You *DO* realize how expensive Europe is right now don't you?
As long as we are able to accommodate all of Philly's needs everything should be fine. ;D
I have one question is there any nationality that philly has not experienced?
Just had to ask..... :)
Amsterdamnit!
Barcelona or Caracas :D
Milker (who would wear a pink Boa)
Right...someone will have to teach me how to put one of those 'poll'/vote type things on this thread. Then we'll see where to go from here. its a relatively short space of time so please bear in mind practicalities, and let me know what kind of activities (philly....no! :D) you would like provided, how structured you want things...whatever!
Before we start a poll on this subject, I think it's worth clarifying if we are talking about a REGIONAL Gathering, or the annual AMG.
As the original post in this thread can no longer be modified, a poll cannot be added to this thread, so a new thread would have to be started for a poll. But as I say, it would be helpful if we first established whether we are talking regional or annual.
Ann
Of course is this was like a midyear gathering in Europe, I am in need of some outstanding poppers and think philly is on to something.
Thanks,
Woods
Before we start a poll on this subject, I think it's worth clarifying if we are talking about a REGIONAL Gathering, or the annual AMG.
As the original post in this thread can no longer be modified, a poll cannot be added to this thread, so a new thread would have to be started for a poll. But as I say, it would be helpful if we first established whether we are talking regional or annual.
Ann
Why don't we first take a poll asking if AMG should be held as two yearly events, one in North America (frankly we all know the bulk of members are from here, or that's what I assume -- do you have stats on this accessible Miss Ann?) and one elsewhere outside of North America, which we can assume will be continental Europe for now.
Then once that poll is complete depending on the result we can start one on a location, or two locations. (?)
Ideas on a post-card, please. ;)
One question; What about the Grants Committee? Can we realistically expect to raise two lots of grant monies per year?
While I think it would be nice to have an AMG in Europe, I don't think it should replace the one in the US. It's not funded by A-M, POZ®, or any other entity. What funds an AMG are 1) individuals paying their own way 2) members covering costs for another member and 3) donations from individuals that assist people to attend. There is no 'governing body' over the AMG's. I think, perhaps, somebody who attended the first AMG could give a bit more insight as to how it originated and how informal an AMG is. There's nothing keeping our European members from organizing an AMG to be held in Europe. In fact, it would be great. I seriously doubt if the 40+ members from the US would be able to attend. My suggestion would be to start a post inquiring who's interested in a European AMG. Take suggestions as to location. Vote on the location. Vote on a date. Find people who are willing to be your 'Dennis', Allan, Jan, Rocky, and many others. Set up a Grants Committee (if you want to go this route). In other words, have an AMG. I'm sure that some from over here will attend. If there's a Grants Committee, more will be able to attend. Basically, start planning an AMG to be held in Europe!
David (who'd love to go to the UK but doesn't see it happening anytime soon. Sponsors, anyone? ;) )
I refuse to be cooped up in a plane for 20 hours to visit a penal colony, frankly.
Also, you do realise that over 50,000 convicts were transported from England and Ireland to the USA before you got independance, don't you?
Chicago would definitely get my vote.
Has Niagara Falls ever been cosidered?
Hopefully not.:D
:D
Has Niagara Falls ever been cosidered?
http://www.niagarafallslive.com/index.htm
http://www.infoniagara.com/index.html
You *DO* realize how expensive Europe is right now don't you? The exchange rate is atrocious.The Carribean would be great!
Let's do Puerto Rico!!!
i would be interested to know whether emma (gemini) would have been so stressed as to cancel her trip to amg if it had been held in a poz-friendly country. i for one had nightmares for days before taking the trip. and it was evident from posts on the forums that some people did not feel safe to come because of the issue of trying to bring in meds, and so missed out on amg.
Pardon my ignorance for not having the time to do research on this subject more before posting this, but, being Puerto Rico a "Commonwealth" NOT a state of the US, I was wondering if these same laws exist while traveling to the Carribean. I know many US laws are the same, but I go in and out with my meds and have never been asked about them even when the Fuzeon syringes appear on the x-ray screen. Any input out there of those Europeans who have visited my island? ???
I was hoping the issue of non-citizens HIV+ individuals entering the US had improved; I'd heard Bush's mentioning it was going to change, but I guess hearing him say something and actually seeing happen it are two different things...
and I think it fair that our European members get a chance for the short flights!
there MAY be an opportunity on the Isle of Man for a venue.
I like the idea of having an AMG in NA as well as in Europe. Go to both, or one, or the other, something for everyone. I still feel very strongly about the East Coast, most of that being due to the fact that I suffer extreme fatigue when traveling. I like the idea of Philly or Baltimore, have NO desire to venture into NYC for anything, lol! Chicago sounds great, but what about Riviera maya (south of Cancun) or Aruba? Less expensive in Mexico, not sure about Aruba, but it would be a middle point for most, wouldn't it? What about Savannah, GA? Hot as balls in September, but a beautiful town, and Thunter would definitely be there! ;)
~Cindy
Europe, Asia, U.S, South America...it doesn't matter.
I'd go to hell if I had to; just as long as I get to see everyone again.
Rich
(who misses everyone already)
I really can't imagine going to Mexico at the height of summer, and that includes September down there. The prices are cheaper for a reason -- the climate is nasty those months.
And I agree with Cliff, when you have a bunch of HIVers do you really want to be around questionable water supplies? I've personally traveled to such countries with HIV but it is a big risk, certainly depending on how your lab numbers are.
btw, when I said Mexico at the height of summer I was particularly thinking of the Yucatan, as it's the Caribbean type of climate as opposed to Mexico City which is a higher attitude than somewhere like Denver even. For example Mexico City is currently 66F/18C.
My issue is more humidity than temperature. The Caribbean is just very humid at the heigh of summer... think going to Miami in August. I wouldn't spend money on that myself.
ugh not ottawa please >:(
the only interest is that when you cross the river you're suddenly in France and everyone speaks French to you. Then you cross back and you're back to England. Apart from that, this is a dull city.
Milker.
then I'll go off to fulfill my Sicilian fantasy.
I get Sicily every day in the neighborhood I live in :)Sicily is beautiful, like Corsica, but I'm not sure what a bunch of HIV positive people would do there. And how Corleone would react.
I'll be heading for the Costa Smeralda in Sardinia for some Campari and Cock.Only you can find cock in Sardinia :D
Also, do you actually need a PASSPORT these days, or can you still get by with the birth certificate and driver's license, like I did in 2000 and 2003?
I would think for the bargain that the rest of the world is getting in the US they'd all be clamoring to visit, which I guess would be the case except for the HIV med worries (which, while I totally understand I think is quite over-hyped).another reason that people dont like to visit the US is because we all get treated SOOOOO badly at immigration that even our governments have complained about it to your government, your government had to request port authority staff to be less rude and the city of new york has just launched an ad campaign using celebrities to try to lure people back. honestly it really is a dreadful and pretty intimidating experience going through border control, even for the general public hiv not even in the equation. very sad that it's so but i actually know quite a few people who have been put off visiting despite the weakness of the dollar cos of past bad experiences.
That said, once you pay for a flight and save up money for the hotel, you're going to be slammed with day-to-day prices because the US dollar sticks royally. It's really a travesty. When I went to Iceland last year I recall paying $10 FOR A HOT DOG at a rest stop no less. Iceland is more expensive than mainland Europe, but still... expect $8 for a piece of dust on the floor. Forget ordering a steak anywhere.it's not just cos the dollar is weak - some parts of europe are just REALLY expensive. i sympathise! melia and i noticed at amg that what US folks think is expensive (eg for food) is actually what we normally pay. no wonder i never have enough money!!
No philly, not going in circles. Folks just voicing ideas and opinions here.
I get Sicily every day in the neighborhood I live in :)
What about Bermuda?
There are non-stop flights from London (British Airways through Gatwick), so we can avoid the problem of U.S. entry restrictions for European members. There are also non-stops from many cities in the U.S., including Chicago and many cities on the east coast. I'm not sure how members from Australia & New Zealand could avoid connections in the U.S.
AllanQ
What about the British Virgin Islands ?
While there may be a few Brits amongst us, I can guarantee there are no virgins.i believe i am a 'technical' virgin it's been that long >:(
One question; What about the Grants Committee? Can we realistically expect to raise two lots of grant monies per year?
Cheap? Accessible?, Loads of fun?. I vote for Cuba, which is totally accessible for U.S. Citizens via Mexico, or other Central American connections, and easily accessible for any of our off shore forum members directly. ;)you naughty man...
Are there any restrictions?Bring the booze! :o :o :o 8) 8) 8) :P :P :P
Hiya folks
Just one question - who can join? I have joined the forum for almost a month now and unless it's in some really far off places like the Sealand I would like to join the next one, be it in NA or Europe, and with my own expenses if my work schedule allows it. Are there any restrictions?
Thanks,
Shaun
Sean, we always welcome boys carrying vibrating dildos from Hong Kong.
What about Liechtenstein?
I'm surprised that nobody's suggested Berlin. Doesn't that have the sleaziest sex clubs right now? I know my fisting top ex can't get enough of it... well, that and Rio.oh yes I always wanted to go. But do I really want to go with AM members ???
I'm not sure concentration on what is the best alcohol city for AMG is what we want here.bitch
How about Tehran?
Philly, I'm sorry you feel that way.
-Topher
it's just too bad the city cops cracked down on the P St. beach.They haven't :D
DC is about the most tired place on the planet.
But don't they have the only strip clubs where the guys can go full-front in the entire US of A! ;D
Not in a very good area though....
But don't they have the only strip clubs where the guys can go full-front in the entire US of A! ;DThey must have one piece of garment. That's why they have one sock :D Tea bagging is illegal but it pleases congressmen so much that police looks away..
Not in a very good area though....
They must have one piece of garment. That's why they have one sock :D Tea bagging is illegal but it pleases congressmen so much that police looks away..
Milker (who wondered how those guys can dance and be hard at the same time.. but I digress)
DC is about the most tired place on the planet.
I'm surprised that nobody's suggested Berlin
BTW, what's the crime situation like there nowadays?
"So do you like big uncut dicks?"
And it was... he also urinated all over me twice.
Amusingly he worked at the UN.