Carlos 32

[Carlos 32]

Kavey UK ""So, in summary - if you didn't test too late, have CD4 in normal range, are keeping virus undetectable and are looking after yourself, you are pretty much on a par with if you are HIV- in terms of what you can do, and the lifespan you can expect."

Esto quiere decir que los que empezamos tratamiento con menos de 200cd4 no tenemos una expedranza al menos cercana a la nomal de vida en comparacion con los que lo hicieron a tiempo?

[Jim Allen]

Esto quiere decir que los que empezamos tratamiento con menos de 200cd4 no tenemos una expedranza al menos cercana a la nomal de vida en comparacion con los que lo hicieron a tiempo?

No Carlos, not at all. You are twisting something due to your own fears, best outcomes are from early diagnosis before damage can be done, late diagnosis does not automatically mean permanent damage is done

Inflammatory Diseases remains a concern and may cause earlier aging concerns however you are also being seen by a doctor and can detect and treat early for them, should they even be an issue for you. Even with all of this life expectancy is near normal even for you, your HIV does not change it as long as you treat it.

On the Inflammatory Disease part a lot of work is being done into this. No matter what even if they do not progress in this area over the next years you should like i said with treatment and care expect to live a normal life span, whatever that was for you and enjoy it.

To be honest at this rate and looking at your posts you will die from stress and heart-failure long before HIV or aging has a change  - Relax 

Also I love you but stop hijacking other peoples threads with your own concerns. We have been over this topic before you and me https://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=68672.msg739538#msg739538

[CaveyUK]

Kavey UK ""So, in summary - if you didn't test too late, have CD4 in normal range, are keeping virus undetectable and are looking after yourself, you are pretty much on a par with if you are HIV- in terms of what you can do, and the lifespan you can expect."

Esto quiere decir que los que empezamos tratamiento con menos de 200cd4 no tenemos una expedranza al menos cercana a la nomal de vida en comparacion con los que lo hicieron a tiempo?

Lifespan is an odd concept, as so many variables exist - most of which are nothing to do with HIV. Lifestyle choices, vices, activity levels and genetic makeup can all influence lifespan to a greater extent, which is why the advice to all people living with HIV is to try and live as healthily and actively as possible.

Personally speaking, I was diagnosed with a cd4 count <200, and am now in the 'normal' range and UD. I live my life exactly as I did pre-diagnosis, work, travel, try to stay active etc. I don't have any direct impact on my day to day activities as a result of that later diagnosis and expect to live a long life. Will I get some problem in the future which is somehow related to my lower starting point? Possibly, but there's no point worrying about that really as I may not have any problems at all.

Basically the sooner you can be diagnosed, the less chance there is of later complications due to damage caused by the virus. That doesn't however mean that people starting with lower cd4's are *guaranteed* to have problems.

We all just owe it to ourselves to look after ourselves physically and mentally and thankfully with current treatments we can ALL look forward to long and healthy lives.

[Carlos 32]

Mil disculpas Jim, pensé que comentaba sobre el mismo hilo y no sé cómo se abrió un nuevo hilo, fue un error y no intencional, disculpas a todos!

[Jim Allen]

Carlos I've split the thread to keep your concern in its own thread to respect the original OP.

If you are concerned about your health to be honest the thing to worry about in life is the common things and most impactful. So reducing your controllable risks factors

Regardless of HIV status looking after yourself like quitting bad habits such as smoking, boozing, eating badly and not being active will help keep you healthier and is also going to help you prevent to a degree concerns from happing sooner in life. In short if your concerned about life expectancy or quality of life focus on the big impacting items that are within your control instead of stressing about might slightly impact things you can't change.

In my opinion it's no good being treated for hiv and smoking 20 a day, and worrying about hiv causing issues as the sure odds are you will die sooner but the main factor would be smoking not the hiv. Same for drinking, eating crap, being inactive or stressing for no reason ect ect ect

Jim

https://www.poz.com/basics/hiv-basics/hiv-nutrition
https://www.poz.com/basics/hiv-basics/hiv-smoking 

[Jim Allen]

Mil disculpas Jim, pensé que comentaba sobre el mismo hilo y no sé cómo se abrió un nuevo hilo, fue un error y no intencional, disculpas a todos!

No need to apologize. It's all good

[CaveyUK]

In my opinion it's no good being treated for hiv and smoking 20 a day, and worrying about hiv causing issues as the sure odds are you will die sooner but the main factor would be smoking not the hiv. Same for drinking, eating crap, being inactive or stressing for no reason ect ect ect

I'm screwed basically!

[Jim Allen]

  Yup- lol.

Same here,  my diet was and is crap, i smoked from age 11 to 34, 2 packs a day and until 2 years ago drunk like a fish and avoided unessasry movement at all costs ...

So HIV is a relatively minor impact on my long term health

That said, I stopped smoking, do move more and walk places and have quit drinking as I have no excuse to continue to waste my health.

Going to the giant clauseway this weekend, so good bit of walking to do.

[Wade]

I'm screwed basically!

 

I quit smoking about 20 years ago but I still drink, eat crap and lace my spaghetti sauce with marijuana extract. Sitting around the table with 3 other old people that literally can't move after dinner...lol
I'm still here and enjoying life 30 years later, relax and enjoy yours 

[Jim Allen]

my spaghetti sauce with marijuana extract

New twist on "space cake" and now we know the secrete ingredient to a successful dinner party 

@Carlos 32

I know were kidding around a lot but I hope you are getting the support out of this thread you need. At the very least you now know how to spice up spaghetti sauce

Jim

[Carlos 32]

Su sentido del humor y su apoyo me hacen ver que existe futuro y que no todo el panorama es oscuro, gracias por el apoyo de hoy Jim

[Jim Allen]

You're welcome 

[JosephP]

Esto quiere decir que los que empezamos tratamiento con menos de 200cd4 no tenemos una expedranza al menos cercana a la nomal de vida en comparacion con los que lo hicieron a tiempo?

Carlos, my friend... No.. Realmente aquellos que empezamos el tratamiento cuando nuestros CD4 estaban por debajo de los 200 (198 fue el mio) no es que no tengamos esperanza de llevar una vida seminormal. Es enteramente posible que algo distinto al hiv nos lleve a la tumba... Pero espero que sea cuando este llegando a los 90 de vida!!.. No es una garantía que si empezaste el tratamiento tarde (<200) tendrás problemas mas tarde! Goza de la vida... Dale al hiv su puesto, pero que no ocupe tu vida totalmente!