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HIV Prevention and Testing => Do I Have HIV? => Topic started by: MJworried on February 23, 2007, 09:15:30 pm
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I am an uncircumcised male! TWO days ago, I was in the STEAM ROOM when this man, whose HIV status is unknown!!!, starts to masterbate himself. he wants me to masterbate him and I did. Then he starts to masterbate me with some of HIS PRECUM on his hand. he massages my urethra and foreskin with some of his PRECUM and then massages the outer rim of my anus. Should I be worried about contracting HIV if he was in fact HIV positive??? very scared and nervous!!!! I've never had anal/oral/ or any sex as a matter of fact.. I'm a virgin and this was my first ever sexual experience with another person ever! Please someone help me! I'm sooo scared especially living alone.
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MJ,
The situation you describe poses NO RISK for hiv infection.
Use condoms for penetrative sex and you will avoid infection.
Morgan
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MJ,
You didn't participate in anything risky and you certainly don't need to even think about getting a test. Start reading in the lessons link below to see what the risks for transmission actually are.
http://www.aidsmeds.com/articles/Transmission_9960.shtml (http://www.aidsmeds.com/articles/Transmission_9960.shtml)
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Mutual masturbation, with or without someone else's cum or precum is NOT a risk for HIV transmission. HIV is a fragile virus and masturbation is not a circumstance which allows for transmission to occur.
As suggested, please read the lesson on this site about Transmission as well as the one about testing.
Becoming sexually active is very exciting. It also frequently brings up confusion and anxiety about what's ok and what isn't. Follow the information on those lessons consistently and go at a pace that you're comfortable with in whatever you choose to do. Or to not do. And if you get around to having intercourse, make sure whoever is the insertive partner is always, without exception, using a condom.
This time out you have no cause for concern about HIV.
Cheers,
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Should I still be tested! if so, when?
and should I also test for STD's? What sort of testings are they? and do they hurt?
I'm still a little worried because I feel like you can be infected if the man's precum were to go into my urethra and anus! :(
and I still have concerns over symptoms!
I feel like I'm aware of every little thing I feel on my body (e.g. sore throat, slight fever, itch, etc.) are symptoms!
Thank you so much for your time and empathy. I truly appreciate it coming from someone who is living alone!
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MJ,
No, you don't need to be tested after this incident.
You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL STIs together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with a sexually transmitted infection. Sex with a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.
Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.
Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs. You don't need to do this until you are regularly sexually active. You do NOT need to test over this incident.
As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.
Condoms prevent hiv - but only when you use them.
Ann
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I am a man who recently kissed another man for a few seconds. after the incident.. i had a bump on the tip of my tongue which went away.. but now i have a small red dot on the top lip! I'm scared that I may have some sort of std.. do you know if I should be worried about stds or hiv.
Also this he sucked on my nipples! could I have contracted stds or HIV from that also??????
I'm very worried..! please help me.. thank you
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Keep all your questions and thoughts in your orginal thread. Take the time to read "Transmission." You will find the link in the "Welcome" thread.
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MJ,
I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.
If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.
Please also read through the Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0) so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.
Kissing, no matter what sort of spin you want to put on it, is NOT a risk for hiv transmission. Not one person has ever been infected through a kiss and you will not be the first.
Nipple sucking, whether you are doing the sucking or if your nipples are being sucked, is also NOT a risk for hiv infection. Only babies who depend solely on mother's milk for their nutrition are at any risk of infection through nipple sucking. Not one adult has ever been infected through nipple sucking and you will not be the first.
Sexually speaking, hiv is spread through unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse and that's it. Make sure you are wearing condoms - or your partner is wearing one if you are bottoming - and you will avoid hiv infection. When you read through the Welcome thread, make sure you click on the Transmission Lesson link and read it. Please re-read your entire thread again as well.
Ann
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thank you..
should i still test for stds??? should i be worried about having it...?
you guys are really doing great work! thank you
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Any sexually active adult owes it to him/herself to test twice a year for STDs. Condoms are terrific insofar as preventing HIV infection. But you can still sometimes get other STDs despite the correct and consistent use of condoms, and many of them have zero symptoms.
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I'm really not doing so well.. cause i'm soo scared
THis is probably not related to this site, since this is about whether or not I am infected with HIV, but I've been going crazy about STIs
if you can help i would truly appreciate it!
I checked my anus and found a pimple like bump on the outside of my anus... i spread it and it was red, sort of like a scab or something! :-(
(a man rubbed his finger on my anus for a like a couple of seconds, possibly with precum on this finger)
I also have small bumps on my lips (I think cause I french kissed a guy for like 15 seconds)
I think I have a rectangular or ringworm shaped bump on the side of my penis head..
I don't know what to do! Can you tell me what this all means! I'm really scared.
How soon can you get an STI testing? and SHOULD i really be worried?
I'm a virgin and I'm having a hard time going through this!
Thank you..
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Go to a doctor and get yourself tested for STDs.
But this is an HIV support/information site. Since HIV is not an issue for you, we cannot really help you further.
Brent
(Who thinks MJ should relax, it's just sex)
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MJ, becoming sexually active is both exciting and scary. It often raises a lot of anxiety as you are finding out.
Nothing you have reported in either activities or "symptoms" are suggestive of HIV nor indeed of any STDs. Please read the lesson on Transmission (again). It gives you all the basics you need to know about HIV transmission. The link to it is in the Welcome thread which opens this section.
If you have symptoms which are concerning you that's something to discuss with your doctor. Nothing sounds untoward to me, but when anxiety starts getting out of control anything that happens or doesn't happen becomes another something to be concerned about.
As far as sexual activity goes I suggest that you go at a pace you're comfortable with as you explore your sexuality.
Nothing you have reported sounds like a problem to me.
Cheers,
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thank you so much. I will get tested for hiv and stds at my school's clinic. do you know when I can get an std test however?
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If you are asking how long you need to wait until you get accurate test results when there has been a risk, the CDC recommends doing an HIV test at 13 weeks.
As far as other STDs are concerned that would be a reliable testing point as well.
Now, rather than worrying while you're waiting to do your tests, stay productively busy and you will find the time can pass more quickly than you may imagine. Really.
Based on your comments, I don't expect you will have any problems with your test results.
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if anyone knows, can you get Stds from fingering..
It was very brief.. it was not all the way.. it was with the tip of his index finger!?
I am concerned with that whitish bump in the inner lining of my anus.
and I've been going crazy with every little symptom I've been experiencing, like blood in my mucus when i spitted this morning, brushing my teeth. and a red spot on my back. and pimples on my forehead and on the back of my neck! and everytime my penis and balls itch, and i feel like i've been having loose bowel movements! I get worried!!! and i have mild fevers, but i'm not sure if that's because i use the sauna and steam room everyday.
very worried. :( :( :( :(
thank you
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The symptoms which are mentioning all sound like totally garden variety events of life to me. If you are really concerned about them discuss them with your doctor.
Of course they have nothing to do with HIV. You know, your body does have all sorts of things happen just in the course of living. But right now your mind is busily (mis)interpreting everything through an HIV scared viewpoint.
You're beginning to persuade me that you need to see a counselor or other mental health professional to address the emotional aspects of what's going on. This is NOT an HIV situation no matter what your mind may continue to come up with.
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To Andy, Ann, RapidRod, or to whom it may concern..
I went to the health clinic today, had testing on hiv, and the other stds...
My last mutual masterbation (2weeks ago), and My first ever mutual masterbation being 1 month ago...
I felt that enough time hasn't past yet, but the doctor said he will test me anyway..
Should I be worried.. They took a urine sample and drew blood!
do I need to test again in the future? if so, should I be counting the weeks from my last mutual masterbation, which was 2 weeks ago???
please help.. I truly appreciate your feedbacks!!! thank you!!!!!!!!!!!
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You dont get HIV from mutual masturbation.
Why do you think the answers will change in response to your manyfactured anxiety?
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thank you for your feedback jkinatl2 ..
but only because his precum was massaged into my urethra.. it's because of that
and I'm soo scared about catching STDs from mutual masterbation too..
i'm just very scared because I'm so new to homosexuality and all of this.
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"I'm just very scared because I'm so new to homosexuality and all of this."
That is the real issue I believe you are having. Your experiencing alot of anxiety with exploring your sexuality which is perfectly normal, unfortunately this anxiety is merging into other areas of your life and causing you to over-worry about this incident.
Please do listen to us when we say it isnt a risk. We happen to know what we are talking about. In addition please read the Lessons on Transmission and decide what you are going to be comfortable doing sexually and stick to that. Always use a condom for anal sex and you should be just fine as far as HIV goes.
Good luck.
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thank you.. acinkc
i TRULY appreciate your feedback..
and I WILL!!
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Okay.. so if the test come back negative for HIV and STDs, should I test again.. since my last mutual masterbation was 2 weeks ago! if so, how long should I wait???????
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hi
I still haven't gotten my results back, (hopefully tomorrow or tuesday, the latest)
But i'm soo scared of HIV, StDs, and AIDS. do i need to test again!??? after the results come back????
I've been breaking out with rashes on my arms and shoulders, itchiness in certain places in my body,
WEIRD skin lesions on hands, and Ringworm on my arm! and a small red rash on the head of my penis!
does this sounds like anything???????
thank you.. i know my anxiety is high right now, but i really need your expertise.
mj
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Visit your doctor. It's unrelated to HIV.
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thanks for the reply rapidrod...
I just got my results today from the student clinic.. my HIV and stds all came back negative.
However, the doc tells me this is a sign of relief. and tells me I don't need a syphalis test cause it's not common!? is he right??? should i still get one and when?
but i'm still unsettled, because my last mutual masterbation with two guys was 2 weeks ago! :-(
Do I need to test again?!! and should I be worrried!!!
I have pain in my right shoulder and NOW my right knee (really worried about this, is this from working out everyday? or symptoms?) Doc, wouldn't tell me!!!! and I have sort of pain after I open up my urethra to check for warts or something else, and my right eye is so dry and irritated and my skin is so dry (not sure if that's because i'm using the sauna/steamrooom everyday! which i decided I won't do anymore!) and i get rashes when I itch my skin, and i get soo scared when i see a red spot on my skin now!!!
ALso most important!!!!!!!!!
not sure if this is from HEAT RASH, but the head of my penis and part of my foreskin that touches the rash on the penis head is red and sort of BURNS!!!!!!!!!!! ouch.. should i be worried about this?!!!
need your expertise?
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What part of, "You don't get HIV from mutual masterbation" is it, that you don't understand?
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Try leaving your body alone for a few weeks. It sounds as though youre going over it with a fine tooth comb every 15 minutes! Nothing you have indicated is in ANYWAY related to HIV and masturbation is NOT a risk.
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I'm CLUELESS AND worried!!
new encounter that is making me sort of worried.
This guys touched my right nipple and played with it for less than a minute, until I stopped him..
Because I was afraid of STDs and AIDS...
I quickly rinsed with water and soap right after.. should I be worried or STDS????
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MJ, it's time for you to leave the forum. If you can't take the time to read the lessons on transmission, we sure don't have time to entertain your silly questions.
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Sorry rapid, i don't mean to ask silly questions..just really worried! I'm soo afraid of having STDs.. because I live alone, so I really have no one to talk to about this..
but do you think I might have gotten something from someone massaging my nipple?
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Again, you aren't paying attention. READ THE LESSON ON HIV TRANSMISSION
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MJ, you obviously need to talk about your homosexuality and your experiences, but this is not the place. There are many pretty cool places in every city where you can talk with people like you, discovering all this, with more experienced people giving you the answers you are looking for. Look for them in a gay paper, just be sure that it's a serious place with std testing, councelling and a specific branch for young people like you.
Milker.
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You might also check out if your school offers counseling or can recommend where you can get that.
It sounds like you're very isolated with your thoughts about both the physical and emtional aspects of sexuality and would benefit from having a safe place to talk and to ask questions.
This is really not the proper setting to provide you with that service. What you're experiencing is something not that unusual even though you may feel as if you are the only one. Which is why it's good to be able to talk about it in a proper safe setting.
Cheers,
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thank you for your comforting thoughts everyone!..
I've been so scared..
because this all took place in the steam room at my gym..
and since it was really warm and moist.. I felt that anything could have been EASILY transmitted by a STRANGER and especially being uncircumsized!
I have some QUESTIONs (I would love your honest answer):
1. Can you get infected by HIV/or STDs when the MAN, I don't know, rubs his precum in my urethra IN A VERY WARM AND MOIST STEAM ROOM???
2. and can you get infected if HIS CUM was on my hand, i wiiped it with a towel, then went into the shower afterwards!???????
3. Is it okay to do it after 5 weeks since exposure or should I wait longer? (oops, this was the last question!)
Also, today.. I cut myself while shaving the my balls (wound was a day old),
can i have gotten infected with anything while using the towels at the gym or when I sat in the steam room and if it touched the wet seat???
Thank you.. I really appreciate you guys alot..
I will be testing again for HIV and STDs soon at my school clinic.
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MJ,
We've already given you honest answers to your questions and they aren't going to change.
1. NO
2. NO
3. You don't need to test.
4. NO
Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is primarily transmitted INSIDE the human body as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse. You did NOT have unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse. Nothing that happened in the gym/steam room put you at risk for hiv. Honestly. (why would we lie to you?)
I agree with Milker and Andy. It sounds like you would benefit from talking your emerging sexuality over with someone who is trained to help people learn to accept their sexuality. Your sexuality is completely normal and you don't need to have this high anxiety over it. Get yourself some counseling so you can begin to enjoy your life.
Ann
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Thanks Ann,
--1. Don't you think I need to test again?
I'm really starting to think what if I got infected with HIV or STDs by having someone rub on my urethra with their precum!
And inserting his finger tip into my anus, which he might have had pre cum on his finger!
--2. Also, couldn't I have gotten STDs from masterbating with 6 different men, on different occassions, where all of them masterbated me, in the steamroom? which I don't do anymore.
I'm just so worried and scared that I may have HIV or STDS. I never had sex in my life before.
I mean. I read "I just tested poz" forum, I know I shouldn't have, but I read that some people followed all the rules but still ended up testing positive! that makes me terrified!
All I did was mutual masterbation. I'm so scared that I might have been infected from just mutual masterbation.
ALSO, I JUST STARTED HAVING SPOTS ON THE TOP OF MY FEET. and the head of my penis is sore and my foreskin is even more sore!
--3. Do you know if that's related to HIV or STDS? :-(
I'm so unsure about all this stuff..
--4. SHOULD I BE WORRIED MORE ABOUT STDS THAN BEING INFECTED WITH HIV, or HIV more than STDS, or BOTH?????
I'm going to test again this wednesday, it's 7 weeks since my FIRST mutual masterbation & 5 weeks since my LAST encounter!
--5. would the results be conclusive?
Please help.. thank you
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You are quickly heading to a timeout.
You had NO risk of HIV.
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You are quickly heading to a timeout.
You had NO risk of HIV.
I don't under stand? What do you mean by "a timeout"?
What does it mean that I'm "heading to a time out"?!
I'm just very scared!!!!
sorry if I have offended you in any way.
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MJ,
If you bothered to read the Welcome thread like you're supposed to, you'd know what AC is talking about. The following is a quote from the Welcome thread:
Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.
Why are you asking me again if you need to test, when I already said you DO NOT need to test? Do you read what is written to you, or do you just come back and ask questions again? Re-read your whole thread again, from start to finish. Your questions have been answered and the answers are not going to change, no matter how many times you ask.
Ann
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thank you ann and thank you to everyone else that replied back on this thread..
I have read the lessons and I still get worried.. you're right I do need to deal with my guilt and issues!
It's just I'm not out-of the closest, and I still have issues I need to deal with..
I am going to be more cautious and educate myself as much as I can before I have sex with someone I LOVE.
is anyone familiar with Fenway Community Health?
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MJ,
I'm not familiar with Fenway, no. But I'm sure that there will be a GLBT organisation somewhere in your area and many organisations have peer counselors - or regular counselors - who can help you through this transition in your life.
That there are people with sexualities different from heterosexuality is just a normal part of life's rich tapestry. I urge you to seek assistance in coming to terms with your sexuality. It isn't wrong, it just is and you have the fundamental human right to be at ease with your sexuality. I wish you well in finding peace with it.
Remember to use condoms when you start having anal (or vaginal) intercourse and you'll be fine. Make sure you read through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use them with confidence. You might also like to buy some to experiment with in the privacy of your own home, so when it comes time to use one with another person, you'll be used to them and know what to do. Don't wait until the heat of the moment to familiarise yourself with condoms and lube.
Ann
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Hello all,
I just read over StacheBC's thread, and I am deeply saddened for him.
But now I'm a little more concerned over my exprience, since he also was in the sauna.
I had mutual masterbation sessions with 6 men in the sauna, and I am now offically nervous.
Should I have the same worries..
I noticed that I have a slight rash that won't go away on both sides of the cheek. I thought
it might have been due to shaving but it's been weeks now.. and it's still theere??!!!!!
and Now I have pain in thee right side of my groin! >:( >:( >:(
please help. thank you
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Hello all,
I just read over StacheBC's thread, and I am deeply saddened for him.
But now I'm a little more concerned over my exprience, since he also was in the sauna.
I had mutual masterbation sessions with 6 men in the sauna, and I am now offically nervous.
Should I have the same worries..
I noticed that I have a slight rash that won't go away on both sides of the cheek. I thought
it might have been due to shaving (and I haveen't shaved it for weeks) but it's been weeks now.. and it's still theere??!!!!!
please help. thank you
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Haven't we been here before?
STOP raiding the Just Tested Poz Forum for more fear fodder for yourself! This is a site for HIV and you have been told over and over in this thread that mutual masturbation is NOT a risk for HIV. You've spun it like 50 different ways already. You think the risk changes based on the LOCATION the activity takes place?
Move on.
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thank you for your reply..
sorry.. i just am scared because now I have pain in my groin.
i really don't want to be banned. i just want some advice.. i'm new to all of this
my apologies once again
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MJ going into the poz only forums and dragging the issues of HIV positive people back here to bolster your own unfounded fears is called "trawling" and it's very, very uncool.
Even for a worried well.
Don't do it.
MtD
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MJ,
You've convinced me that it's time you had a four week time out. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.
Do not create another account to get around your time out because if you do, I will know and you will be permanently banned.
Ann
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last night I had my FIRST anal where i was the receiver.
Here's what we did.
1. unprotected oral sex.
2. then partner used a condom to have anal sex with me. however. after a few minutes of anal sex, he pulled out and then
jerked himself off till he came. I thought he took the condom off. However this morning, while going to the bathroon.. I noticed the
condom was still inside me. I discovered it in the toilet bowl. It came out of me in the morning!
my partner assured me that he tested negative in JUNE of this year. However, what are my chances of contracting hiv if he was
possibly positive? should I be of any concern? should I get tested? I was tested twice this year... once in March and then again in May...
also, i noticed a faint amount of blood on the toilet tissue... should I be worried? Please help me.. You feedback is greatly appreciated.. thank you
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MJ,
I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.
If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.
Please also read through the Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0) so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.
It's most likely that the condom slipped off upon withdrawal. They'll do that if the base of the condom isn't held on to while pulling out.
You haven't been at risk.
Ann
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But the condom was inside me all night long while i was sleeping.. up until the morning!!
what if there was precum inside the condom. and what if he was penetrating me with the condom stuck in me (bareback)????
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MJ,
Re-read what Ann told you:
It's most likely that the condom slipped off upon withdrawal. They'll do that if the base of the condom isn't held on to while pulling out.
You haven't been at risk.
She would have considered your concern about precum when she wrote that. As she says you were not at risk.
MtD
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Hi.. I need your expertise.
The guy I had sex with where I was the receiver on September, said he tested negative yesterday.
But he seems to be concerned still that he may need to test again...
Also, he tested negative back in April also...
this is making me scared and worried. I was wondering if I need to be tested?
do you think I should? He says that I don't have to worry about getting HIV.
But I'm still scared... It was my first time having sex and I'm now worried!
please help. thannk you.
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MJ,
Re-read the advice that we gave you. If you'd been at risk don't you think we would have said so?
MtD
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The reason why i'm so worried again is because
he said, even though he tested negative, he feels
he needs to test again. I asked him if he's had
unsafe sex. and he said no. but he has had a lot of
unprotected oral sex.
I'm just concerned because the condom did slipp off, and
i'm afraid that he might have inserted his penis in me without it
on... because I found the condom was still inside of me in the morning!!!!
:-(
please help.. thank you