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Jim Allen:
Really good call today and I'll post some notes later on

leatherman:
a whole lot of peer support.
-ugh. health care in America sucks.....and that's when you have access to it. and mental health care is bad too...even when you have limited access to it.

some American politics and European culture
-a lot of racism and a lot of tribalism going on these days.

a mix of LTS chat and discussions about simply living with HIV for a long time.
-thank goodness, the old days are the "OLD" days, amirite? ;D

laughs and good times all around, like usual.  ;)  ;D ;D

Jim Allen:

--- Quote from: leatherman on September 23, 2023, 12:33:42 pm ---a whole lot of peer support.
-ugh. health care in America sucks.....and that's when you have access to it. and mental health care is bad too...even when you have limited access to it.

some American politics and European culture
-a lot of racism and a lot of tribalism going on these days.

a mix of LTS chat and discussions about simply living with HIV for a long time.
-thank goodness, the old days are the "OLD" days, amirite? ;D

laughs and good times all around, like usual.  ;)  ;D ;D

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 :)

- Englishman in New York, HIV Stigma & studies study under healthcare providers outcome, Mindfulness, Mental health care, Homelessness, Spiders. 

leatherman:

--- Quote from: Jim Allen on September 23, 2023, 01:38:56 pm ---HIV Stigma & studies study under healthcare providers outcome

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I know I commented about this report in the other thread; but thanks for sharing that. The whole thing was really interesting. Quite frankly, I think the reason I trusted the results and liked it so much was because of some of the "bad" responses. If the results had been that everyone was hunky-dory with all things HIV, I'd have known the study didn't ask the right questions, didn't question enough people, or wasn't confidential enough that people could honestly answer. The results though show what PLHIV know: outside of HIV clinics, healthcare professional aren't very knowledgeable about HIV; some healthcare personnel are under-educated in general about cleanliness and precautions much less HIV; and some are just bigoted jerks.


--- Quote from: Jim Allen on September 23, 2023, 01:38:56 pm ---Spiders.

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Ick. ick. ick.
Our property backs up to some woods with a small creek running along the side. I run into spiders and webs all the damn time! After we left our call today, the doggos wanted out and I wanted to smoke. 8) Stepping on the deck by the pool, I ran through a spiderweb - and the large writing spider I knocked loose ran across my head. :o :o :o But, no bites and only one manly scream as I thrashed about to knock the spider off. No neighbors were around (and I'll leave the screaming part out when I tell this story to Larry. LOL) so it was all good.

Jim Allen:

--- Quote from: leatherman on September 23, 2023, 03:43:08 pm ---I know I commented about this report in the other thread; but thanks for sharing that. The whole thing was really interesting. Quite frankly, I think the reason I trusted the results and liked it so much was because of some of the "bad" responses. If the results had been that everyone was hunky-dory with all things HIV, I'd have known the study didn't ask the right questions, didn't question enough people, or wasn't confidential enough that people could honestly answer. The results though show what PLHIV know: outside of HIV clinics, healthcare professional aren't very knowledgeable about HIV; some healthcare personnel are under-educated in general about cleanliness and precautions much less HIV; and some are just bigoted jerks.

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https://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=76570.msg

Indeed. I also thought it was very interesting and that it confirmed the experiences PLHIV have flagged for years when dealing with non-HIV specific healthcare providers, some of them are horribly outdated although somewhat understandable and at the end of the day healthcare providers are just people, and some people are just assholes.

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