
during protected blowjob with relatively strong teeth rubbing on condom. 

According to your opinion which option out of the 3 options below describes
the correct mechanics of condom and  correct mechanics of HIV infection :

1.   Such microscopic holes  can appear on condom after protected blowjob with relatively strong teeth rubbing,
      but these microscopic holes on condom
      will develop into condom shredding  during the second / later protected vaginal sex with the same condom.

2.    Such microscopic holes  can not appear on condom after protected blowjob with teeth rubbing,
       damage to condom by teeth rubbing during blowjob will cause a visible hole to the condom which will
       develop into condom shredding during the second/later vaginal sex with the same condom .

3.    Such microscopic holes  can appear on condom after protected blowjob with teeth rubbing,
       these microscopic holes can stay on condom during the second/later
       vaginal sex without causing the condom to shred during vaginal sex,
       but HIV infection can not occure through these microscopic holes during vaginal sex,
       becuase these microscopic holes on condom
       are too small to allow HIV infected fluid to pass through these microscopic holes during vaginal sex.

I was trying to simulate the blowjob activity on a condom by putting a condom on cucumber and
using my mouth and teeth to simulate the blowjob activity with relatively strong teeth rubbing on condom.
Afterwards I have made water test on condom, and  found  that the simulation has caused very tiny holes on condom,
I could see water leaked through these very small holes on condom.

I konw it may sound like a little bit crazy and overthinking doing this test and ruminating about these possibities,
but as an educated person
I think that understanding the correct mechanics of condom
and HIV infection will help me the best ease my mind and clear this fear.

Therefore I would appreciate your specific opinion about which option out of the 3 options 
above describes the correct mechanics of the things.

I appreciate your time,
pleas let me know if there is a way for me to make a  little donation to your organization.

Thank you for everything and sorry for long posts.


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Seriously, stop messing about with condoms on fruits. It's nothing like the stress or mechanics during intercourse and nothing you do is going to compare to scientific studies and research on the topic.

If you come back with more on this topic it will be considered excessive and you will see your access blocked for 28 days.

Jim.

EDIT - Banned 28 days, you were warned and asking me the same question again that I've already answered is not going to change the answer.

« Last Edit: May 28, 2021, 01:31:37 pm by Jim Allen »
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