outdated medical research

[em]

parallels in history in reference to illness .

someone a long time ago ( around the mid eighties )  suggested I read the book. the ballad of typhoid Mary published in 1982 .

I did not stop there . I looked into every trivial detail . Like how she was confined to a hospital that was in the middle of a TB epidemic .  a large number of people died from TB that over shadowed Typhoid.  When she passed away a treatment was found five years later that cured people like her .

This was an interesting topic about how life used to be and how life repeats itself. the illnesses may have different names . But some how people still got sick and died   

just an interesting read about illness and how society deals with it and how people live with it ?     

another relevant topic along the same line. Doctor Ehrlich's Magic Bullet with Edward G Robinson (1940)     About finding ways to treat disease.   the arsenic treatment for syphilis. the movie came out a about the same time penicillin was first used in 1942.   

medical research.  those who forget the past are something about repeating it ? 

history has parallels that repeat ? the names may have changed but the results remain the same ? I know outdated information . that might inspire patients and the knowledge of not being alone and the things we deal with others have dealt with
 before ?

all the best to you

EM

 

[J.R.E.]

parallels in history in reference to illness .

someone a long time ago ( around the mid eighties )  suggested I read the book. the ballad of typhoid Mary published in 1982 .

I did not stop there . I looked into every trivial detail . Like how she was confined to a hospital that was in the middle of a TB epidemic .  a large number of people died from TB that over shadowed Typhoid.  When she passed away a treatment was found five years later that cured people like her .

This was an interesting topic about how life used to be and how life repeats itself. the illnesses may have different names . But some how people still got sick and died   

just an interesting read about illness and how society deals with it and how people live with it ?     


EM

Did you forget that you brought this subject of Typhoid Mary up in this thread from April 27th 2020


https://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=74216.msg768253#msg768253


I thought I was losing my mind reading about Typhoid Mary again, but apprently my mind is fine. 

[em]

 


I thought I might have ? I did not realize it was read 1313 times.  started  in April . You recalled reading it .  what do you think about the parallels of typhoid mary and the way people with HIV have been treated ?

I wonder if anyone who read that read the book ? no one posted any thoughts ? SO I guess no one reads books anymore ?

I can say this when I read it I thought how hard her life must have been ? then I thought everyone with HIV has had a similar road to walk


  sorry it helped me many years ago to think that this type of experience of getting an illness and how it happened  to others before me . gave me perspective on the repetitive nature of living.   

the thought of how these new things are so similar to old things.

I thought about this many times . it gave me hope .   

If  I am repetitive so is life ? 

the hope that people over came just such hardships might inspire others and myself .
that this too might be overcome ?

just trying to find a way to share these experiences ?   

 the guy who suggested the book. told me another friend of his with HIV had suggested the book to him . He read it and was suggesting the same book to me ? a family member had told me he passed away.   When I met him at a coffee shop he seemed sadder than any person I had ever met ?    When I asked him  why he was so out of sorts . He told me he had HIV. I kept talking with him ? I  was trying to be someone who would listen to him . Even when he had mentioned his desire to get some hereon ? I asked why would you want  that in your life ? He said you should try it i? I thought no thanks life is hard enough without adding that to your life ?  how do you help someone who wants you join them in a hereon drug experience ? sorry but I did not want to try hereon ?  saving him seemed to me to out of my ability of things to accomplish. when someone told me he had passed away .  Many people I have known have passed away some who did not even have HIV still have died ?   the world is a strange and scary place .

people ?  go figure ?  I do not understand ?  I did not mention that in the last post 


the movie about illnesses ?  the magic bullets .  the arsenic treatment and how people back then used to take the treatment thinking they might not get sick and live longer and not get the illness a sort of PREP . Before hiv was known people had the same idea ?

new ideas are just old ideas brought back to life as new discoveries  even though similar things have already happened


about not being crazy ? try proving that some time ?   the more you say you are not crazy the crazier you came across as being. a ketch 22 scenario. 

apparently no one read the book ? or thought it worth their time ?

to me it was a good read


thank you for letting me share my thoughts on my experiences with HIV

[Matty the Damned]

I thought I might have ? I did not realize it was read 1313 times.  started  in April . You recalled reading it .  what do you think about the parallels of typhoid mary and the way people with HIV have been treated ?

I wonder if anyone who read that read the book ? no one posted any thoughts ? SO I guess no one reads books anymore ?

I can say this when I read it I thought how hard her life must have been ? then I thought everyone with HIV has had a similar road to walk


  sorry it helped me many years ago to think that this type of experience of getting an illness and how it happened  to others before me . gave me perspective on the repetitive nature of living.   

the thought of how these new things are so similar to old things.

I thought about this many times . it gave me hope .   

If  I am repetitive so is life ? 

the hope that people over came just such hardships might inspire others and myself .
that this too might be overcome ?

just trying to find a way to share these experiences ?   

 the guy who suggested the book. told me another friend of his with HIV had suggested the book to him . He read it and was suggesting the same book to me ? a family member had told me he passed away.   When I met him at a coffee shop he seemed sadder than any person I had ever met ?    When I asked him  why he was so out of sorts . He told me he had HIV. I kept talking with him ? I  was trying to be someone who would listen to him . Even when he had mentioned his desire to get some hereon ? I asked why would you want  that in your life ? He said you should try it i? I thought no thanks life is hard enough without adding that to your life ?  how do you help someone who wants you join them in a hereon drug experience ? sorry but I did not want to try hereon ?  saving him seemed to me to out of my ability of things to accomplish. when someone told me he had passed away .  Many people I have known have passed away some who did not even have HIV still have died ?   the world is a strange and scary place .

people ?  go figure ?  I do not understand ?  I did not mention that in the last post 


the movie about illnesses ?  the magic bullets .  the arsenic treatment and how people back then used to take the treatment thinking they might not get sick and live longer and not get the illness a sort of PREP . Before hiv was known people had the same idea ?

new ideas are just old ideas brought back to life as new discoveries  even though similar things have already happened


about not being crazy ? try proving that some time ?   the more you say you are not crazy the crazier you came across as being. a ketch 22 scenario. 

apparently no one read the book ? or thought it worth their time ?

to me it was a good read


thank you for letting me share my thoughts on my experiences with HIV

Em

I have been away for a bit. Your words remind me of what matters,

MtD

[em]

hello MtD

good to hear from you .

Just wanted to add to this about the topic crazy

I heard a few times , Einstein was quoted. the def of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results .

My thought on his def . life is repetitive the results . 

so therefore by his def.  everyone is crazy.   

to misquote Forest Gump

Crazy is as crazy does .

that was just a movie.

Art imitating life . life imitating art.    an endless cycle

the guy i had mentioned he told me that he had dropped out of school , run away from home to go to Hollywood to be part of the entertainment industry was my guess. He came back home to try and put back  together his life . 

HIV had other plans . He like everyone else tried to find what made him happy 

sorry for the long responses.   those of us who are still among the living keep those who have passed in our hearts and minds . 

this one comes to mind of the flower that blooms in adversity.

is the the most beautiful ( from Disney's Mulan )

this my thought on that statement .

 in that it over came that adversity and therefor gives hope and is the most welcome gift of life . 

Please pardon the non short blurb nature of my response . I am old and do not think in the modern way of the internet .

all the best to you
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EM