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Author Topic: The risk of HIV transmission from precum on the fingers putting on a condom  (Read 3645 times)

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Hi. I am not very active gay man, but sometimes I have unprotected oral sex, and always protected anal sex. I had a situation last year that worries me a lot lately.The reason for that is because I've been ill 3 times for 7 months now.I know it's a flu season, but still...
Anyway, last summer, during my trip in Europe I wanted to have some fun. bad luck is that I was chewing gum and bite cheek few times.I saw some blood.I didn't want that to ruin my night, so I was kissing with a guy  (maybe one or 2 hours after I bit my cheek)
The next day (24 hours after) I gave a quick bj to a guy. I was aware that it's not smart to do that, so I quit. No ejaculation was involved.
What do you think what was the chance for the infection considering my wound in mouth? I have to say that wound was not bleeding before both incidents.
I know that people and experts in forum state that oral sex is no risk, or low risk...but I want to know if my situation is one that may increase the risk talking about oral sex.
Thank you

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You are worrying needlessly about HIV in relation to those incidents.  Your saliva contains over a dozen elements and proteins which form a very effective barrier against the transmission of viable HIV.

The only confirmed risks for the sexual transmission of HIV are unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse. 

If you have persisten troubling symptoms you should discuss them with your doctor.  They have nothing to do with HIV and there is no need for testing.
Andy Velez

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Thank you very much.
You understand that I am scared mostly because that wound that I don't know if it was healed enough, and I engaged oral sex and kissing.

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Yes, I understand the details of your concerns very well.  You were not at risk for HIV.

Period.
Andy Velez

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Re: The risk of HIV transmission from precum on the fingers putting on a condom
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2024, 06:06:50 am »
Hi. I recently had anal intercourse with 2 random guys on a vacation and here are some concerns.
1. I wanted to give a blowjob to the guy, but I felt a significant amount of precum so I spat it out immediately and stopped. Later we engaged in protected anal sex so I am worried that he might've had some precum on his fingers while putting the condom on (he masturbated before that) Also, he was checking if he was putting the condom on the right side, so the precum from his fingers or his penis could've ended up on the surface of the condom before he inserted it into my anus. The condom was properly used after and didn't break. We used water-based lube, but I haven't had anal sex for a long period so my anus could have been a bit torn. Also, we used his condom and I don't know the quality or if the date was expired.
2. The second we had oral and anal sex with my condom, he ejaculated inside my anus with the condom on. We checked the condom was not broken. Does ejaculation inside a condom put me at a higher risk than ejaculation outside the body? Was I a risk from all situations I mentioned above? Thank you for you answer

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Re: The risk of HIV transmission from precum on the fingers putting on a condom
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2024, 06:47:38 am »
I read your post multiple times. You sound stressed but there is no reason to be stressed. You gave a blowjob, masturbated and had anal sex whilst on vacation.

Giving a blowjob, the mouth generally lacks a route for HIV to infect also there are barriers such as saliva that neutralizes HIV by damaging the receptors needed to infect human cells. Giving a blowjob is such a minute HIV risk that it doesn't warrant HIV concern or testing outside of routine. (In short; it's not an HIV risk)

As for the intercourse, HIV can't be transmitted through an intact latex, polyisoprene or polyurethane condom. Unless a condom obviously fails during intercourse, there is no reason to be stressing about HIV or testing for HIV outside the standard yearly HIV screening. In other words, no HIV risk.

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Also, he was checking if he was putting the condom on the right side, so the precum from his fingers or his penis could've ended up on the surface of the condom before he inserted it into my anus

Not an HIV risk. lacks several conditions needed for HIV to be a concern.

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Was I a risk from all situations I mentioned above?

Sure, for easier-to-transmit STIs, exsample some STIs can be transmitted through skin contact in the areas not covered by condoms, in short, there are always risks when you have sex, however, there is no need to panic about STIs every time you have sex, generally I would say just keep using condoms and get a routine STI screening yearly.

Perhaps talk to your healthcare provider about PrEP and DoxyPrEP as additional layers against HIV & STIs. HIV PrEP might give you some additional peace of mind for the next time you have sex in addition to an extra layer of HIV prevention. 

Here's what you need to know to reduce your HIV risks:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse correctly and consistently, with no exceptions. Consider talking to your healthcare provider about PrEP as an additional layer of protection against HIV and get vaccinated against HPV, Hepatitis A & B.

Keep in mind that some sexual practices described as safe in terms of acquiring HIV still pose a risk for other easier-acquired STIs. So please do get tested at least yearly for STIs, including but not limited to HIV, and more frequently if condomless intercourse occurs.

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms; testing is the only way to know.

Kind regards

Jim

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