Massage Fingering with Cum RISK

[batman1231]

Hi, this is my first post here and appreciate your thoughts in advance!
I had a sexual encounter with a trans sex worker. I was the top and wore protection which included lubrication, the condom stayed intact.

I touched the condom after I pulled out, then took the condom off and touched my penis. Hopefully there's no risk there, but my bigger concern is that once the condom was removed, I received an unprotected blowjob until finishing in the mouth of the sex worker.

I used the shower within 2 minutes of finishing and washed up.

Is this something to be concerned about? Should I consider taking PEP?

[Jim Allen]

Hiya,

Getting your penis sucked is not an HIV risk, saliva is not HIV infectious, it also contains over a dozen elements that neutralize HIV. Let me put it this way after 40 years in terms of BJ's there hasn’t been a single documented case of HIV transmission to an insertive partner (the person being "sucked") and you will not be the first.

If this was your only sexual encounter than relax and move on with your life!

Here's what you need to know to reduce your HIV risks:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse correctly and consistently, with no exceptions. Consider talking to your healthcare provider about PrEP as an additional layer of protection against HIV

Keep in mind that some sexual practices described as safe in terms of acquiring HIV still pose a risk for other easier-acquired STIs. So please do get tested at least yearly for STIs, including but not limited to HIV, and more frequently if condomless intercourse occurs.

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms; testing is the only way to know.

Kind regards

Jim

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[batman1231]

Thanks for the info and thoughts. The sex worker told me he takes PrEP and checks every 3 months, but I am taking this person at their word.

Even though I used condom for the anal sex I am still paranoid. Would taking PEP be overkill or can I just take to be extra safe?

[Jim Allen]

This event does not warrant even testing outside of routine let alone PEP.

HIV can't transmit through an intact latex or polyurethane condom. If a condom fails during intercourse it's obvious, now as long as this obvious issue did not happen stressing about "what ifs" & "PEP" after a sexual encounter is not very rational.

I recommend you move on with your life and simply test at least yearly out of standard routine for HIV & STI's as everyone should. Consider starting PrEP (Not PEP) going forward as an additional layer of protection against HIV

[batman1231]

Hi, Thanks in advance for your time! I received a massage from a trans sex worker. At the beginning she rubbed up against my backside (no penetration, no condom) and then after placing the condom on, she penetrated me from behind for about 30 seconds (wore a condom for this the entire time). There was no breakage as I checked to make sure afterward. Lube was used although not sure whether it was water or oil based. Also, the condoms were in my glove compartment for about 6-8 weeks or so prior, but maybe a moot point to that and the lube as the condom did remain intact. She didn't finish inside and there was no visible damage to my anus (no bleeding, etc). Still, I've read condoms are very effective but not 100%. Is this something to worry about or consider PEP over? Thanks again for your time!

[Jim Allen]

HIV can't transmit through an intact latex or polyurethane condom. If a condom fails during intercourse it's obvious, now as long as this obvious issue did not happen move on with your life and stop reading crap online.

[Jim Allen]

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[batman1231]

Hi there!
I had a new incident last night where I received a massage from a shemale sex worker. She cleaned my anus with a wet wipe which caused some stinging and irritation at first, but then got on top (I was the bottom) and rubbed her raw penis against my anus (without protection). Then used lube and saliva to finger my anus and afterwards placed a condom on and inserted into me for about 5 minutes till I finished. She did NOT finish at all and afterward I took off her condom and went to the bathroom to make sure it was still intact which it was. Is this incident a cause for concern? Normally I would say no, but based on risk calculators online I've seen, my risk seems to be increased since she was uncircumcised, and I also have HSV2 (non symptomatic but apparently that can increase white blood cells to the area which increases risk even without symptoms). Today my anus is pretty irritated/itchy/sore, but probably from discomfort as I'm not used to anything in there! Appreciate your time and insight on this!! Just wanted to provide all the info!

[Jim Allen]

Hiya,

I've merged your posts. Please keep the below in mind.

As a member of the "Do I have HIV" Forum you are required to only post in this one thread no matter how long between visits or the subject matter.

You can find this thread by going to your profile and selecting show own post and it will take you here. It helps us to help you when you keep all your thoughts or questions in one thread and it helps other readers to follow the discussion. Any additional threads will be deleted.

Also if you try to create multiple accounts again it will lead to a ban. I issued you a warning in Nov and today you tried again.

Duplicate accounts and sock-puppetry.  Warning first to individuals with an open existing account; an immediate ban issued to individuals who are timed out and attempt to create a second account.

[Jim Allen]

Rubbing against your anus and fingering isn't an HIV risk.

As for the intercourse, HIV can't transmit through an intact latex or polyurethane condom. If a condom fails during intercourse it's obvious, now as long as this obvious issue did not happen move on with your life and stop reading crap online.

Her being uncircumcised does not increase your risk or somehow transport HIV through the condom, same can be said for herpes and on that topic, the only obvious risk from this encounter was she could acquire herpes from you.

Jim

P.S - Note, please don't use the term "she-male" on the forums.

[batman1231]

Thanks Jim! Sorry for that I really wanted to ask and didn't realize I could pay to do that. Won't happen again.

That's correct the condom remained intact as I filled it with water afterward to make sure nothing was leaking from the bottom!

Lastly you said that her being uncircumsized increases my risk, but does that change your opinion on the incident and my exposure as it relates to HIV?

Have a good night!

[Jim Allen]

Her being uncircumcised does not increase your risk or magically transport HIV through the condom. Herpes can however through skin to skin contact in areas not covered by the condom spread even when you don't have an outbreak. 

Testing the condom with water after intercourse could damage the condom, as it's not designed as a reusable (re-stressed) product and this could lead you to mistakenly think that the condom was damaged during sex, when in fact you actually caused the damage after the intercourse by trying to "test" it with water. In short, testing the condom yourself before or after use is not a reliable way to tell you anything and a step shy of paranoia if you ask me. Instead, use condoms correctly and consistently.

[golfer95]

Hi Jim (and everyone),
I just had a trans massage and the therapist ejaculated on my chest. She briefly wiped some of the cum with her other hand, then immediately used that same hand to finger my ass for about 1-2 minutes till I finished. I realized after that there was likely cum on her hand/finger, and I'm wondering if this is a risk / should I take PEP? Thanks so much for your thoughts!

[Jim Allen]

Hiya,

Read your post three times; what you posted here wasn't an HIV risk to you. 

Here's what you need to know to reduce your HIV risks:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse correctly and consistently, with no exceptions. Consider talking to your healthcare provider about PrEP as an additional layer of protection against HIV

Keep in mind that some sexual practices described as safe in terms of acquiring HIV still pose a risk for other easier-acquired STIs. So please do get tested at least yearly for STIs, including but not limited to HIV, and more frequently if condomless intercourse occurs.

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms; testing is the only way to know.

Kind regards

Jim

Please Note.
As a member of the "Do I have HIV" Forum, you are required to only post in this one thread no matter how long between visits or the subject matter. You can find this thread by going to your profile and selecting show own post, which will take you here. It helps us to help you when you keep all your thoughts or questions in one thread, and it helps other readers to follow the discussion. Any additional threads will be removed.

[golfer95]

Thanks so much for the info - is that because once cum is outside the body any potential HIV is "damaged" even if a finger were to be placed inside? I don't think there was much, if any, but it was a scenario that atleast made me want to ask you for thoughts! Thanks again!

[Jim Allen]

Thanks so much for the info - is that because once cum is outside the body any potential HIV is "damaged" even if a finger were to be placed inside?

HIV is indeed fragile, and once exposed outside the body, the receptors needed to infect corrode.

Besides, that fingering lacks several conditions needed regardless of what they had on their finger for this to be a route to acquire HIV. Hence it makes perfect sense that in the 40+ years of the HIV pandemic, there hasn't been a single case the way you fear, and you will not be the world's first.

I just had a trans massage and the therapist ejaculated on my chest.

I edited your recent post to read "trans" instead of what you posted, and I had warned before not to use the wording you did. I've also already told you that fingering isn't an HIV risk and that creating multiple forums accounts would lead to a ban.

You knew this, ignored my warning and did it anyway, so you are now banned.