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Author Topic: Negative 4th Generation test 42 Post exposure still have symptoms T1 diabetic  (Read 2695 times)

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Hello, I am a hetero sexual male and had unprotected vaginal sex with an older female (Unknown status) on March 8th for 5-10 minutes it was not rough and there was no blood. I started having swollen lymphnodes under my jaw and behind my jaw 2-3 weeks after exposure and they subsided after 2 weeks. I got 4th Generation combo test at 42 days post exposure and it was negative. I started having oral manifestations at 64 days post exposure. I am now at day 72 Post exposure and the Oral manifestations have not gotten better (White coat on the inside of my cheeks and a blister with clear liquid on the inside of my bottom lip, along with two soars on the roof of my mouth but those have gotten better). I will get retested on the 90th day mark but my question is could type one diabetes make my results delayed seeing as how it is a preexisting condition? Also is 72 days normal to start having Oral manifestation from HIV infection?

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Hello, I am a hetero sexual male and had unprotected vaginal sex with an older female (Unknown status) on March 8th for 5-10 minutes it was not rough and there was no blood. I started having swollen lymphnodes under my jaw and behind my jaw 2-3 weeks after exposure and they subsided after 2 weeks. I got 4th Generation combo test at 42 days post exposure and it was negative. I started having oral manifestations at 64 days post exposure. I am now at day 72 Post exposure and the Oral manifestations have not gotten better (White coat on the inside of my cheeks and a blister with clear liquid on the inside of my bottom lip, along with two soars on the roof of my mouth but those have gotten better). I will get retested on the 90th day mark but my question is could type one diabetes make my results delayed seeing as how it is a preexisting condition? Also is 72 days normal to start having Oral manifestation from HIV infection?

Hiya,

Diabetes would not change the window period for testing, and the oral issues are not HIV specific. See your doctor and treat whatever is causing you issues.

Regarding testing, if I understand correctly, you tested at six weeks post last possible exposure with a blood-drawn (lab) HIV antibodies test. The negative result at this time will rarely ever change, and further testing is not normally warranted unless you have had ongoing exposures, but if it gives peace of mind, then repeat at three months for a conclusive result.

Remember to test for far easier to acquire STI's as well.

Here's what you need to know to avoid HIV infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions. Consider talking to your health care provider about taking PrEP going forward as an additional layer of HIV protection.

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as Ďsafeí in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

Kind regards

Jim

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Hey Jim,

At the 90 day mark should I get the 4th generation or Oraquick? The Oral Thrush/soars have me freaking out because I have never had this issue before.

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Either test would be fine at three months.

Oral thrush is common enough that it happens to most adults regardless of HIV status during their lifetimes. As for the sores get that checked by your doctor and treated.
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Hey Jim,

After looking up my oral symptoms Iím pretty convinced it is oral hairy leukoplakia and not the typical oral thrush that you see on the tongue.  The inner part of my cheeks have a white line of what appears to be a type of fungus or dead skin. It has gradually gotten better over the course of two weeks but is definitely still there. I donít believe it is linea alba of the mouth either. Do you have experience with oral hairy leukoplakia, if so could you explain it to me? or could you point me in the right direction of some websites/photos to compare? I am 74 days post exposure now. Thank you

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Yeah, I know about it.

But let's keep this really simple, it's not related to HIV from this incident.

See your doctor instead of looking at pictures online and let them diagnose and treat whatever is causing you the issue.
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Okay I dont know how to really say this because its going to be one of the most messed up things you've heard or I am just freaking out. I understand that my test at 42 days would rarely change but given the circumstances I am freaking out.

So I used my lotion to masturbate and it was a bottle with a push down squirt contraption used to get the lotion out. the push down part was broken so instead I unscrewed the top and took out the tube and grabbed the lotion off of that. I would masturbate for some time and then proceed to grab (with the same hand used I masturbate) more lotion off of the tube. I'm not sure if any of my pre ejaculation had gotten on tube but i know for a fact that I didn't fully ejaculate on to the tube or into the bottle itself. The next day my roommate asked to use my lotion. I let him use it without even thinking about the previous days actions (I believed he used it for 3-5 days). A week after the initial incident My roommate started noticing bumps on his chest and stomach and one mark on his face resembling HIV Rash. I also didn't notice any openings or wounds on my roommate's body.

I guess the moral of my story and the major question i have comes down to this: My question is could HIV in precum survive in a closed lotion bottle and then infect my roommate if he proceeded to rub it on himself if he had a cut or wound? Not that I have noticed any on him but hypothetically speaking.

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He also has said itís very itchy and has gotten prescribed a fungal cream from the doctor. The rash has come and go for 3-4 weeks now he says.

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Hiya,

Read your post three times.
Your housemate can't acquire HIV from using the same lotion.

One of the barriers is that HIV is fragile and sexually only transmitted inside the confines of the body as in never being exposed outside the confines of the body.

Jim
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Even if pre semen somehow got into the bottle and mixed with the lotion?

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Asked and answered.

Your hands were not within a vacuum to put the HIV into the lotion, neither is the bottle of lotion vacuum-sealed or the same conditions as within a human body.

Your housemate did not open the lotion within the confines of a vacuum whilst holding their breath to apply it and on top of lacking exposure to viable HIV, your concerns lack route.

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One of the barriers is that HIV is fragile and sexually only transmitted inside the confines of the body as in never being exposed outside the confines of the body.

This recent fear is a lot like the old myths of HIV contaminated food or drink in the sense that for the same reasons that is not a concern this is not a concern.

Move on with your life.
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Okay thank you for dumbing that down for me, I was very concerned. I appreciate it!

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Hey Jim regarding the oraquick test, could I take it at 12 weeks instead of 13 weeks or do you think the 13th week would be more accurate? Iíve been going through posts regarding oraquick and am generally confused as too if I can test at 12 weeks or should wait until the 13th week.

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Hiya,

The result would be about the same. Last time I checked these things were measured at 90 days. 12.5 weeks, hence plenty of people say 13 weeks.

Jim.
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