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Title: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: tednlou2 on April 15, 2013, 03:33:57 pm
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbcnews.com/51546697
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: klouny on April 15, 2013, 04:22:01 pm
this saddens me to no end
i was having a great day enjoying the weather when i began hearing this horrible news :(
whats wrong with people ?
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: tednlou2 on April 15, 2013, 04:44:14 pm
You can see spectators took most of the hit.  Officials are reporting amputations.  At least 2 dead, with over 20 injured.  My good friend was in the race.  I talked to him this morning, as he was getting there.

I have been trying to reach him, but haven't been able to make contact.  As it appears most of the injured were spectators, I assume he is ok, but just hasn't made it back to his phone.  I'm seeing the blood-stained sidewalk, and they accidentally showed someone badly mangled.  This is the friend, who made the graph about marriage equality polls vs interracial marriage equality polls, that I recently posted here. 

Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mecch on April 15, 2013, 05:24:12 pm
Another explosion occurred at the JFK Library, but authorities were unsure if the incidents were linked.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/15/boston-marathon-explosion_n_3086665.html

No shit Sherlock.  linked.

WTF...
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 15, 2013, 05:37:52 pm
Actually it was wise to say that might not be linked because now it seems (per CNN via Boston Globe) it was a mechanical room fire at the library that just happened to occur an hour or so after the bombs.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: bocker3 on April 15, 2013, 05:49:41 pm
NBC news didn't want to call the JFK "incident" an explosion -- but the Boston Police Commissioner did during a new conference.  So, I think there is still some confusion, as I think I'd believe him over CNN.

Now over 100 injured.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: tednlou2 on April 15, 2013, 05:52:21 pm
The President to speak at 6:10pm EDT.

Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 15, 2013, 05:59:24 pm
NBC news didn't want to call the JFK "incident" an explosion -- but the Boston Police Commissioner did during a new conference.  So, I think there is still some confusion, as I think I'd believe him over CNN.

That's nice, but the Boston Police Commissione just said otherwise. It was an unrelated fire.

And for some of the reporting going around via Murdoch's NY Post and being repeated on Faux News, there IS NO ONE IN CUSTODY, much less a Saudi national. This is also repeated by the Boston Police Commissioner.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: bocker3 on April 15, 2013, 06:12:13 pm
Yes, the Commisioner did just back off his earlier statement.  It was so far away, that it did not make much sense, but you would think the Police Commisioner would know when to say rhings.

Mike
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: tednlou2 on April 15, 2013, 06:38:01 pm
I finally made contact with my friend in the race.  He crossed the finish line before this happened.  I knew he had friends running, so I did have some concern he may have waited in the spectator area to watch them cross, as he usually beats them. 

I does make you think.  He had called last night to talk.  He wants me to run in a marathon with him, back in our hometown this fall.  I missed it, and then didn't feel like returning the call.  I am not sure I want to commit to that, so instead I put off the call.  I did get to talk to him briefly this morning, but I will always try to call everyone back from now on. 
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Joe K on April 15, 2013, 06:50:17 pm
Sometimes, I am simply unable to fathom the utter evil that would permit someone to do such a thing.  It is simply too painful for words.  Utter, unspeakable evil.

Joe
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 15, 2013, 07:14:23 pm
Truly unspeakable evil.

An 8 year old boy among the reported dead. As a father my heart is aching.

My thoughts and prayers out to all affected.

-W
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: britchick on April 16, 2013, 05:06:03 am
Such sad news.It makes me angry too.....so many people injured and loss of life for no valid reason.

Britchickx
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: spacebarsux on April 16, 2013, 05:54:39 am
Terrible, saddening news. Really angers me. Watching the explosion video footage was really painful.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: MarkB on April 16, 2013, 06:25:10 am
Over here, we are getting reports of marathon runners who crossed the finishing line and then ran on to the Massachusetts General Hospital to donate blood. I'm reminded of the people of Newtown, CT who in the aftermath of their own unspeakable tragedy simply said "we choose love". What has happened among you shows us the worst of humanity; and the selfless actions of those who responded shows us its best.

I wish I could find words that don't sound like platitudes; from this small corner of the world, however, all I can do is express my profound sorrow at what has happened, and choose love. For what it's worth, my care and thoughts are with you today.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Andy Velez on April 16, 2013, 08:35:48 am
Ted, I'm glad your friend is ok.

I'm shocked and grieving for those who were killed and those who were maimed for life. It's hard to take it in.

...just awful.

Hugs to all.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Jeff G on April 16, 2013, 05:12:01 pm
Im getting angry and its way too soon to feel this way but all the news networks are regurgitating the same story over and over again . I'm sickened by what happened and I want answers and updates but the evidence that the coverage is a bit too much can be found when you realize how fast things that have turned out not to be true are getting reported .

Am I wrong ? , I don't remember so many errors being reported 10 years ago . It may be the competition in the 24 hour news cycle carries the blame .
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 16, 2013, 05:16:16 pm
You mean like Fox News using a report from the New York Post (both owned by Murdoch, natch) saying a Saudi national was detained by police, and then that naturally circulating endlessly for 24 hours around every right wing blog?

Turns out he's being questioned as a witness.

I didn't turn on the TV for news until a few minutes ago. That's your problem right there.

ps: will you girls worry about me when the large marathon in Philly passes right by my apartment in three weeks? Doubtful.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Jeff G on April 16, 2013, 05:27:15 pm
You mean like Fox News using a report from the New York Post (both owned by Murdoch, natch) saying a Saudi national was detained by police, and then that naturally circulating endlessly for 24 hours around every right wing blog?


Yes , things like that . To be fair and balanced I must report that its not just Faux news doing this , its all of them . I guess the world has sped up , everything is wired and instant now . Back in the 80's there was generally more time to fact check before something actually made it onto the airwaves . 
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 16, 2013, 07:03:08 pm
Now CNN is reporting that the poison ricin was just intercepted in the mail to a senator.

update: further testing CNN now reports has proven inconclusive

THANKS NEWS MEDIA
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 16, 2013, 09:36:10 pm
I'm getting the feeling that this bombing may be from a domestic group, maybe some patriot group or a group like "Sovereign Citizens", etc... I know the Boston Marathon would be a desired target for some of these groups, but also the fact that it occurred on Tax day makes me wonder, although that could just be coincidental.

I'm no terrorist expert but typically doesn't a foreign terror group usually claim responsibility by now?

Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 16, 2013, 10:16:41 pm
Maybe it's members of the Texas Nationalist Movement hellbent on raining destruction on the Sodom and Gomorrah along the Charles River.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: tednlou2 on April 17, 2013, 12:03:17 am
We have the country's biggest fireworks show coming up this Saturday.  When weather is good, we often have 800,000 lining the banks of the river.  Many are saying they aren't going and will not allow their kids to go.  This is unfortunate. 

It does get very crowded.  I actually prefer colder weather years.  If the weather is nice, you cannot move.  I don't like feeling I cannot leave, or even make it to a porta-potty.  On a chilly year, it would take 10 mins to walk to the bathrooms.  On a warm year, you are looking at an hour and a half.  Then, we have our Derby marathon coming up and the Derby.  Many are now afraid to go.  I'm going. 
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: 884422 on April 17, 2013, 01:43:19 am
In India and more developing nations, such blast are just like casual wears. More and more innocent peoples get killed without reasons but the difference is in developed countries and having more educated peoples, they tackle the problems and attacks with greater intelligence and courage.(http://mashable.com/2013/04/16/boston-marathon-acts-of-kindness/)
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 17, 2013, 12:29:47 pm
***BREAKING*** Ricin poisoned letter just sent to President Obama intercepted
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: bocker3 on April 17, 2013, 01:48:28 pm
CNN Reporting -- an arrest has been made in the Boston bombings.......
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: bocker3 on April 17, 2013, 02:34:23 pm
CNN now Reporting.....  Oops!  There has been a 'misunderstanding', no arrest has been made and no one is in custody. 

Ugh -- Why am working from home today -- time to switch to the classical music station........
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Dachshund on April 17, 2013, 03:23:05 pm
Marathon bombing suspect has been arrested and is in custody but has not been arrested and may not exist. Cable news is a cluster fuck.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Jeff G on April 17, 2013, 03:34:33 pm
Shoddy half ass reporting is the new norm it seems . How many times did Walter Cronkite ever have to walk back a story . I'm not saying those were the good old days but it begs the question what is the benefit of living in the information age if its misinformation .

Things like this bother me if you cant tell .
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Dachshund on April 17, 2013, 03:44:59 pm
CNN now reporting Obama received rice in the mail.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 17, 2013, 03:44:59 pm
News collection and dissemination is different in the Digital Age -- if you don't like it why don't you two old women go watch an Antique Roadshow or Duck Dynasty marathon.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Dachshund on April 17, 2013, 03:46:54 pm
Go fuck yourself you gossipy, craggy bitch. You're just upset that you're tardy to the party.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Dachshund on April 17, 2013, 03:49:49 pm
News collection and dissemination is different in the Digital Age -- if you don't like it why don't you two old women go watch an Antique Roadshow or Duck Dynasty marathon.

No retard, news collection and dissemination is not different in the digital age. It still needs to be correct before disseminated.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 17, 2013, 03:57:15 pm
... in with anger, out with love ::)
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 17, 2013, 07:56:40 pm
A guy from Tupelo, Mississippi has been arrested (http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20130417/NEWS/304170067/FBI-Secret-Service-Tupelo-investigating-ricin-letters) in connection with the two ricin poison letter.

Figures it was someone just 2 hours away from Birmingham.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Jeff G on April 17, 2013, 08:05:45 pm
Its a good thing they process mail away from the congress or White House but I sure hope they at least spring for some of those little paper mask for the guy in charge of the poison letter department .

I have been curious about what precautions are in place for the screeners .
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mecch on April 17, 2013, 08:05:58 pm
The letter, received by Wicker’s office on Tuesday, had a Memphis postmark and no return address, Senate Sergeant at Arms Terrance Gainer wrote in an e-mail to senators and aides. Tupelo’s mail is routed through Memphis.

The ricin was confirmed by preliminary tests on Tuesday. On Wednesday, Obama received a similar letter, and once again, preliminary tests showed there was ricin in it.

An FBI bulletin stated that both letters, postmarked April 8, included the identical phrase: "to see a wrong and not expose it, is to become a silent partner to its continuance."


___________


Color me confused.  What wrong did both Obama AND Wicker commit?  They are opposites..   

Not that a poison-letter vigilante maniac should be rational. 
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 17, 2013, 08:14:49 pm
Wicker was one of 16 Republicans to vote in favor of beginning the debate on gun control last week. Maybe this moron misread the headlines and thought he voted for gun control, not cloture. Seems logical that a gun nut would do that.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 17, 2013, 08:25:08 pm
Its a good thing they process mail away from the congress or White House but I sure hope they at least spring for some of those little paper mask for the guy in charge of the poison letter department .

I have been curious about what precautions are in place for the screeners .

I was curious about this as well, especially after one of the reports stated that Ricin was detected "in their filters they use to screen the letters" So Im guessing they run all these letters through a machine that runs air across the letters and then the air is sent through a series of detection filters?
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 17, 2013, 08:30:26 pm
After the anthrax/9-11 letters they set up facilities for the White House and Capital off-site somewhere. Everything is screened. I'm sure the staff is protected so don't worry your little heads.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mikeyb39 on April 17, 2013, 08:47:24 pm
Whats the world coming to.   it's so depressing.  There are so many mentally disturbed folks out there.  So many things you can't do anymore without watching your back if some crazy loon is gonna to hurt innocent people.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 17, 2013, 08:55:07 pm
Naw, this kind of stuff has been going on for ages (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1919_United_States_anarchist_bombings).
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 17, 2013, 09:11:10 pm
Further reporting (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/letter-to-obama-containing-suspicious-substance-intercepted-by-secret-service/2013/04/17/dd4b2152-a76e-11e2-a8e2-5b98cb59187f_story.html?hpid=z1) now says that they guy, Paul Kevin Curtis, is from Corinth, MS not Tupelo. Corinth is on the TN-MS border northeast of Tupelo.

Check out his web site before too much web traffic shuts it down: https://sites.google.com/site/paulkevincurtis/

Illegal organ harvesting conspiracy? orly 8)
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Jeff G on April 17, 2013, 09:18:19 pm
Further reporting (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/letter-to-obama-containing-suspicious-substance-intercepted-by-secret-service/2013/04/17/dd4b2152-a76e-11e2-a8e2-5b98cb59187f_story.html?hpid=z1) now says that they guy, Paul Kevin Curtis, is from Corinth, MS not Tupelo. Corinth is on the TN-MS border northeast of Tupelo.

Check out his web site before too much web traffic shuts it down: https://sites.google.com/site/paulkevincurtis/

Illegal organ harvesting conspiracy? orly 8)

Wow ... just wow .
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 17, 2013, 09:23:30 pm
fyi, I found that link because it's trending among mainstream news org reporters personal accounts on twitter. In a sparse area like northeast MS I can't imagine that it's not this guy -- how many with the same name can there be. Anyway, it's not "FBI official" or anything yet so take it as you should until then.

o noes -- there's more. SO.MUCH.MOAR

his flickr account (http://www.flickr.com/photos/17358634@N00/6395103769/) shows that he enjoyed being an Elvis impersonator. That is so totally full of redneck win I don't know what to say.

Kevin is also a Birther (https://twitter.com/kevincurtislive/status/266080146124070913)

we the people did not vote him in (nor did we the 1st term) it takes many years (and personal dedication towards TRUTH/JUSTICE)

And here he is on facebook (https://www.facebook.com/elvisguy4u). Seems he's a 1987 graduate from South Natchez High School in Natchez, Mississippi. Maybe Trey sucked him off.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 17, 2013, 09:36:55 pm

And here he is on facebook (https://www.facebook.com/elvisguy4u). Seems he's a 1987 graduate from South Natchez High School in Natchez, Mississippi. Maybe Trey sucked him off.

LMAO! No f*ckin way! Trey's classmate! ROFLMAO.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Jeff G on April 17, 2013, 09:39:21 pm
He is also a Prince impersonator ... you cant make this shit up .
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 17, 2013, 10:49:44 pm
This has nothing to do with the Boston Explosions Im sure, but West, Texas (WAco) has just had a massive fertilizer plant explode. Schools and nursing homes on fire. My son A firefighter, is responding right now with a crew from Temple, which is 40 miles away,  to help out.

Insane
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Jeff G on April 17, 2013, 10:54:48 pm
This has nothing to do with the Boston Explosions Im sure, but West, Texas (WAco) has just had a massive fertilizer plant explode. Schools and nursing homes on fire. My son A firefighter, is responding right now with a crew from Temple, which is 40 miles away,  to help out.

Insane

I read about this awhile ago ... Im wishing for the best for your son and hope he stays safe while he does his job . 
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 17, 2013, 11:30:13 pm
Things blow up all of the time in Waco.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: tednlou2 on April 17, 2013, 11:45:07 pm
After the anthrax/9-11 letters they set up facilities for the White House and Capital off-site somewhere. Everything is screened. I'm sure the staff is protected so don't worry your little heads.

It appears mail sent to the home offices of Congressional members is not screened.  A staffer for Sen. Levin received a letter at his office in Saginaw.  She thought it was suspicious and turned it over to authorities for testing.  She is being kept overnight in the hospital, as a precaution.  So, it would appear anyone could bypass screening, by just sending to their local offices. 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/04/17/obama-letter-suspicious-substance/2090465/
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 17, 2013, 11:55:26 pm
Well duh, Teddy. Do you actually think someone is going to pay taxes to screen mail in various congressional district offices?
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 18, 2013, 01:01:59 am
So hundreds of conservatives are now "sharing" this photo to their timelines on facebook saying it proves that Curtis is a "liberal terrorist" and that the liberal media will hide this:

(http://i45.tinypic.com/4udw6g.jpg)

They seem ignorant of the fact that he's a birther and wanted Ted Nugent to run for President, and that he's obviously mocking this car sticker because I kind of doubt an Elvis impersonator in rural Mississippi is going to own a Lexus.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: tednlou2 on April 18, 2013, 01:21:07 am
Well duh, Teddy. Do you actually think someone is going to pay taxes to screen mail in various congressional district offices?

Perhaps all mail to local offices should be routed to Washington first, and then sent back to local offices?  I realize that would defeat the purpose, as I think many send letters to local offices, thinking it will definitely be read and read more quickly.

On a side note, the comment sections of news sites have not disappointed.  Obama orchestrated the bombs and the letters, in order to take guns away.   ::)
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 18, 2013, 01:27:25 am
Ted, the goal isn't and never was to protect a singular Senate or House member. It was to protect the thousands of workers, as well as numerous Senate or House members, from exposure when they're in one of the four (I think that's how many there are) Senate /House Office Buildings surrounding the Capital building because an open letter containing anthrax, etc. would spread immediately through the entire system of air ventilation.

If the goal was to protect a singular House member they'd all have Secret Service protection 24/7. You do realize that they don't have that, right?
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: tednlou2 on April 18, 2013, 01:39:37 am
Ted, the goal isn't and never was to protect a singular Senate or House member. It was to protect the thousands of workers, as well as numerous Senate or House members, from exposure when they're in one of the four (I think that's how many there are) Senate /House Office Buildings surrounding the Capital building because an open letter containing anthrax, etc. would spread immediately through the entire system of air ventilation.

If the goal was to protect a singular House member they'd all have Secret Service protection 24/7. You do realize that they don't have that, right?

Ok, you don't have to talk down to me.  I do realize only the key leaders get protection.  I was just saying would it be such a big deal to route mail to Washington first, since the equipment is already in place.  I realize a nut could walk right into a local office, which would be a more likely attack, than mailing some toxic agent.  Well, I believe our representative's offices are at the federal building, so you would have to go through metal detectors first.  But, that's here in Louisville.  I know the offices out in the middle of nowhere are probably in strip malls.

Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 18, 2013, 02:49:10 am
Maybe you should write your local representative about your stellar idea.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: spacebarsux on April 18, 2013, 03:34:41 am
This article in the New Yorker on the Saudi Marathon Man makes some good points.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2013/04/the-saudi-marathon-man.html
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mecch on April 18, 2013, 07:57:20 am
From The New Yorker article: “If you want to know who we are, what America is, how we respond to evil—that’s it. Selflessly. Compassionately. Unafraid,” President Obama said. That was mostly true on Monday; a terrible day, when an eight-year-old boy was killed, his sister maimed, two others dead, and many more in critical condition. And yet, when there was so much to fear that we were so brave about, there was panic about a wounded man barely out of his teens who needed help. We get so close to all that Obama described. What’s missing? Is it humility?

Just sounds like profiling based on ethnicity or national origin.  It's not mysterious at all.  Human nature. There are reasons various members of any society profile this way, and obviously in this case it was useless, regrettable, waste of time, painful, objectionable. 

Don't see what this has to do with humility.  It often involves a lack of respect for the persons civil rights and due process.

So people (cops, cia, fbi, jouralists) who don't respect civil rights and due process in order to pursue their wish to profile.  Is it because of arrogance?  Ok, I can see that interpretation.  But humble pie isn't the remedy for these people.

They need to fucking intelligent enough to deal with INDIVIDUALS, not their preconceived ideas about others..   If they are fully convinced that "Saudis" are a threat to national security, well, so be it. But they need a brain that can hold CONTRADICTORY information in it, at the same time, that this particular saudi may well be an affable college student, not a terrorist.

Looking forward to the doc "The Central Park Five"   A lot of people were very well served by that catastrophe of profiling... Police, scared citizens, journalists.   Bunch of freaking imbeciles.

I feel the "fear of the other" is growing growing growing everywhere these days.

Obama's re-election could have been the opportunity for those who fear him, based on their profiling, to eat crow.  Well that didn't happen, did it.

Idiots double down, and get even more arrogant, if you wish.


Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 18, 2013, 08:03:38 pm
Last night's National Anthem at Boston Bruins game..

It should be sung like this all the time.

Amazing!

Turn it up!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbHMRpdk3_4
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: tednlou2 on April 18, 2013, 10:38:21 pm
Maybe you should write your local representative about your stellar idea.

There are no bad ideas in brainstorming.   ;)
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 19, 2013, 02:26:06 am
***BREAKING*** AP (http://news.yahoo.com/police-converge-neighborhood-outside-boston-055919935.html;_ylt=Ak14svqDMr4crPoShLRXyFOs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTFobDA1NWxyBG1pdANCcmVha2luZyBOZXdzBHBvcwMxBHNlYwNNZWRpYUJyZWFraW5nTmV3c1RlbXA-;_ylg=X3oDMTIxcTh2aTNlBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3BtaAR0ZXN0A040VV9ob21lcnVuYXBp;_ylv=3): Police converge on neighborhood outside Boston; reports of explosives being detonated

***BREAKING*** (Boston Globe (http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/04/18/mit-police-officer-hit-gunfire-cambridge-police-dispatcher-says/4UeCClOVeLr8PHLvDa99zK/story.html)) Bombing suspect in custody, another remains on the loose
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: jkinatl2 on April 19, 2013, 02:29:46 am
Been following it since about 11:30 on reddit and

http://livewire.wcvb.com/Event/117th_Running_of_Boston_Marathon

Local news and tweets/videos/facebook updates are totally scooping all the major news outlets.

Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 19, 2013, 02:45:00 am
Yeah, I saw it a couple of hours ago but at that time it seemed like it might not be connected. Seems like a second guy might be in custody now.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: jkinatl2 on April 19, 2013, 03:15:10 am
For all the fumbling and bumbling in the past, it might appear that reddit has really been on top of this situation. People have been filming the firefights (in portrait mode!) and linking to police scanners and local news coverage. I was just reading a post from a guy whose TV was shot out, and saw a photo of a bullet hole in a wall that pierces a calendar and a chair in front of a computer.

If it's not connected with the Marathon bombing, it's beyond coincidence. The suspects were, at one point, in a car chase throwing bombs outside the window at the police.

Its been like something out of an 80s action movie, only real people are dying.



Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 19, 2013, 03:18:46 am
No, it's definitely connected. I wrote that two hours ago when I first read of things going on at MIT it didn't seem to be for sure if that was so.

Also, those two names being tossed around on line of the suspects that were taken from the police scanner seems to indicate one suspect is from Bryn Mawr, PA... 12 miles from me. *sigh* (the student that "disappeared" from Brown Univ. a month ago)
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 19, 2013, 03:41:47 am
Just saw a blog post titled Marathon bomber an Ivy Leaguer, radical leftist (http://www.bob-owens.com/2013/04/marathon-bomber-an-ivy-leaguer-radical-leftist/)... expect more of this ::)

Oh, and it's Obama's fault.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: jkinatl2 on April 19, 2013, 03:44:27 am
Latest news:

http://livewire.wcvb.com/Event/117th_Running_of_Boston_Marathon

The family of Sunil Tripathi, the missing Brown student who Reddit believed was one of the suspects, has taken down the Facebook page dedicated to find him. Here is a cached version of it.

http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=help+us+find+sunil+tripathi&d=4800958371725771&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=nld1_cZ9TIaHOQiAMeSeWxqLMiqIiDje

He could be holed up in a Watertown home right now, in custody, or dead.


Somewhere, in my apartment, I still have my Andrew Cunanan WANTED poster from when the guy who killed Gianni Versace, among others, then fled to Atlanta.

I feel a bit ghoulish following this, but am fascinated at all the witnesses, their connection to the world via Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, and the local stuff.



Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: tednlou2 on April 19, 2013, 05:20:55 am
So I wake up with NBC News on air with a special report.  Where did you guys leave off?  I'm hearing one suspect has been killed and the second still at large.  So, they robbed a 7/11?  They took the one into custody, but he died at the hospital.  An the MIT officer was killed by the suspects.  They took someone hostage, but amazingly did not hurt that guy. 

Up to speed as of 5am?

Edit:  NBC reporting FBI saying neither suspect is the missing Brown student.  And, they weren't closing in on them.  Apparently, posting their pics publicly yesterday caused them to panic and actually do themselves in. 
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 19, 2013, 06:03:24 am
NBC's Lester Holt, Pete Williams and Michael Isikoff report that the bombing suspects have international ties and have been in the U.S. for at least a year.

linky (http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbc-news/51593314/#51593314)

(I dozed off for an hour and much changed! There were rumors that one suspect died but it wasn't widely reported until the past 30 minutes or so)
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: tednlou2 on April 19, 2013, 06:09:06 am
NBC's Lester Holt, Pete Williams and Michael Isikoff report that the bombing suspects have international ties and have been in the U.S. for at least a year.

linky (http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbc-news/51593314/#51593314)

I worried about a tie to Iran's govt.  That would not be good.  They are shutting down all mass transit.  I hope someone doesn't let their dog out or disobey orders to stay in.  This suspect would want to take someone hostage, if he's cornered.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mecch on April 19, 2013, 08:45:21 am
Photo essay.

http://johanneshirn.photoshelter.com/gallery/Will-Box-For-Passport/G0000VQW7v6xWA7o/
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: tednlou2 on April 19, 2013, 08:57:18 am
This guy took this photo during the explosions.  He posted it on Facebook the same day.  Over on the left, you can see the suspect in the white hat.  This sparked debate on social media whether this was real.  I think confirmed real.

https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10200411483522036&set=a.1231720685525.159892.1604384014&type=3&theater&refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2Fmobileweb%2F2013%2F04%2F19%2Fnew-photo-suspect-2-boston_n_3114088.html&_rdr
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: OneTampa on April 19, 2013, 09:36:21 am
The latest is that the suspects are brothers and have lived in the US at least 10 years.  The older brother was killed.  The younger brother remains up for capture.  Concentration now in Watertown, MA.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/19/17817173-one-boston-marathon-suspect-killed-second-suspect-his-brother-on-loose-after-firefight?lite
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 19, 2013, 09:53:01 am
ATTENTION  MITCHY!!

CNN report saying suspect could be in Connecticut. Grey Honda CRV possibly.

Stay inside and out of the garden.!!
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mitch777 on April 19, 2013, 10:09:53 am
ATTENTION  MITCHY!!

CNN report saying suspect could be in Connecticut. Grey Honda CRV possibly.

Stay inside and out of the garden.!!
Yikes!
Got my trusty pooch to protect me. :)

And heads up to you with exploding fertilizer plants!
Surprised nobody mentioned it yet.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 19, 2013, 10:35:50 am
Dzokhar's best friend says he is a "sweet angel" and doesnt know how he could do this. Dzokhars previous wrestling coach says "sweet kid", no way could he ever do this.

When "angels" go bad.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 19, 2013, 10:53:19 am
CNN just mentioned that police believe that Dzhokhar has a laptop and is sending out messages on social media threatening. Something else on line that I am following linked to this "new" twitter account that was set up in the last three hours. Seems it's what they're referring to, plus the police requested a Russian translator and at least one tweet is in Russian, the rest in English.

https://twitter.com/Dzhokhar_A

... and the only twitter account he is following is the Boston Police Department

There's another account "@Dzhokhar_" this is fake
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 19, 2013, 11:01:10 am
Where is our russian to english translator?

ас всех убьем, как вы убили моего брата Тамерлана Царнаев # Watertown один убит, я думаю, один ранен,,,, иди к черту

equals=

ace all kill, you killed my brother Tamerlan Tsarnaev # Watertown one was killed, I think one was injured,,,, go to hell
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 19, 2013, 11:02:29 am
Where is our russian to english translator?

ас всех убьем, как вы убили моего брата Тамерлана Царнаев # Watertown один убит, я думаю, один ранен,,,, иди к черту

ace all kill, you killed my brother Tamerlan Tsarnaev # Watertown one was killed, I think one was injured,,,, go to hell
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 19, 2013, 11:15:20 am
ace all kill, you killed my brother Tamerlan Tsarnaev # Watertown one was killed, I think one was injured,,,, go to hell

Ha, someone responded "the last tweet of your life. enjoy hell"
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 19, 2013, 11:23:37 am
In other news, Kim and Kayne have only spent 26 of the past 111 days together
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 19, 2013, 11:30:57 am
Oh, and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev attended Cambridge Rindge and Latin School just like Matt Damon and Ben Afleck -- ANOTHER STRIKE AGAINST THE LIBERAL ELITE111!!!
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Dachshund on April 19, 2013, 11:48:13 am
Ha, someone responded "the last tweet of your life. enjoy hell"

Fake accounts.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/these-are-not-the-twitter-accounts-of-the-boston-bombing-sus
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Jeff G on April 19, 2013, 11:56:39 am
Fake accounts.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/these-are-not-the-twitter-accounts-of-the-boston-bombing-sus

I hope they track down to person who has the fake twitter account and prosacutes them for obstruction of justice .
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Dachshund on April 19, 2013, 12:21:38 pm
In other news, Kim and Kayne have only spent 26 of the past 111 days together

Watching the media interview the uncle of these kids is like watching them interview a Kardashian.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 19, 2013, 12:27:15 pm
CBS says he became a US citizen seven months ago. Guess we have to own him.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Dachshund on April 19, 2013, 12:48:40 pm
CBS says he became a US citizen seven months ago. Guess we have to own him.

You can kiss immigration reform goodbye.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Rev. Moon on April 19, 2013, 12:58:44 pm
You can kiss immigration reform goodbye.

Yup.  May as well just flush it down the toilet.


CBS says he became a US citizen seven months ago. Guess we have to own him.

Chile please. You know the utterly enlightened righties will continue to blame every Muslim in the world.

I'm surprised that none of y'all hoes has commented on that asshole from FOX News who made some comment about "killing them all".
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: spacebarsux on April 19, 2013, 02:12:23 pm

Chile please. You know the utterly enlightened righties will continue to blame every Muslim in the world.


Look at the bright side Rev, now they've learnt that not all Muslims are brown-skinned.

BTW, their uncle's interview seemed genuine to me.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/gavon/boston-bombing-suspects-uncle-were-ashamed-and-they-are-lose
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 19, 2013, 02:38:28 pm
eww -- I just saw an alleged extremely graphic photo of the corpse of Tamerlan Tsarnaev. You won't be seeing that on CNN.

edit: TMZ says their sources say it's 100% authentic but won't link to it (http://www.tmz.com/2013/04/19/tamerlan-tsarnaev-death-photo-surfaces-boston-marathon-bomber/) and I guess I shouldn't link to it here either, but I saved it to my hard drive 8)
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: jkinatl2 on April 19, 2013, 03:04:41 pm
Saw it. Shudder.

Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 19, 2013, 03:40:58 pm
eww -- I just saw an alleged extremely graphic photo of the corpse of Tamerlan Tsarnaev. You won't be seeing that on CNN.

edit: TMZ says their sources say it's 100% authentic but won't link to it (http://www.tmz.com/2013/04/19/tamerlan-tsarnaev-death-photo-surfaces-boston-marathon-bomber/) and I guess I shouldn't link to it here either, but I saved it to my hard drive 8)

Sweeeeet
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: OneTampa on April 19, 2013, 04:47:53 pm
Just saw the picture.  Thought he would be more mangled.  Looks like an FX movie prop.   Any word from the suspects' parents?
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 19, 2013, 04:58:07 pm
FBI checking cars on ferry from New Haven, CT to Long Island, NY -- they must have that wrong as I'm fairly sure it runs from New London.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 19, 2013, 05:47:44 pm
I wonder how many Boston liberals spent the night cowering in their homes wishing they had an AR-15 with a hi-capacity magazine?
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 19, 2013, 06:19:09 pm
(http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af308/IwuvPhilly/rus_zps928dc655.jpg)

I *heart* Uncle Ruslan
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 19, 2013, 06:42:08 pm
PS -  F*ck this week.  (http://jezebel.com/fuck-this-week-476503887)
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 19, 2013, 07:01:21 pm
PS -  F*ck this week.  (http://jezebel.com/fuck-this-week-476503887)

She didn't even mention the super-awesome Elvis impersonator.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mitch777 on April 19, 2013, 07:58:50 pm
She didn't even mention the super-awesome Elvis impersonator.
yes she did. :)
really.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Rev. Moon on April 19, 2013, 08:45:52 pm


PS -  F*ck this week.  (http://jezebel.com/fuck-this-week-476503887)

Thanks for sharing.

My feelings exactly. Especially the comments about some imbeciles who evidently failed Geography 101 and confuse Chechnya with the Czech Republic.  And the comments about the disgusting and racist Islamophobia that plagues this nation and other Western countries.  FUCK THAT FUCKING SHIT.

She didn't even mention the super-awesome Elvis impersonator.

I was thinking the same thing and then saw it as an edit at the end of the entry. 
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: bocker3 on April 19, 2013, 08:47:48 pm
He is in custody and alive!
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: OneTampa on April 19, 2013, 08:49:13 pm
Unconfirmed news reports that the 2nd suspect is now in custody.

News outlets waiting for further confirming information.

Edited: Linked update: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/19/suspect-in-custody-newspaper-says/2095845/
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 19, 2013, 08:55:25 pm
Crowds clapping and cheering as officers walk down the street  ;)
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 19, 2013, 09:20:02 pm
Lesson:

If you bomb us, we will catch or kill your ass!

#OsamaTamerlonDzhokhar
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 19, 2013, 09:20:12 pm
Crowds clapping and cheering as officers walk down the street  ;)

Except I have a 100 text messages from you demeaning "Yankee" cops and practically rooting for the suspect to escape so you could gloat. Seriously, your behavior this evening was appalling.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 19, 2013, 09:23:54 pm
. Seriously, your behavior this evening was appalling.

why you gotta be besmirching on this happy occasion?

Ps- MissyP was watching FOX news tonight  ;)
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 19, 2013, 09:27:05 pm

Ps- MissyP was watching FOX news tonight  ;)

uh, no -- I was watching the twitter feed of the Boston Globe except when you'd intentionally lie about what Fox was broadcasting.

Wumpy was so stupid he couldn't tell when Fox was taking an image from google maps street view! LOL... and this guy majored in criminal justice.

SAD!
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 19, 2013, 09:32:45 pm
Reports saying #2 injured and "not in good condition"

Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Rev. Moon on April 19, 2013, 09:51:07 pm
why you gotta be besmirching on this happy occasion?


Hmppff... Somebody watched Game of Thrones last Sunday.  I bet you'd never heard that word before.  Remember what happened to the person who uttered it at the end of the episode. 
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 19, 2013, 09:58:45 pm
Hmppff... Somebody watched Game of Thrones last Sunday.  I bet you'd never heard that word before.  Remember what happened to the person who uttered it at the end of the episode.

I cannot lie. I actually picked that up from P today. Maybe she watched that trash show?

but I actually ahve heard it many times. I also think they used it in Golden Girls (Blanche)
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 19, 2013, 10:02:28 pm
I'm afraid it's just part of my regular vocabulary. It's how we roll in the part of the US where creationism isn't a required course in school.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 19, 2013, 10:24:38 pm
Photo of  Dzhokar being arrested  (http://globalgrind.com/news/boston-marathon-bombing-suspect-2-caught-photos?page=8)

*possibly NSFW due to bloody nose.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: tednlou2 on April 19, 2013, 10:50:50 pm
Photo of  Dzhokar being arrested  (http://globalgrind.com/news/boston-marathon-bombing-suspect-2-caught-photos?page=8)

*possibly NSFW due to bloody nose.

Man, he obviously didn't eat like an American.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 19, 2013, 11:01:32 pm
Man, he obviously didn't eat like an American.

Question: Is it un-American to want to lick a terrorists abs?
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Dachshund on April 20, 2013, 08:31:33 am
She^would be in a burqa in about ten minutes.

http://gawker.com/5995074/justin-bieber-fans-convert-to-islam-for-free-concert-tickets
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Jeff G on April 20, 2013, 08:53:39 am
She got a special dispensation from burqa wearin due to flatulence ... see the nutrition wumpette style thread for details .
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: OneTampa on April 20, 2013, 09:05:36 am
I have seen other posts where people are saying that the brothers were "cute" and noting what they would "do" to them.

Reminds me of the old TV show 227 back in the day when 2 women competed for mourning rights at a funeral seeing who could wail the loudest.  One said to the other "Watch out sister, I'M working THIS wake!"
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Dachshund on April 20, 2013, 09:08:59 am
She got a special dispensation from burqa wearin due to flatulence ... see the nutrition wumpette style thread for details .

She plans to enter a wet burqa contest in Kabul.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 20, 2013, 10:46:09 am
 Uncle Ruslan to speak to reporters again later today. This should be good. Get yer popcorn ready.

Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 20, 2013, 11:31:45 am
Uncle Ruslan to speak to reporters again later today. This should be good. Get yer popcorn ready.



k

“Suspect thought he could escape in backyard boat after hearing Gore speak on global warming.” — Rep. Steve Stockman (R-TX)
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Dachshund on April 20, 2013, 12:30:18 pm
Uncle Ruslan to speak to reporters again later today. This should be good. Get yer popcorn ready.

Great a bunch of "reporters" that don't know anything, shouting questions at a guy that doesn't know anything.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Rev. Moon on April 20, 2013, 05:00:56 pm
k

“Suspect thought he could escape in backyard boat after hearing Gore speak on global warming.” — Rep. Steve Stockman (R-TX)


That doesn't even make sense?
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 20, 2013, 05:49:13 pm

That doesn't even make sense?

It's the same TEXAN who recently tweeted: If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted. -- obviously someone with a very brilliant mind. He's the new Michelle Bachmann. Hope he decides to run for President in a few years!
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mecch on April 20, 2013, 07:30:55 pm
You don't get that Rep's tweet?

What about this one, the alleged terrorist's retweet:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/19/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-tweets-j_tsar-twitter_n_3117232.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

On Wednesday, he retweeted a post from self-proclaimed "Muslim scholar" Mufti Ismail Menk, "Attitude can take away your beauty no matter how good looking you are or it could enhance your beauty, making you adorable."

And the pics of him looking soft and sweet and like a young Bob Dylan really...

Its creeping me out.

Also the live news commentaries on the crowds cheering the police officers.  I thought the cheers were moving but the newspeople were spewing really atrocious boiler plate, schmaltz.   

Euro news does this thing "no comment" where its just news video and you can just watch it and take a moment to digest what's happening, connect a little bit with the situation, place, people, and make up your own mind...

Wish news wasn't so over the top produced every single last second.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: OneTampa on April 20, 2013, 07:59:59 pm
Big Papi (David Ortiz) of the Boston Red Sox got cheers with uncensored short speech:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMYTUKVi52E
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 21, 2013, 12:30:34 pm
Giant pink dildo on man’s fridge during Boston bombing interview with BBC News (http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/197467/giant-pink-dildo-on-mans-fridge-during-boston-bombing-interview-with-bbc-news/)

(http://i33.tinypic.com/n63w1y.jpg)

On Friday, BBC News conducted an on-air interview with one of the runners of Monday’s Boston Marathon, who had a nice surprise casually placed on one of his appliances. No, BBC News did not notice.

It also says “Welcome a Tart!” on the whiteboard in the background.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mecch on April 21, 2013, 06:42:16 pm
That guy lay bleeding in that boat for how long, then the boat was riddled with gunfire, and then it seems he tried to off himself by sticking a gun in his mouth, and the bullet ripped through his throat.  And THEN ? he climbed out of the boat? 
I guess the whole timeline is still pretty sketchy....   
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2312486/Dzhokhar-Tsarnaev-Boston-bombing-suspect-gun-mouth-fired-botched-suicide-attempt.html



Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 21, 2013, 08:51:19 pm
That guy lay bleeding in that boat for how long, then the boat was riddled with gunfire, and then it seems he tried to off himself by sticking a gun in his mouth, and the bullet ripped through his throat.  And THEN ? he climbed out of the boat? 


He can't even "off" himself correctly. What an idiot.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: tednlou2 on April 21, 2013, 09:43:55 pm
Someone sent me a victim pic, blindly.  The man is in a wheel chair.  Some people are holding tourniquets around both legs.  The meat is gone, but bone is still there.  I thought the Kevin Ware/Louisville injury was gruesome.  This made me nauseous.  His skin looks gray, almost like someone dressed in zombie makeup. 

This same man is being used by conspiracy theorists.  They claim he was already an amputee from the war.  It made no fucking sense.  How do they explain the bones sticking out.  Amputees have those removed.  Geez.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mecch on April 22, 2013, 01:10:23 pm
Interesting, most bios and testimonies say Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was very smart in H.S.

But he failed most of his first year college courses. 

Why did they come up with such a lame-brained plan? Or lack thereof. 

Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: OneTampa on April 22, 2013, 01:36:21 pm
Wife of killed bombing suspect selling family home:

http://northkingstown.patch.com/articles/family-of-bombing-suspect-s-wife-to-sell-nk-home?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl2%7Csec3_lnk2%26pLid%3D302019
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mitch777 on April 22, 2013, 02:00:51 pm
Wife of killed bombing suspect selling family home:

http://northkingstown.patch.com/articles/family-of-bombing-suspect-s-wife-to-sell-nk-home?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl2%7Csec3_lnk2%26pLid%3D302019

Had to laugh at the smaller one of the photos on the right. (below the larger pic of the house) ;D
Nice house, Jesus included. :)
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: tednlou2 on April 22, 2013, 03:42:27 pm
I was reading he returned to school and was even at the gym.  One student, who knew him, said he said the bombings were "crazy."  I was also reading they let the carjack victim go, because he wasn't an American.  The victim left his phone in the car, which may have provided help tracking them.

http://news.yahoo.com/back-college-suspect-called-boston-bombs-crazy-classmate-004132316.html
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: bocker3 on April 22, 2013, 05:50:07 pm
Wife of killed bombing suspect selling family home:

http://northkingstown.patch.com/articles/family-of-bombing-suspect-s-wife-to-sell-nk-home?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl2%7Csec3_lnk2%26pLid%3D302019
Actually it is his wives parents who are selling their house.  Not sure why this is at all newsworthy - these people had nothing to do with their son- in- law's plans. 
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 22, 2013, 06:42:09 pm
Boston Marathon suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev investigated in 2011 slayings (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/boston-marathon-suspect-homicide-investigation-90459.html)

If this were to pan out it seems Tamerlan was just plain psycho -- three murders two years ago? This would be before the timeline of his sudden "religious radicalization" I think, not to mention it might be drug related.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mecch on April 22, 2013, 07:32:18 pm
And Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is a pothead by all accounts. 

But zealot brother was publicly no drugs or alcohol.  But why not, a dealer. Or maybe he was pissed off at his friends' dealing and decadence. 

Will be interesting to discover how those two supported themselves, plus Tamerlan's wife and kid, and bought all the weapons to boot..  Dzhokhar had no job prospects.  Dad was a car mechanic in the USA, but is supposedly a lawyer, and the family is supposed to be exiled Chechnyan intelligentsia...  To use rather antiquated vocabulary.  Mom was a living room cosmetologist, Lord & Taylor shoplifter, and 9/11 truther.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: tednlou2 on April 23, 2013, 01:07:36 am
Interesting point of view about how we react to terrorism vs gun violence.  MSNBC host, Chris Hayes used a graphic to show we've had 900,000 gun deaths vs 3,000 terror deaths, since 1980.  Of course, not all gun deaths are murders.  In fact, I remember a recent study saying half of gun deaths were suicides.


http://video.msnbc.msn.com/all-in-/51577097
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 23, 2013, 08:13:20 pm
Case dropped as regards the "ricin letters" against the southern Elvis impersonator. Now the FBI is looking at a local ex-Republican state representative candidate and child molester (Everett Dutschke (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/23/article-2313647-197376ED000005DC-316_634x448.jpg)) for attempting to frame this guy. Evidently this alleged man also sent ricin to the mother, who is also a local judge, of the Dem candidate who beat him in his election.

Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: tednlou2 on April 23, 2013, 11:23:30 pm
Case dropped as regards the "ricin letters" against the southern Elvis impersonator. Now the FBI is looking at a local ex-Republican state representative candidate and child molester (Everett Dutschke (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/23/article-2313647-197376ED000005DC-316_634x448.jpg)) for attempting to frame this guy. Evidently this alleged man also sent ricin to the mother, who is also a local judge, of the Dem candidate who beat him in his election.

Another example of why we need to always give suspects their benefit of innocence until proven guilty. 
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Rev. Moon on April 23, 2013, 11:39:46 pm
Another example of why we need to always give suspects their benefit of innocence until proven guilty.

Maybe this will help his career in shobiz.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 24, 2013, 07:46:20 pm
Party On Dude! (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/boston-marathon-bombing-suspects-wanted-to-party-in-nyc-90571.html?hp=l15)... obviously the sign of a hardcore jihadist.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mecch on April 25, 2013, 06:25:55 am
The story of these "bros" is so incongruous.

But, at least, they seem really really really fucked up.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mecch on April 25, 2013, 08:12:43 am
Pity UMASS Dartmouth didn't have some hardass sorority girl to knock some sense back into Jahar's brain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UTqj3P1rmdw#!

Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 25, 2013, 01:30:47 pm
Seems now the suspect has changed his story about only wanting to go to NYC to party and that they were going to take more explosives and set them off in Times Square.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mecch on April 25, 2013, 03:56:07 pm
 I am thinking of Natural Born Killers. This event is outrageous. Its got stoner logic.  I bet the older brother killed those weed dealers for corrupting his younger brother.  Then set him on the straight and narrow.... path to insanity.

Its like Leopold and Loeb. Twisted and Freudian or greek tragedy worthy, all marinating in social media.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NLsbzhOEHg
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 25, 2013, 07:12:37 pm
Sunil Tripathi, the person tagged falsely as a suspect was found dead in a river today.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/25/us/rhode-island-missing-brown-student/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

His only crime was being brown and near a bomb.

Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Jeff G on April 25, 2013, 07:30:51 pm
I was listening to NPR today and they were interviewing a retired Boston cop , he thinks that there may be a need to look at how and on what authority the Boston police department took over 20 blocks of homes and searched each one without warrants .

It does have implications when you do things like this and when defendants go on trial .   
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mecch on April 25, 2013, 07:32:20 pm
If I read the article correctly it sounds like he was missing and probably dead long before the Boston Bombing.  Sounds like you are saying he was photographed in Boston at the Marathon....??
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mecch on April 25, 2013, 07:35:39 pm
OK I answered my own question.  He was never in Boston. Never near the bomb.  It was all speculation by online sleuthers...
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 25, 2013, 07:39:04 pm
I was listening to NPR today and they were interviewing a retired Boston cop , he thinks that there may be a need to look at how and on what authority the Boston police department took over 20 blocks of homes and searched each one without warrants .


I questioned this too, (I think MissP called me Rand Paul). I couldnt believe they were going through so many houses without warrants...and what would happen if a resident refused entry. OR what would happen if the polic saw a bag of cocaine on the table during one of the searches. But I read later that the searches were really only "voluntary", and that a resident could in fact refuse it. Although I dont think anyone did of course.

OK I answered my own question.  He was never in Boston. Never near the bomb.  It was all speculation by online sleuthers...

Ah yes. I see that now. I thought he had been photoged at the scene.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Jeff G on April 25, 2013, 07:48:41 pm
I questioned this too, (I think MissP called me Rand Paul). I couldnt believe they were going through so many houses without warrants...and what would happen if a resident refused entry. OR what would happen if the polic saw a bag of cocaine on the table during one of the searches. But I read later that the searches were really only "voluntary", and that a resident could in fact refuse it. Although I dont think anyone did of course.

I think the scope of the thing is whats in question , the police dept enacted something akin to marshal law in a large portion of Water Town , its a matter of law , not one of did everyone agree with the decision to do it , and on who's authority .

I just thought it was an intriguing interview .
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 25, 2013, 07:49:08 pm
You two remind me of those hillbillies always worried about the feds finding their hidden still.

Did you two clean your guns five times today?
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Jeff G on April 25, 2013, 07:54:59 pm
You two remind me of those hillbillies always worried about the feds finding their hidden still.

Did you two clean your guns five times today?

We need weapons , we don't have that high pitched Truman Capote voice that sends people running like you do .
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 25, 2013, 07:56:50 pm
we don't have that high pitched Truman Capote voice that sends people running like you do .

Nor that gargoylish face.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 25, 2013, 07:58:32 pm
Nor that gargoylish face.

Still not as bad as your teeth.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 25, 2013, 08:04:08 pm
Still not as bad as your teeth.

Nancy please, I have all my toofezs, some are just a little out of alignment. I can get them straightened, but there is no hope for that face of yours.

Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 25, 2013, 08:10:02 pm
Nancy please, I have all my toofezs, some are just a little out of alignment. I can get them straightened, but there is no hope for that face of yours.



I think they'd have to yank all of your out and put fake ones in since it looks like a truck hit you.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 25, 2013, 08:15:27 pm
I think they'd have to yank all of your out and put fake ones in since it looks like a truck hit you.

Yeah but it looks like someone thought your face was on fire and tried to put it out with a hatchett and then the hatchett broke so they used a shovel, but then your nose swole on up and stayed that way.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 25, 2013, 08:19:22 pm
Yeah but it looks like someone thought your face was on fire and tried to put it out with a hatchett and then the hatchett broke so they used a shovel, but then your nose swole on up and stayed that way.

I don't think you should make fun of someone with Zerit-induced lipoatrophy followed by large amounts of dermal fillers on a forum about AIDS. Bad form, dear. Your teeth, on the other hand, indicate a life spent in a meth lab.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Rev. Moon on April 25, 2013, 08:19:51 pm
Yeah but it looks like someone thought your face was on fire and tried to put it out with a hatchett and then the hatchett broke so they used a shovel, but then your nose swole on up and stayed that way.

She has the upper hand: she's younger and, unlike you, still has both testicles.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 25, 2013, 08:22:58 pm
she's younger and,

Younger! LMAO!
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Rev. Moon on April 25, 2013, 08:24:51 pm
Younger! LMAO!

Says the queen who goes around taking (at least) 6 years off her REAL age.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 25, 2013, 08:26:57 pm
Says the queen who goes around taking (at least) 6 years off her REAL age.

Yall really cant stand it that I'm 10x more beautiful than you aged dried up prunes can you?

STOP THE H8TE!
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: bocker3 on April 25, 2013, 08:51:17 pm
I think the scope of the thing is whats in question , the police dept enacted something akin to marshal law in a large portion of Water Town , its a matter of law , not one of did everyone agree with the decision to do it , and on who's authority .

I just thought it was an intriguing interview .

There was no "marshal law".  The shelter in place request was voluntary - you could see folks walking about Boston on TV throughout.  At least outside the crime scenes on Boyleston St. And in areas of Watertown.. 
The residents of greater Boston, were happy to help out, and allow the police to capture the bad guys.  Monday morning quarterbacking from1,000 miles away seems a bit unnecessary.  Everyone I have spoken with from the area are filled with praise for law enforcement.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 25, 2013, 08:53:27 pm
There was no "marshal law".  The shelter in place request was voluntary - you could see folks walking about Boston on TV throughout.  At least outside the crime scenes on Boyleston St. And in areas of Watertown.. 
The residents of greater Boston, were happy to help out, and allow the police to capture the bad guys.  Monday morning quarterbacking from1,000 miles away seems a bit unnecessary.  Everyone I have spoken with from the area are filled with praise for law enforcement.

exactly -- I don't understand why some folks are being so paranoid
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mecch on April 25, 2013, 08:54:37 pm
Is this thread about handsome men or killers?  Speaking of handsome killers:

(http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000797543/polls_che_3305_643707_answer_2_xlarge.jpeg)
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Jeff G on April 25, 2013, 10:02:12 pm
Monday morning quarterbacking from1,000 miles away seems a bit unnecessary.  Everyone I have spoken with from the area are filled with praise for law enforcement.

The person who had this concern is a retired boston police officer , not a 1000 miles away .

I've not thought out completely to have a solid opinion but I do hope that law enforcement follows the law so that when they catch bad guys its a clean prosecutable case .

Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: tednlou2 on April 25, 2013, 10:23:20 pm
Wasn't there a recent court case about letting police into your home without a warrant and the police finding something illegal???  I suppose I will have to google it.  I remember some case like that.  I think it had to do with if police enter your home for a domestic disturbance issue, or something like that. 
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: bocker3 on April 26, 2013, 07:37:16 am
The person who had this concern is a retired boston police officer , not a 1000 miles away .

I've not thought out completely to have a solid opinion but I do hope that law enforcement follows the law so that when they catch bad guys its a clean prosecutable case .

Well -- once I hear a complaint from one of the citizens involved, vs. an arm chair monday morning quarterback, I'll start to give this a little thought.  Millions and millions of people were watching the whole thing unfold -- including, I would guess, folks from orgs. like the Civil Liberties Union -- if there were any legal questions, I think they would have made front page news everywhere.  There will always be some folks with axes to grind against the gov't who will see evil no matter what it does.

I wonder if this self-reported "retired' Boston cop is, at all related to the suspects mother??  You know this was all a set-up by the gov't.

Mike
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Jeff G on April 26, 2013, 09:10:08 am
Well -- once I hear a complaint from one of the citizens involved, vs. an arm chair monday morning quarterback, I'll start to give this a little thought.  Millions and millions of people were watching the whole thing unfold -- including, I would guess, folks from orgs. like the Civil Liberties Union -- if there were any legal questions, I think they would have made front page news everywhere.  There will always be some folks with axes to grind against the gov't who will see evil no matter what it does.

I wonder if this self-reported "retired' Boston cop is, at all related to the suspects mother??  You know this was all a set-up by the gov't.

Mike

Lemming
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mecch on April 26, 2013, 09:12:02 am
In contrast, I think there will be a lot of discussion about the lockdown, when people have time to discuss it cooly.  Think longish, intellectual articles.  The discussion is hardly limited to legal or constitutional issues. 
Its a startling new development in the US's "war on terror".  Other countries have not, to date, responded in this way.   Theres been some media chatter already comparing the lockdown to how Israel, France, and English have dealt with terror.

Here's an article about the French way, from a year ago:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/01/sunday-review/the-french-way-of-fighting-homegrown-terrorism.html?pagewanted=all

I've heard arguments that the Israeli's will examine the crime scene, clean up the blood, and go back to normal quickly, and without excessive drama in the response.  There are those who say, perhaps the US can sometimes overreact to terrorism, which, they argue, feeds the terrorist troll - who's objective is to provoke mayhem and reaction. 

These two trolls got a LOT of bang for their acts.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mecch on April 26, 2013, 09:20:31 am
On the other hand, if I had been in Boston I would have appreciated the city officially giving me leave to stay at home, and keep my kids at home. If there are mysterious deadly maniacs running around, its only human. 

Also, it is a combination of citizen observation and massive police attention, that found Jahar.  If the lockdown had stayed in effect, the homeowner wouldn't have found him, and he may well have died in the boat. No answers.  Or rallied and gone on a rampage.  But, the police were close already, and could move quickly I suppose in part because of the freed up public space...
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: RemyG1971 on April 26, 2013, 09:20:58 am
Does anyone else not believe the story the Government is feeding us in regards to how this incident took place from start to finish?
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Jeff G on April 26, 2013, 09:26:22 am
I suppose I'm in the minority because I applaud people like that cop in Boston who said what a great job the police dept did but also raised some questions .

I wish people would have asked questions of the Bush administration before he sent us to a war in Iraq and I hope with all my heart we begin to ask questions about the Drone program .   


And Remy ... From what I see so far the government inst or shouldn't be on trial here , this was the acts of two really fucked up young men , period .
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mecch on April 26, 2013, 09:26:59 am
I think that's healthy skepticism, Remy. As long as it does not veer off into loony conspiracies. One of reasons the story isn't cohesive is that the story isn't known yet, so there simply a lot of speculation by police, government, FBI, the media, and the blogosphere.

For example - a one hour shoot out was reported to get Jahar.  There was the dramatic "artists rendering" of him shooting out of the boat.  Hundred of bullets fired his way.  Now its reported, he was unarmed.  So, the story is incomplete. 

Every citizen needs some critical skills as to public information - media, government, etc.

Remember the bogus Jessica Lynch heroic story.

You might enjoy Ken Burns The Central Park Five - about the vested interests in believing the false story about the guys who were wrongly convicted of rape and murder.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mik-moore/central-park-five_b_3102770.html
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mecch on April 26, 2013, 09:29:28 am
I suppose I'm in the minority because I applaud people like that cop in Boston who said what a great job the police dept did but also raised some questions .
You nalled it. What is remarkable is the ever increasing inability of the US and Americans to consider nuanced reasoning, where seemingly contradictory observations may have value.  People seem to want black and white binaries...  I believe Senators are fleeing government because of this.. 
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mecch on April 26, 2013, 09:35:21 am
Actually, I take that back.

I guess most cultures are filled with people who like the black and white answers.  Obviously its not just Americans.

Maybe its that these decades, Americans are asking A LOT of questions, and facing some stark challenges (and not always badly... ::)) so its part of the process that people grumble about the lack of clear answers, and pine for them.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 26, 2013, 11:09:21 am
Does anyone else not believe the story the Government is feeding us in regards to how this incident took place from start to finish?

http://www.infowars.com/
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: denb45 on April 26, 2013, 02:51:49 pm
Does anyone else not believe the story the Government is feeding us in regards to how this incident took place from start to finish?

I for one don't believe a lot of crap the news media feeds the general public, let alone the Feds on how any of this went down from start to finish?

DEN  ;)
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 26, 2013, 03:15:21 pm
I think the US government invented AIDS and spread it around the world on purpose.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Jeff G on April 26, 2013, 03:17:40 pm
I think the US government invented AIDS and spread it around the world on purpose.

I thought you did that .
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mecch on April 26, 2013, 03:46:53 pm
I think the US government invented AIDS and spread it around the world on purpose.
Yes Farrakhan sniffed that out years ago and he's STILL going on about it.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/04/farrakhan-accuses-u-s-govt-of-plot-to-kill-billions-using-eugenics-planned-parenthood-and-the-aids-virus-it-was-concentrated-in-the-black-community/
________

“Under Kissinger a plan was hatched that two to three billion people on our planet would have to be [killed],” Farrakhan proclaimed in his weekly address. ”But the people that Kissinger — and the U.S. government agreed with Mr. Kissinger — these people who would be killed would be in the Third World. But since this culling has many third world people in industrialized countries, in would start as well in the industrialized countries.”

From there, Farrakhan became more specific, asking some odd questions and waging pointed accusations at the U.S. government:

“Could this be why, in Africa, AIDS is slaughtering black men and women by the tens of thousands, particularly in those areas where the mineral resources of that area is necessary to keep America in power in this 21st century? Could it be that this is why black women in America are said to be the number one carrier of the [AIDS] virus? Could this be that 30 years ago when the birthrate of blacks was outstripping the birthrate of whites — so much so that demographers said by 2050 blacks would either be equal to the population of whites or greater than their population — and they didn’t stand still on those figures? They went to work with eugenics and Planned Parenthood and pills that aborted children. And it was concentrated in the black community. At that time, the Hispanics were not the ones that were the majority of the minority populations. It was the blacks.”
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mecch on April 26, 2013, 03:47:30 pm
Cliff Notes version:  KISSINGER! 
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Matts on April 26, 2013, 04:21:43 pm
Is this serious? You never know when MP starts a topic:)
I read this Kissinger theory some years ago and thought it was just another weird conspiracy theory.
It would be terrible if it should be true, I hope it isn't.
Kissinger is quite a media star here, because he was born in Germany and speaks fluent german.
I wouldnt put it past him.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mecch on April 26, 2013, 06:21:50 pm
Is this serious? You never know when MP starts a topic:)
I read this Kissinger theory some years ago and thought it was just another weird conspiracy theory.
It would be terrible if it should be true, I hope it isn't.
Kissinger is quite a media star here, because he was born in Germany and speaks fluent german.
I wouldnt put it past him.

Do you know who Farrakhan is? If not, Google him. He' a crackpot.  But yes one supposes he believes his own conspiracy rants...

 

Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Rev. Moon on April 27, 2013, 12:36:12 am
I think the US government invented AIDS and spread it around the world on purpose.

I believe that wholeheartedly.  They also flooded the inner cities with crack cocaine so that Black and Latino minorities could be destroyed.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Rev. Moon on April 27, 2013, 12:51:39 am
And now the news are saying that the mother of these guys had been added to a guvmint terror database 18 moths ago.  What the heck's going on with this story?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/boston-bomb-suspects-mom-terrorism-database-2011-article-1.1328783
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Ann on April 27, 2013, 06:05:51 am
I believe that wholeheartedly.  They also flooded the inner cities with crack cocaine so that Black and Latino minorities could be destroyed.

I knew a guy who was a medic during the Vietnam conflict who claimed that the CIA were stuffing body bags headed back to the US with Asian heroin - to flood the inner cities with heroin so that Black and Latino communities could be destroyed. (RIP Buddy)
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: bocker3 on April 27, 2013, 08:28:05 am
How very sad that less than 2 weeks after the bombings, this thread has turned into a strike on the gov't and law enforcement, rather than the bombers or remembering the victims. 
I suppose we would we talking about the inept gov't if they hadn't caught them.  Either way some folks here would be putting on their tinfoil and calling it "nuanced thinking".
M
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Dachshund on April 27, 2013, 08:41:05 am
I think people can remember and honor the victims of this tragedy and still voice skepticism of our government. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Jeff G on April 27, 2013, 10:10:44 am
Im all for flag waving just as long as it doesn't distract us from where we are going .
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 27, 2013, 10:19:43 am
Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) says that the Muslim Brotherhood has infiltrated the Obama administration and frankly I must agree! Between that and the fact that al Queda has set up camps with the drug cartels in Mexico I'm simply beside myself.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Jeff G on April 27, 2013, 10:27:39 am
I'm simply beside myself.

You read it here first folks Miss P has split in half and is now two Miss P's . That could be more dangerous than  al Queda .
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: WillyWump on April 27, 2013, 10:48:15 am
You read it here first folks Miss P has split in half and is now two Miss P's .

She's begun Mitosis? Oh no, I knew this day would come. Oh the humanity.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: denb45 on April 27, 2013, 10:51:42 am
I think people can remember and honor the victims of this tragedy and still voice skepticism of our government. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

WORD!

DEN  ;)
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mecch on April 27, 2013, 01:49:12 pm
After the war, the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) took unwanted dangerous Serbs (including POWs and recent kidnaps) to a Yellow House harvested their organs, killed them and sold the organs on the black market.  So I'm remembering the Symbionese Liberation Army and Patty Hearst and "homegrown" terrorism of the 60's and 70's. 

I fully agree that Al Qaeda is implicated in organ harvesting and has a sleeper program to produce sleeper agents, Americanized children who will become doctors and nurses in America and use American bodies for their true value - meat....  First, organ harvesting, hush hush, but eventually the master plan is revealed.  Al Qaeda will be secretly in charge of the medical/defense conglomerate that has the contract for organ harvesting in American prisons.  (A venture capital investment by Mid-East monarchies, cause they know Peak Oil is true and they will need revenue.) Johar switched his major to Nursing, recently.. 
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Jeff G on April 27, 2013, 02:09:53 pm
I feel sorry for anyone who tries to harvest my organs , mine probably look like the organ grinder has had his way with me .
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 27, 2013, 02:31:38 pm
Republican Everett Dutschke was just arrested (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mississippi-man-suspected-in-ricin-case-has-been-arrested-fbi-says/2013/04/27/e5954196-af50-11e2-8bf6-e70cb6ae066e_story.html?hpid=z1) today by the FBI in connection with those ricin letters.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Rev. Moon on April 27, 2013, 02:36:24 pm
Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) says that the Muslim Brotherhood has infiltrated the Obama administration and frankly I must agree! Between that and the fact that al Queda has set up camps with the drug cartels in Mexico I'm simply beside myself.

This car was driving in front of mine yesterday afternoon.  Bless your heart, honey chile.

(http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz42/livebythemoon/ScreenShot2013-04-27at21945PM_zps2db58408.png)
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mecch on April 27, 2013, 02:45:55 pm
I tried to concentrate when I watched the innocent Paul Kevin Curtis's celebratory press conference but it was so odd -- it was like Robert Preston in Music Man odd. http://www.thedailybeast.com/videos/2013/04/23/freed-ricin-suspect-offers-lawyer-footrub.html
So a bitter freud about Mensa between the two gents, turns one of them into a homicidal maniac. 
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mecch on April 27, 2013, 09:54:11 pm
The NYTimes had articles on each brother yesterday. Not very interesting. A better and shorter one was in Gawker about the father's history and speculations on the father-son dynamics.

As I picked up in one report a few days ago, dad was indeed a lawyer. In fact he was a prosecutor for the Russians, so hated by his countrymen, but then the country was on-again off-again... 

His sister was married to an American CIA guy's daughter. Coincidence, it seems.
http://gawker.com/ex-cia-agent-denies-rumors-of-ties-to-ruslan-tsarnaev-483787629

The Times report gave a hint at the true miserable life course of the dad, as he was repairing cars in Boston in an unheated space (actually, right outside??), off licence.  (I remember immigrant operations like that in the South End in Bridgeport. My uncle told me half the parts are stolen...)  Ironically the family was finally safe, but it was not successful exile for the mom, dad, and the older brother.  So I guess the uncle was spot on explaining the why simply as them being losers.

_____

I thought the most intriguing end of week "reporting" wasn't about the criminals and their family.  It was just part of a joke by Bill Maher - they were talking about the "police state" and the "military state" and he showed pictures of the Boston Police, their gear, and their vehicles.  It was the scariest swat team equipment you'd ever seen. It looked straight out of your worst dystopian nightmare - and completely military.  I wondered if the stuff was from National Security and elsewhere, and if perhaps they just stuck "Boston Police" stickers on it for this operation.  Chilling..
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 30, 2013, 05:52:08 pm
Sounds like someone is going to be locked up for a long time (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/04/damning-evidence-against-ricin-suspect-dutschke.html).
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Jeff G on April 30, 2013, 06:20:18 pm
I like the related story headline ..... New Ricin Suspect Weirder Than Old Ricin Suspect . That just about says it all .
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Jeff G on May 01, 2013, 11:33:24 am
The AP is reporting 3 more arrest have been made in the Boston Bombing case .
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mecch on May 05, 2013, 08:16:58 pm
And that people don't want the dead brother buried in the USA.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/06/us/student-arrested-in-boston-bombing-seeks-release.html
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mecch on May 15, 2013, 07:51:29 pm
The paper spoke to one girl who said she planned to get one of Dzhokhar's tweets -- "If you have the knowledge and the inspiration, all that’s left is to take action" -- tattooed on her upper arm.

Another girl -- who tweeted last month "Yes i like Justin Bieber and i like Jahar but that has nothing to do with why i support him. I know hes innocent, he is far too beautiful" -- told the paper she feels "like he’s my brother."


http://www.tmz.com/2013/05/12/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-twitter-fans/
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Theyer on May 16, 2013, 06:37:13 am
Re---- FBI and Ricin suspect

' an Elvis impersonator obsessed with organ harvesting '

one off the more improbable collection off words although thinking about it what a pitch for a film.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: Miss Philicia on May 22, 2013, 10:23:16 am
***BREAKING*** Man with ties to Boston bombing suspect shot during FBI questioning (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/22/18418012-man-with-ties-to-boston-bombing-suspect-shot-during-fbi-questioning?lite) in Orlando, Florida
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: BT65 on May 22, 2013, 05:59:37 pm
***BREAKING*** Man with ties to Boston bombing suspect shot during FBI questioning (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/22/18418012-man-with-ties-to-boston-bombing-suspect-shot-during-fbi-questioning?lite) in Orlando, Florida

Just read this in NY Times.  I've read reports about the FBI (not online), and I have to admit, I'm suspicious of their actions.  While I'm sure their job is tough I'm not convinced they're totally ethical.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mecch on May 22, 2013, 07:24:03 pm
3 different law enforcement groups interviewing a suspect known to be dangerous, and who just admitted a triple murder, and yet he had a knife?

Its not very clear where this interrogation was taking place?  Wouldn't he have been searched for weapons??? 

So we have a confession, but its not signed, and he's dead now.  Confession further indicts the older brother as an evil doer.  I don't know, but I do wonder, who benefits from this development?

This whole story is filled with surprises. 

Conspiracy theories aside, the chechnyan hoods do seem like an especially fucked up pathological lot.
Title: Re: Explosions At Boston Marathon
Post by: mecch on May 29, 2013, 09:33:13 pm
http://forums.poz.com/index.php?action=post;topic=48244.200;last_msg=589279

As I suspected, the guy was unarmed....  Not that anyone seems to be following this story anymore. 

I don't really believe in conspiracies... Its surely just the disappointing reality that police work is human, iffy, mistake prone.   

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Still, don't understand how they riddled that boat with what sounded like 1000s of shots.  And the brother was unarmed.  And why was it weeks before the news about the confession scrawled on the walls of the boat?