could you tell me if there was a risk? In November I engaged in deep kissing with a guy. About 20 minutes later I licked over my lip and I tasted some blood. I didn't have any wounds on my lips or in my mouth at the time, so I assume, that it was not my own blood but his. Now I am afraid, that he was bleeding during our kiss. While kissing I didn't taste any blood, but both of us were chewing bubble gum. I am afraid that he was bleeding but I didn't taste any blood because of the gum I was chewing. I also gave him a handjob. We didn't have any sex. The guy I kissed slept with a woman of unknown status 3 months before our kiss and didn't use any protection. About 75 hours later (which I know is too late) he went on PeP. He lied to the doctor and told him, that the unprotected sex has happened 1 day before, that's why the doctor prescribed PeP to him although it was already too late. He tested negative by ELISA 6 days after finishing PeP (which is waaaay too early), but refused to get tested another time after that. Now I am afraid that that he might be HIV-positive with a current high viral load in the millions.
Since that day I am living in constant fear, but I am afraid of getting tested because I am afraid of a positive result. I've been reading a lot of posts on this forum in the last few days and in similar cases people were told that they didn't have any risk, but my anxiety is getting the best of me and of course I think that my case is absolutely different from any other cases that happened before. I also have another question: Why is it a risk to perform cunnilingus on a woman who is currently on her period and is bleeding while there is no risk in kissing with blood involved? Where is the difference? I mean...blood is blood and to me it doesn't matter where it comes from.
Kind regards and thanks for answering me!
Jim:
--- Quote ---The guy I kissed slept with a woman of unknown status 3 months before our kiss and didn't use any protection. --- End quote ---
Irrelevant
--- Quote ---About 75 hours later (which I know is too late) he went on PeP. He lied to the doctor and told him, that the unprotected sex has happened 1 day before, that's why the doctor prescribed PeP to him although it was already too late. He tested negative by ELISA 6 days after finishing PeP (which is waaaay too early), but refused to get tested another time after that. --- End quote ---
Also irrelevant
--- Quote ---In November I engaged in deep kissing with a guy. About 20 minutes later I licked over my lip and I tasted some blood. I didn't have any wounds on my lips or in my mouth at the time
--- End quote ---
So you kissed a guy, and 20 minutes later, you think you tasted blood but had no wounds.
--- Quote ---I've been reading a lot of posts on this forum in the last few days and in similar cases people were told that they didn't have any risk --- End quote ---
Perfect. You know the answer already. It's not an HIV risk.
--- Quote ---Why is it a risk to perform cunnilingus on a woman who is currently on her period and is bleeding while there is no risk in kissing with blood involved? Where is the difference? --- End quote ---
Well, the mouth and the vagina are different but it's generally not an HIV concern.
I removed your question about the other organization's claims based on a 1994 story. Now, I don't represent them and therefore can't answer for them.
However, what I can say is this is generally misunderstood as it did not prove kissing was an HIV risk. When directly asked, the same organization has stated and admitted more recently that they have zero documented cases. Why they then hold onto outdated information/stories from before the HAART era, I don't know, but feel free to ask them instead of us.
Jim:
Move on with your life. Use condoms for any intercourse, consider PrEP as an additional layer of prevention, and as you are sexually active, get an STI & HIV screening yearly.
Here's what you need to know to reduce your HIV risks: Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse correctly and consistently, with no exceptions. Consider talking to your healthcare provider about PrEP as an additional layer of protection against HIV
Keep in mind that some sexual practices described as safe in terms of acquiring HIV still pose a risk for other easier-acquired STIs. So please do get tested at least yearly for STIs, including but not limited to HIV, and more frequently if condomless intercourse occurs.
Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms; testing is the only way to know.
Kind regards
Jim
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Afraid111:
Thank you very much for answering me!
So it wouldn't make any difference if he was actually bleeding during our kiss and had a very, very high viral load? This would still be a no-risk-situation? Is it recommended to go on PeP after kissing someone with a high viral load who was bleeding during the kiss? I'm feeling a bit irresponsable because I didn't reconsider PeP for this situation. Could you also tell me which STDs are transmitted easily through kissing or mutual masturbation?
Jim:
I've already answered that the kiss situation you posted about here wasn't an HIV risk to you. I'm not sure why you are asking again, as the answer isn't going to change.
There was no HIV risk and no exposure; therefore, no PEP or testing is needed outside of standard yearly screening. Hence, I said: --- Quote --- Move on with your life. Use condoms for any intercourse, consider PrEP as an additional layer of prevention, and as you are sexually active, get an STI & HIV screening yearly. --- End quote ---
--- Quote from: Afraid111 on January 16, 2024, 10:05:28 am ---Could you also tell me which STDs are transmitted easily through kissing or mutual masturbation?
--- End quote ---
Well, this is an HIV forum, not STIs, but in short, kissing; the risks include Herpes as this can spread through skin contact during viral shredding. Deep kissing could be a risk for Syphilis, Chlamydia and maybe a remote risk of Gonorrhea. I am sure there are a few more.
There is no need to panic or run out to test every time you kiss someone or jerk them off; just remember to get an STI screening yearly.