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HIV possible risk and recommended testing
« on: June 06, 2022, 04:31:16 pm »
Hello everybody, before everything, thank you so much for this blog. A little background: Male 23 years, I live in Miami, US. My sexual orientation is straight but after a few drinks I decided to "explore" new things. I went yesterday evening to a bathhouse, where I had two “exposures” that, according to what I've read, weren’t really exposures.
 
1. Protected Anal sex (Topping) with another male. The condom didn’t break (or at least no noticeable, I removed it intact) and I didn’t ejaculate. Regarding this exposure I'm not really concerned. I asked the guy about his status and he told me that he was free of std, and that he "plays safe". I will trust him, so I'm ok.

2. After the first exposure, Unprotected oral sex. I gave and received from another guy (no related to the first one). He mostly did all the oral sex and I gave him Oral sex for a few seconds, I would say not even a minute. There wasn't ejaculation on mouth. I know from previous posts and other resources it is a extremely low and even could be considered a no risk exposure but after I finished I noticed that had blood in my mouth, I don't have any cut, sore or wound in my mouth and I checked right there, after cleaning my mouth, I think it was my blood, probably he bit my lips or something like that. Also he was the one who gave me the oral sex in most of the time, so I didn't come in contact with many fluids, probably only precum of the brief giving, but as far as I remember, I don't recall blood in that moment, it had to be after the blowjob, because most of the time we were just french kissing with handjobs. Of course I started panicking, it was my first MSM experience and I also started wondering if the blood was from the guy. I also asked his status before starting and he told me that he was all clear, but we didn't go deep in the conversation. I'm hoping he wasn't lying. And regarding sexual intercourse, he told me that he was a top only, no bottom. That I believe decrease a little bit more a possible risk.

Again, I already know that they are basically no risk exposures, but I want to know if having the bleeding in my mouth increase in some way my risk. As I said before, I don't have any cut or wound in my mouth, I have checked it in detail.

Anyways. I would like to close this topic asap, and I saw that the HIV RNA test (HIV 1/2 Qualitative RNA, RT-PCR from LabCorp) provides an accuracy of 95-99% after 10 days. I'm planning on taking it in 2 weeks.

What do you think about my exposure? With the RNA can I move on? Sorry for the long text, I just want to explain my whole situation.

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Re: HIV possible risk and recommended testing
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2022, 04:37:42 pm »
Hiya,

Kissing, handjobs and receiving a blowjob ins't an HIV risk to you.

As for intercourse, HIV can't transmit through an intact latex or polyurethane condom. Unless a condom obviously fails during intercourse, there is no reason to be stressing or testing for HIV outside of the standard yearly routine.

As for giving a blowjob, the mouth generally lacks a route for HIV to infect unless you had ageing open holes like meth mouth and even then saliva also neutralises HIV by damaging the receptors needed to infect human cells. It's such a minute HIV risk that it doesn't warrant specific testing outside of the standard yearly screening.

So you had no specific exposure to test over and if you had had an exposure that warranted concern I would have recommended testing at 6 weeks with the labs HIV antibodies test, not pissing about with RNA test and definitely not at 10 days.

Move on with your life, stop freaking out over nothing!

Here's what you need to know to avoid HIV infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse correctly and consistently, with no exceptions. Consider talking to your healthcare provider about PrEP as an additional layer of protection against HIV

Keep in mind that some sexual practices described as safe in terms of acquiring HIV still pose a risk for other easier acquired STIs. So please do get tested at least yearly for STIs, including but not limited to HIV, and more frequently if condomless intercourse occurs.

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms, and the only way of knowing is by testing.

Kind regards

Jim

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Re: HIV possible risk and recommended testing
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2022, 04:48:32 pm »
Thank you for the quick answer Jim. Yes, you are right. I'm probably overreacting. Unfortunately what made me start worrying by a lot was the blood in my mouth. As you said, I don't have any big opening or wound in my mouth. Maybe some bleeding gums but not something big I guess. I think I just need to empty my mind and relax a little bit.

So you say that I wouldn't need testing for these exposures? Or should I check with a 4th gen? I will try to be calmed until week 6, but I don't know if I can take it a little earlier for some reassurance, it doesn't matter if it's not fully conclusive.

Again, thank you for your quick answer, I will try to focus in other things and leave this behind.

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Re: HIV possible risk and recommended testing
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2022, 04:54:17 pm »
Even if you had a gaping hole in your mouth, I would be telling you to move on with your life.

So, no HIV testing is needed outside of standard yearly screening.
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Re: HIV possible risk and recommended testing
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2022, 07:57:11 pm »
Thank you Jim. So to close:
Risk was non existent for both exposures. Regardless of the prescience of blood in my mouth. When you say “minute HIV risk” means that the risk is almost nil, at least in the real world, it’s only theoretical. I was reading that there has never been documented cases?
I will move on without further testing as you said

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Re: HIV possible risk and recommended testing
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2022, 12:24:34 am »
Minute: Insignificant or tiny.

There has never been a case of someone acquiring HIV from being sucked, and it's not an HIV risk considering the certain conditions needed and the barriers to this being a risk, as for giving a blowjob the risk is minute i.e so small that it does not warrant stress or testing over outside of standard yearly HIV screening.

So relax, and move on with your life. Remember to use condoms for any intercourse, and as you are sexually active, test yearly for HIV & STIs. Consider talking to your healthcare provider about PrEP as an additional layer of HIV prevention.
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