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Re: Help guys! (and gals :0) )
« Reply #50 on: April 25, 2007, 07:37:46 PM »
12/13 weeks is a conclusive test. Post then, when you get your results.

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Re: Help guys! (and gals :0) )
« Reply #51 on: April 26, 2007, 07:43:16 PM »
I just talked today with a conselour at the Fenway Health clinic in boston, he told me not to use the oral rapid test as it is not reliable and does not detect HIV as quickly as a blood test, is this true?

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Re: Help guys! (and gals :0) )
« Reply #52 on: April 26, 2007, 09:42:13 PM »
What he told you is not true.

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Re: Help guys! (and gals :0) )
« Reply #53 on: April 27, 2007, 09:37:08 PM »
Tommorrow will be 12 weeks since the incident, the longest, strangest 12 weeks of my life.  All these symptoms all these feelings, I just feel worn out and sad.  I tested negative at 40 days, but I just have a gut feeling this isn't going to turn out for me.  On the other hand sometimes I feel just like a fool for being worried and tell myself that 40 days was more than enough and I need to move on with my life.  I just feel conflicted.

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Re: Help guys! (and gals :0) )
« Reply #54 on: April 29, 2007, 11:17:28 AM »
So I am going in for the HIV test tommorrow, but I just talked with my insurance company and they stated two things.

1) Oral sex without a condom is a high risk activity for HIV, especially for men who have sex with men
2) My result would not be conclusive until 6 months after the event.

So now I have to wait another whole six months for this "high risk" event?

geez....

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Re: Help guys! (and gals :0) )
« Reply #55 on: April 29, 2007, 11:27:40 AM »
Call your insurance company back up and tell them to get updated on transmission and testing. Both answers YOU said they gave, are INCORRECT..

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Re: Help guys! (and gals :0) )
« Reply #56 on: April 29, 2007, 08:50:07 PM »
Tommorrow is the 12-13 week since this all started and I'm just starting to wonder why I have been so worried and anxious this entire time.  I know Andy and Ann have given up on me, but I still feel this impending feeling of doom, what can I do to bring me to take that test?

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« Reply #57 on: April 30, 2007, 05:46:18 PM »
Tommorrow is the 12-13 week since this all started and I'm just starting to wonder why I have been so worried and anxious this entire time.  I know Andy and Ann have given up on me, but I still feel this impending feeling of doom, what can I do to bring me to take that test?

You walk in there, sit your arse down, answer their questions and have the frigging test done. It's not difficult and you'll get no sympathy from any of us because we have far scarier blood tests performed on a monthly basis and we manage to cope with it.

Especially since the result of your antibody test will be negative.

MtD

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Re: Help guys! (and gals :0) )
« Reply #58 on: April 30, 2007, 06:09:57 PM »
I don't know if Rod seriously wants you to call the insurance company back. Although he's absolutely right about it being outrageous that they're handing out such blatantly incorrect dis-information.

Do follow Matty's intructions to the letter.

Then collect the inevitable negative result at 13 weeks, which I hope will get you to let go of this unwarranted concern. No kidding. 
Andy Velez

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Re: Help guys! (and gals :0) )
« Reply #59 on: May 01, 2007, 09:28:16 PM »
So I contacted the guy I slept with and we had a good long discussion.

Turns out he is in the military and got tested about 10 days after our meeting, and was negative for HIV.  He said his last partner was in December, so more than six weeks before we got together.

Should I be feeling good about this, or am I just kidding mysellf?

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NEGATIVE!
« Reply #60 on: May 02, 2007, 05:44:34 PM »
NEGATIVE at 87 days 12.5 weeks...oral fluid Oraquick Advance...Can I crack open a beer?!?!

Thanks Andy, Ann, Rod, and EVERYONE else in the forum through this difficult three months, your opinions, comments, and support really helped me through this.  I want to say thanks to all!

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Re: Help guys! (and gals :0) )
« Reply #61 on: May 03, 2007, 10:36:00 PM »
87 days is sufficent right guys?

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« Reply #62 on: May 03, 2007, 10:42:30 PM »
87 days is sufficent right guys?
Yes. And tell your insurance company to go on aidmeds.com. They may learn something that they obviously don't know.

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mar 08: cd4 392 (23%) vl 75548
jun 08: cd4 325 (27%) vl 45880
oct 08: cd4 197 (20%) vl 154000 <== aids diagnosis
nov 2 08 start Atripla
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Re: Help guys! (and gals :0) )
« Reply #63 on: May 04, 2007, 05:09:44 AM »
Lagoon,

Yes, you are conclusively hiv negative. Twelve weeks, thirteen weeks, it doesn't really matter. The window period is three months and some countries define three months as being twelve weeks (such as the UK and most of Europe) while other countries define three months as thirteen weeks.

You're good to go - move on with your life. Keep on using those condoms correctly and consistently and you will continue to avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann
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Re: Help guys! (and gals :0) )
« Reply #64 on: May 15, 2007, 10:22:40 PM »
when is a six month test necessary, why does the CDC still reccomend this?

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« Reply #65 on: May 15, 2007, 11:05:38 PM »
I think you will find the 6 months testing applies mostly to health care workers..normally after a baseline test has been done at the time of exposure, i.e a needle stick injury, a follow-up test could be performed at 6 weeks, 12 weeks, and 6 months after exposure...other than that a 3 month test is the norm so if you have had a negative test at 3 months then you are free to go and enjoy life...but take heed about what Ann has to say about those condoms.

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« Reply #66 on: May 15, 2007, 11:06:48 PM »
when is a six month test necessary, why does the CDC still reccomend this?
Because the CDC is a governmental entity and doesn't want to be sued, so they issue the worst case scenario. The worst case scenario hasn't happened.

I thought you were enjoying your life and left the forums?

Milker.
mid-dec: stupid ass
mid-jan: seroconversion
mid-feb: poz
mar 07: cd4 432 (35%) vl 54000
may 07: cd4 399 (28%) vl 27760
jul 07: cd4 403 (26%) vl 99241
oct 07: cd4 353 (24%) vl 29993
jan 08: cd4 332 (26%) vl 33308
mar 08: cd4 392 (23%) vl 75548
jun 08: cd4 325 (27%) vl 45880
oct 08: cd4 197 (20%) vl 154000 <== aids diagnosis
nov 2 08 start Atripla
nov 30 08: cd4 478 (23%) vl 1880 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
feb 19 09: cd4 398 (24%) vl 430 getting there!
apr 23 09: cd4 604 (29%) vl 50 woohoo :D :D
jul 30 09: cd4 512 (29%) vl undetectable :D :D
may 27 10: cd4 655 (32%) vl undetectable :D :D

Now accepting applications from blowjob ninjas™

Offline Lagoon77

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Re: Help guys! (and gals :0) )
« Reply #67 on: June 12, 2007, 11:38:46 PM »
hey guys,

just met up with the guy I slept with before, he mentioned that he likes to bareback, all of the sudden I am freaking out again, is the 87 day rapid oral test accurate or do I need to go get a full blood scan?

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« Reply #68 on: June 13, 2007, 01:11:51 AM »
Lagoon,

Yes, you are conclusively hiv negative. Twelve weeks, thirteen weeks, it doesn't really matter. The window period is three months and some countries define three months as being twelve weeks (such as the UK and most of Europe) while other countries define three months as thirteen weeks.

You're good to go - move on with your life. Keep on using those condoms correctly and consistently and you will continue to avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann


Lagoon-

Reread what Ann has told you. You are negative. Accept the good news graciously and move on with your life.

Always use condoms and water-based lube for anal and/or vaginal sex and do not share IV drug works with anyone and you should be fine. Sucking on a condom will do you no harm, but in the face of overwhelming data, unprotected oral sex poses no real risk either. So it's your choice...

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Offline Lagoon77

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Quick follow up question
« Reply #69 on: July 23, 2007, 10:14:41 PM »
Hey Guys-

Quick question, I know this sounds crazy but I am unsure of things.  Tonight I was with a guy I meet every once in a while, he is married so doesn't typically do much with guys.  Anyways we were jerking each other off, and as I went to spit on my hand I tasted a slight amount of pre-cum.  Does this warrant testing for HIV at three months...trying to be super safe until I meet the right guy. 

Thanks!

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« Reply #70 on: July 23, 2007, 10:24:25 PM »
Mutual masturbation and an incident such as you have described are NOT a risk for HIV transmission. Your saliva contains inhibitory elements which render the precum (if in fact you really tasted it and IF the guy is HIV negative) a non-risk for transmission.

Once again you are stressing needlessly.

Really.
Andy Velez

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Oral Sex with a Bite
« Reply #71 on: December 28, 2007, 08:26:57 PM »
Sorry Rapid when I posted to this it said I had not posted to in 60 days and should start a new topic....

Hi Guys-

need your advice on this one....

I am a gay man, last night I performed oral sex on another man.  In the process I believe I scraped his penis and he withdrew in pain.  He grabbed a towel to wrap his penis and found it was slightly bleeding. (Small spots onthe towel).  I am now afaraid I have been exposed to his blood and therefore have a high hiv risk.

I talked to him today and he stated he has been tested and is clean, however I know this is only as good as his word.  Should I consider PEP it has not even been 24 hours.

Thanks

Offline Lagoon77

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« Reply #72 on: December 28, 2007, 09:13:50 PM »
just one more point, the guy did not ejaculate in my mouth, he pulled out shortly after I thnk he was hurt

Offline RapidRod

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« Reply #73 on: December 29, 2007, 04:51:10 AM »
You didn't have a risk and don't need PEP. If you are going to give head at least learn how to do it correctly.

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« Reply #74 on: December 29, 2007, 05:08:22 AM »
I agree with Rod..no risk.

Please refrain from using the word "clean" in your posts it is classed as an insult to those of us living with HIV..believe me we all take very good care of our personal hygiene.

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Offline Lagoon77

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Re: Help guys! (and gals :0) )
« Reply #75 on: December 29, 2007, 11:19:50 AM »
Annie - My Apologies

Why is there not a risk in this case?  My thoughts were always that blood is highly infectious, and the mouth isa mucus membrane....therefore seems like a fairly high risk to me?

THe qty of blood was probably a few drops.....does that make a difference?

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« Reply #76 on: December 29, 2007, 11:41:06 AM »
The mouth is a mucuous membrane, but it contains saliva - which has enzymes in it that damage and deactivate the virus and impair its ability to infect.  Also, all mucous membranes are not completely equal because their functions within the body differ.  The colon, for example, is specifically designed for absorption so that makes it a particularly welcoming environment for transmission of this virus. 

AIDS isn't for sissies.

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« Reply #77 on: December 29, 2007, 11:48:10 AM »
PS:  And trolling around other AAI threads (like I see you doing right now) to get additional fodder for worry won't help your situation, so I'm saying this now before you start coming back here with, "I think my teeth were rotten or my gums might have been bleeding" or whatever other spin you wanna put on it. 

If you really think you have a legitimate worry, you'll need to see a doctor...but our current advice is that you are fine and don't need to worry.

Preemptively,

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« Reply #78 on: December 30, 2007, 03:15:55 PM »
Thank you all for your responses (includng the premptive ones)

Just a point of discussion, are there any cases of oral sex that you would say are risky?  I guess my ideas of risk are out of wack, I always thought blood exposure was very risky and that any type of exposure would warrent testing.

Thanks

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« Reply #79 on: December 31, 2007, 02:08:52 PM »
any inisght to this guys?

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« Reply #80 on: December 31, 2007, 02:53:45 PM »
Lagoon,

You didn't have a risk and it's time you moved on.

Ann
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« Reply #81 on: January 09, 2008, 08:34:12 PM »
Is there a certain qty of blood in which you would be concerned?

I did have a tooth filling about 36 hours before, and had a shot of novicane, would this increae my risk?

I'm just having a hard time beliving that getting blood in your mouth is no risk

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« Reply #82 on: January 09, 2008, 08:38:19 PM »
Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

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« Reply #83 on: January 10, 2008, 10:08:10 AM »
You want insight?

OK.

You're behaving obsessively compulsive about HIV. If you continue to look for more details and what ifs to worry about you are going to find them. Obsessive behavior is addictive. If you can't stop with this HIV stuff then I suggest it's time for you to see a therapist or other professional to discuss what's driving your unwarranted concern with these details.

I am unwilling to get into further responses to each additional what if you bring up. As has been pointed out you are teetering on getting a time out. Get on with your life and if you can't do that then get yourself some professional help.
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« Reply #84 on: January 24, 2008, 11:32:50 PM »
I was just reading the other posts in the other forums and SO many people say they got it from Oral Sex....how can you guys say its not a risk when people in THIS forum say its a risk????

I feel doomed

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« Reply #85 on: January 25, 2008, 12:37:13 AM »
Matty the Damned gives up and leaves you at the mercy of the Goderators.

Reported.

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« Reply #86 on: January 25, 2008, 05:25:45 AM »
Lagoon

I have given you a 28 day TO, I hope you will spend this time getting the help you need because we can't help you anymore.

Please do not try and get around your ban with different user name, if you do it will lead to a permanent ban.

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« Reply #87 on: February 25, 2008, 12:35:00 PM »
So I took my time out-

I've rested and stayed away from the site, however I've also found I've become deeply depressed.  Two things have happened since the event.

I received oral sex from a guy, and developed NGU about a week later (perfect for a guy who is worried about STD's and HIV), I've also developed a very bad cold.   Cough, sinus congestion, and some headache. 

However, I've also gotten in the habit of taking my temperature daily, the highest I have recorded it is 99.1 (which was about three weeks after the first encounter of giving oral sex) Besides this cold, is the lack of the flu like symptoms better evidence that I didn't catch it from this encounter, or am I pulling at straws here.

I just want to be like my old self.

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« Reply #88 on: February 25, 2008, 02:13:17 PM »
Lag,

You should know by now that getting blown isn't a risk for hiv infection. Keep this up and you'll get another time time, for 56 days this time.

Ann
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« Reply #89 on: March 17, 2008, 09:47:39 PM »
Why are so many men getting HIV lately?  It seems like it has come back strong, could Oral Sex be playing a bigger part in this???  Thats all I partipate in, yet I feel anxious....where do I go for help?

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« Reply #90 on: March 17, 2008, 10:12:58 PM »
Lagoon,

They're getting HIV because they're fucking each other in the bum without condoms. If you're thinking of using this to start one of your "zomg! I'm sure I've got AIDS coz I had oral" things, think again.

MtD

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« Reply #91 on: March 17, 2008, 10:58:28 PM »
amazing people don't get the clue and use condoms for that, thanks Matt

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« Reply #92 on: March 17, 2008, 11:05:41 PM »
Yeah really. Have you got the clue Lagoon?

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Oraquick Oral Test Accuracy
« Reply #93 on: September 16, 2008, 08:15:46 PM »
I just read the news about the Oraquick test accuracy coming into question, do you guys have an opinion about the recent news?

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« Reply #94 on: September 16, 2008, 08:22:06 PM »
It wasn't a big enough concern for the FDA to put a hault to it's use. Taken at the correct time I would trust the results.

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Re: Oraquick Oral Test Accuracy
« Reply #95 on: September 16, 2008, 08:25:46 PM »
Thanks Rapid, I tested at six weeks and 12.5 weeks....oral fluid test....is that accurate?

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« Reply #96 on: September 16, 2008, 08:28:31 PM »
You never had a risk to begin with. So it would be conclusive.

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« Reply #97 on: September 16, 2008, 08:29:40 PM »
By the way return to your orginal thead. See the posting guidelines in the "Welcome" thread.

Offline Lagoon77

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Re: Oraquick Oral Test Accuracy
« Reply #98 on: September 16, 2008, 08:34:35 PM »
I was going to but when I was going to post, it said the old thread was older than 60 days and I should consider starting a new topic.

Will do in the future, sorry.

Offline Lagoon77

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Re: Oraquick Oral Test Accuracy
« Reply #99 on: September 16, 2008, 08:45:47 PM »
Rod-

I've also seen you make remarks that oral tests are lest senstive then blood in general, is that true even when you test up tothe window period?

 


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