Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
August 08, 2022, 01:22:50 am

Login with username, password and session length


Members
Stats
  • Total Posts: 765436
  • Total Topics: 65248
  • Online Today: 113
  • Online Ever: 5484
  • (June 18, 2021, 11:15:29 pm)
Users Online
Users: 3
Guests: 111
Total: 114

Welcome


Welcome to the POZ Community Forums, a round-the-clock discussion area for people with HIV/AIDS, their friends/family/caregivers, and others concerned about HIV/AIDS.  Click on the links below to browse our various forums; scroll down for a glance at the most recent posts; or join in the conversation yourself by registering on the left side of this page.

Privacy Warning:  Please realize that these forums are open to all, and are fully searchable via Google and other search engines. If you are HIV positive and disclose this in our forums, then it is almost the same thing as telling the whole world (or at least the World Wide Web). If this concerns you, then do not use a username or avatar that are self-identifying in any way. We do not allow the deletion of anything you post in these forums, so think before you post.

  • The information shared in these forums, by moderators and members, is designed to complement, not replace, the relationship between an individual and his/her own physician.

  • All members of these forums are, by default, not considered to be licensed medical providers. If otherwise, users must clearly define themselves as such.

  • Forums members must behave at all times with respect and honesty. Posting guidelines, including time-out and banning policies, have been established by the moderators of these forums. Click here for “Do I Have HIV?” posting guidelines. Click here for posting guidelines pertaining to all other POZ community forums.

  • We ask all forums members to provide references for health/medical/scientific information they provide, when it is not a personal experience being discussed. Please provide hyperlinks with full URLs or full citations of published works not available via the Internet. Additionally, all forums members must post information which are true and correct to their knowledge.

  • Product advertisement—including links; banners; editorial content; and clinical trial, study or survey participation—is strictly prohibited by forums members unless permission has been secured from POZ.

To change forums navigation language settings, click here (members only), Register now

Para cambiar sus preferencias de los foros en español, haz clic aquí (sólo miembros), Regístrate ahora

Finished Reading This? You can collapse this or any other box on this page by clicking the symbol in each box.

Welcome to Do I Have HIV?

Welcome to the "Do I Have HIV?" POZ forum.

This special section of the POZ forum is for individuals who have concerns about whether or not they are HIV positive. Individuals are permitted to post up to three questions or responses in this forum.

Ongoing participation in the "Do I Have HIV?" forum (posting more than three questions or responses) requires a paid subscription, with secure payments made via PayPal.

A seven-day subscription is $9.99, a 30-day subscription is $14.99 and a 90-day subscription is $24.99.

Anyone who needs to post more than three messages in the "Do I Have HIV?" forum -- including past, present and future POZ Forums members -- will need to subscribe, with secure payments made via PayPal.

There is no charge to read threads in the "Do I Have HIV?" forum, nor will there be a charge for participating in any of the other POZ forums. In addition, the POZ Basics "HIV Transmission and Risks" and "HIV Testing" basics, will remain accessible to all.

NOTE: HIV testing questions will still need to be posted in the "Do I Have HIV?" forum; attempts to post HIV symptoms or testing questions in any other forums will be considered violations of our rules of membership and subject to time-outs and permanent bans.

To learn how to upgrade your Forums account to participate beyond three posts in the "Do I Have HIV?" Forum, please click here.

Thank you for your understanding and future support of the best online support service for people living with, affected by and at risk for HIV.

Author Topic: HIV in Kissing and Receiving Oral Sex to Someone with High Viral Load  (Read 827 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline RodnyBlu

  • Standard
  • New Member
  • Posts: 2
Thank you in advance for reading my post. I'm currently in a torture right now while waiting for my HIV test. I met this guy and now we are dating, we kiss (like pat on the lips).

One time we have like a torrid deep kiss, with tongue and I feel like I strip a skin/layer on his lips, its red but not bleeding (it's like when your lips is dry and there are white skin and been remove), but it's red. I've never tasted blood when we did it, its just that a portion of the upper lip is red. And I also received a blowjob from him, and he tried to put it like very deep.

Unfortunately he was tested positive for HIV and has a CD4 count of 64, and he has rashes. He's not yet on treatment, for he was required first to take some series of tests.

Am I already at risk since I assume he has a very high viral load? What are my chances of getting HIV? I'm scared but I'm already preparing myself for a positive result.

Online Jim Allen

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 19,160
  • Twitter @JimAllenDublin
    • HIV Lessons
Hiya,

Read your post three times, You did not acquire HIV from the activities posted here, that much is certain, also these activities require no HIV testing whatsoever.

Receiving a blowjob isn't an HIV risk to you. It lacks the conditions required for acquiring HIV, thus it makes sense that after 40 years of this pandemic in terms of BJ's, there hasn't been a single documented case of HIV transmission to an insertive partner (the person being "sucked"), and you will not be the worlds first.

Kissing also isn't an HIV risk to you.

Quote
Unfortunately he was tested positive for HIV and has a CD4 count of 64, and he has rashes. He's not yet on treatment, for he was required first to take some series of tests.

Sorry to hear that your partner has been diagnosed with HIV. Hopefully, they can start treatment soon to suppress the virus and that will allow their immune system to recover.

If you are still dating, then prehaps you should read this to help understand and support your partner:
https://www.poz.com/basics/hiv-basics/newly-diagnosed
https://www.poz.com/basics/hiv-basics/starting-hiv-treatment

Also, you should know that once a person living with HIV (PLHIV) is on antiretroviral therapy (ART) and has achieved an undetectable viral load* in their blood for 6+ months, they can not sexually pass on HIV.  Meaning at that point in time, even if condomless intercourse occurs they can't pass it on.

https://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=71864.0
 
Here's what you need to know to avoid HIV infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse correctly and consistently, with no exceptions. Consider talking to your healthcare provider about PrEP as an additional layer of protection against HIV

Keep in mind that some sexual practices described as safe in terms of acquiring HIV still pose a risk for other easier acquired STIs. So please do get tested at least yearly for STIs, including but not limited to HIV, and more frequently if condomless intercourse occurs.

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms, and the only way of knowing is by testing.

Kind regards

Jim

Please Note.
As a member of the "Do I have HIV" Forum, you are required to only post in this one thread no matter how long between visits or the subject matter. You can find this thread by going to your profile and selecting show own post, and it will take you here. It helps us to help you when you keep all your thoughts or questions in one thread, and it helps other readers to follow the discussion. Any additional threads will removed.
HIV 101 - Everything you need to know
HIV 101
Read more about Testing here:
HIV Testing
Read about Treatment-as-Prevention (TasP) here:
HIV TasP
You can read about HIV prevention here:
HIV prevention
Read about PEP and PrEP here
PEP and PrEP

Offline RodnyBlu

  • Standard
  • New Member
  • Posts: 2
We did a very torrid kiss, very deep with saliva all over our mouth and so as he when I received a blowjob from. Since he has low cd4 count (64), it's clear that he already has a large number of HIV copies in his blood. Does it like affect how the saliva neutralizes the virus since it's too many copies are already present? Does it post already a significant risk on my case since I deep kiss a HIV+ guy with high viral load?
« Last Edit: June 03, 2022, 08:06:20 pm by RodnyBlu »

Online Jim Allen

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 19,160
  • Twitter @JimAllenDublin
    • HIV Lessons
Quote
Since he has low cd4 count (64), it's clear that he already has a large number of HIV copies in his blood

Although often true it's not always the case that someone living with HIV who has a low CD4 count will have a high viral load.

Anyhow, back to the point, regardless of the viral load, it wasn't an HIV risk to you, so you did not acquire HIV from the activities posted here.
« Last Edit: June 04, 2022, 12:02:55 am by Jim Allen »
HIV 101 - Everything you need to know
HIV 101
Read more about Testing here:
HIV Testing
Read about Treatment-as-Prevention (TasP) here:
HIV TasP
You can read about HIV prevention here:
HIV prevention
Read about PEP and PrEP here
PEP and PrEP

 


Terms of Membership for these forums
 

© 2022 Smart + Strong. All Rights Reserved.   terms of use and your privacy
Smart + Strong® is a registered trademark of CDM Publishing, LLC.