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Offline Lagoon77

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Oraquick Oral Test Accuracy
« on: March 04, 2007, 03:41:27 PM »
I am in need of a second opinion to my current situation. 1 month ago I had protected anal receptive sex and unprotected receptive oral sex w/o ejaculation for either. About 7-8 days later I developed a sore throat, difficulty swallowing, and on day 9 developed a full body rash/redness. (skin turned white when pressed down on). The rash lasted about 1 day, but the sore throat lasted nearly three weeks until I went to see a doctor, who performed a swab and came back "slight positive" for strep. He did not notice any enlarged lymph nodes in my neck. I also developed a white coating on my tongue, that appeared like a plaque. I was given antibiotics and the throat problems cleared about three days later, and the plaque retreated off my tongue. I always try to practice safer sex, but this incident really scares me, do you think it could be ARS given only the "slight positive" on the strep test? Should I obtain further testing? Thanks for your help.

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Re: Scary coincidence or ARS??? PLEASE HELP!
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2007, 04:49:00 PM »
Anyone have any knowledge/can help with this one?  Very nervous....

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Re: Scary coincidence or ARS??? PLEASE HELP!
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2007, 05:03:16 PM »
Lagoon,

Sorry, missed you somehow...

The protected anal was just that, protected. Condoms have been proven to prevent hiv infection. No risk.

It is rare to become infected through giving a blowjob and you don't really need to test over this specifically either - especially as there wasn't even ejaculation taking place in your mouth. There have been long-term studies of couples where one is positive and one is negative. In the couples who used condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, but no barrier for oral activities, not one of the negative partners became infected with hiv. Not one. This shows us two things. One, condoms are very effective for the prevention of hiv transmission. Two, oral sex is much lower risk than previously believed. We now have the evidence that oral sex (giving a blowjob) is a very low risk activity where hiv transmission is concerned.

You say you waited three weeks to get your sore throat checked out, and then were surprised when you only got a "slight positive" for strep? You were likely in the process of recovering from the strep. Your symptoms sound like strep and you have a positive strep result. Sounds like you had strep throat and strep throat has nothing to do with hiv.

Although you don't need to test over this specific incident, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL STIs together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with a sexually transmitted infection. Sex with a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence. The links are well worth checking out, even if you're used to using condoms. A correctly used condom rarely breaks and that means you'll be protected.

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Re: Scary coincidence or ARS??? PLEASE HELP!
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2007, 06:48:17 PM »
Thanks for the response, greatly appreciated.

I am just really nervous from all this, I thought I did the right things, used a condom, didn't ejaculate during oral or sex, but yet I come down ill so close?? Just makes me really scared.

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Re: Scary coincidence or ARS??? PLEASE HELP!
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2007, 06:58:09 PM »
Lagoon,

People get sick and sometimes it just happens to happen after they've had sex. It doesn't mean they've been infected with hiv. Symptoms or even the lack of symptoms mean absolutely NOTHING when it comes to hiv infection. ONLY testing will reliably inform you of your hiv status.

As I said to you earlier, while I see no reason for you to test over this specific incident, if you aren't already having regular sexual health care check ups, now is the time to start. It's what responsible, sexually active adults do.

As long as you haven't been engaging in unprotected intercourse, I would fully expect your routine hiv test to return negative results. If you want more in-depth information on transmission and testing, read the Welcome Thread and follow the links.

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ARS Symptoms similar to strep throat?
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2007, 11:01:42 AM »
About one week after having unprtoected oral sex with no ejaculation and protected (I hope) anal sex with no ejaculation I developed a bad sore throat. My skin also became very flush for about a day (not sure if it was a rash or just anxiety) I went to the doctor and had a "slight positive" strep test and a 99.2 fever, my question is is this indicitive about ARS? I didn't ask my doc as I was very nervous and scared, any help on this matter is greatly appreciated.

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Re: ARS Symptoms similar to strep throat?
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2007, 11:39:35 AM »
Lagoon,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.

So-called "ARS symptoms" are similar to the symptoms of hundreds of other illnesses. That is why we cannot diagnose hiv through symptoms.

Please re-read the answers you have already had in this thread. The answers are not going to change.

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Re: ARS Symptoms similar to strep throat?
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2007, 11:49:48 AM »
last night I woke up drenched in sweat, this is six weeks post exposure, no real symptoms over the past week until this, took my temperature this morning and it was 98.5....what is going on with me?

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Re: ARS Symptoms similar to strep throat?
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2007, 01:04:52 PM »
...what is going on with me?

Lagoon,

We cannot possibly diagnose you. If you're worried about what is going on with you, you need to see your doctor, not post about it on an internet forum.

You've already been told you are highly unlikely to have been infected with hiv through what you describe. Certainly not through the protected anal and it's unlikely through giving a blowjob without ejaculation (or with, for that matter) either. You're more likely to win a ten million dollar lottery than you are to end up positive from this incident. You don't even need to test over this specific incident.

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Re: ARS Symptoms similar to strep throat?
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2007, 06:50:11 PM »
I just talked to a guy I made out with, had insertive oral (no ejaculation with) about three weeks after this occurance (these are the only two guys I've been with in three years) and he came down with a bad sore throat.  Went to the doctor who said it was strep also (didn't to a swab), do you think I gave him HIV as well or is it jus the strep?

Please help!

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Re: ARS Symptoms similar to strep throat?
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2007, 07:48:44 PM »
Reread Ann's last reply to you.

Offline Lagoon77

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Re: ARS Symptoms similar to strep throat?
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2007, 10:22:06 AM »
going to test today...and preparing for the worst...very scared

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Re: ARS Symptoms similar to strep throat?
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2007, 12:47:51 PM »
You shouldnt be.  Based on what you have told us it will be negative.
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in a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,
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Re: ARS Symptoms similar to strep throat?
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2007, 09:57:35 AM »
I haven't tested yet, I'm in the grips of fear about this, I'm just worried, what if the condom broke and I didn't know it, what if it slipped off and he didn't tell me....the closeness of the symptoms is driving me insane....I'm scared to death I'm going to walk into the clinic and I am going to be told the terrible news, why did I choose to be so dumb....

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Re: ARS Symptoms similar to strep throat?
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2007, 02:19:25 PM »
40 Days Negative!  Can I be satsified yet?

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Re: ARS Symptoms similar to strep throat?
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2007, 02:34:13 PM »
When are you suppose to test? Don't say you don't know. You are back and forth between this forum and Medhelp. You know what the answer is.

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Re: ARS Symptoms similar to strep throat?
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2007, 02:37:40 PM »
I took the test this afternoon, it was negative at 40 days.  Is this reliable?

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Re: ARS Symptoms similar to strep throat?
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2007, 02:41:55 PM »
Go to the "Welcome" thread and click the link to the HIV testing lessons and read its entirety.

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Re: ARS Symptoms similar to strep throat?
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2007, 02:48:35 PM »
So I have to wait 13 weeks....ok...well thanks Rod

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Re: ARS Symptoms similar to strep throat?
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2007, 02:55:41 PM »
lagoon,

40 days is nearly six weeks. I would not expect your result to change - especially considering you didn't really have a risk. If you cannot accept your result, confirm it at three months, just don't expect the result to change.

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Re: ARS Symptoms similar to strep throat?
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2007, 06:06:02 PM »
Thanks Ann, how often does someone test negative at 40 days or six weeks, and then positive at 13?

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Re: ARS Symptoms similar to strep throat?
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2007, 08:11:30 PM »
anyone have an answer to this?

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Help guys! (and gals :0) )
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2007, 06:14:39 PM »
Hey guys, thanks for all the GREAT work you do, you don't know how many lives you SAVE by talking clear safer sex in these forums.

Heres my question:

I had what I believe to be protected receptive anal sex with no ejaculation and receptive oral sex with no ejaculation with a partner who claimed he tested negative two weeks after our encounter and that the condom did not break.....but how do I know for sure right?

Anyways, I had an HIV test at 40 days, it was the Oraquick Advance Oral Fluid test and it was negative..whoohoo right?  Well anyways I've heard many conlicting reports based on the risk factors I have had, and I wanted to gain your opinions for the following question:

1)If I WERE to be experiencing symptoms one to two weeks after exposure, who I test positive by day 40?
2)Do I need additional testing, or can I be confident in my WHOOHOO!
3)I had what I think is a stomach virus right at week 6 (achy muscles, fatigued, diarreah, felt very warm), could I have been seroconverting then?

I'm a normal healthy 24 year old male, maybe get sick once or twice a year.

your help is VERY appreciated.

Thanks! :-)

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« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2007, 06:27:56 PM »
Trying, as far as anal sex is concerned you did exactly the right thing by having the insertive partner use a condom. Way to go! Even if he had ejaculated you would still have been protected. Condoms do the job very effectively of preventing HIV transmission.

As far as giving oral is concerned there is a great deal of evidence that it is not a risk for transmission, particularly if ejaculation doesn't take place. But there have been a few anecdotal cases of people claiming that was their only risk and they became infected. The longterm studies of sero-discordant couples where there was lots of protected intercourse and unprotected oral resulted in not a single sero-negative partner becoming infected. So it's a matter of deciding what your comfort zone is about what you will do.

We do in general recommend that anyone who's sexually active should get tested regularly with a full STD panel. At least annually and every six months is even better. But I don't see any need to get tested for this incident in particular.

As to your symptoms, there is nothing HIV specific about any of them. But then neither the presence or absence of symptoms is ever the way to know about your HIV status. Only an HIV test can give you that answer if you have had a real risk. This incident did not fall into that category.

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Re: Help guys! (and gals :0) )
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2007, 06:34:06 PM »
So even in the event that the condom may have broke and I was unaware (obviously a lot is going on at that moment!) is a 40 day test sufficent to be confident of my negative status?

Thanks Andy!

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« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2007, 06:40:57 PM »
When a condom breaks it is not a subtle event. Often when people are worried they start thinking what if there was this teensy weensy hole and HIV got in through that.

Uh uh. It doesn't happen that way. When a condom fails the guy wearing it suddenly has a hula hoop with fringe around his johnson and it's very clear what's happened.

A negative test result is always a good thing, although in this case I don't think testing was even necessary. Also, the average time to seroconversion is 22 days. All but the very smallest number of those who are going to seroconvert will do so within 4-6 weeks after a GENUINE risk, which this incident wasn't.
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Re: Help guys! (and gals :0) )
« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2007, 07:18:51 PM »
long you are hiv neg u can save a life by gaving blood make sure all your tests are NEG , good luck stay safe

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« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2007, 09:25:12 PM »
godblessu, do not post in any other's threads other than your own.

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« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2007, 10:10:10 AM »
Ok that was a strange post...

Anyway, I've been looking around, and Oral Sex even without ejaculation is a risk for HIV infection, I know it is small, but I want to make sure I'm HIV negative, given the risks, is a negative test accurate at 40 days?

Thanks

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« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2007, 10:33:16 AM »
The CDC recommends testing at 13 weeks if there has been a risky incident to get a reliable result.

In your case I wouldn't have even thought testing to be necessary. You have to decide what will allow you to let go of this concern. If your current negative result does that, fine. If not, re-test at 13 weeks and collect what I expect will be another similar result.

We always recommend that anyone who's sexually active get a full STD panel done regularly. Which means at least annually and every six months is even better.

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« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2007, 07:45:31 AM »
tryingtomakeit77

Can I ask why you are using different usernames while posting to our forums? Thus far, you have also used Lagoon77

Please realize that this kind of activity is disrespectful of other forum members, as well as our moderators. People spend a considerable amount of time helping others in these forums. Using multiple accounts is at the very least annoying, if not deceiving and disrespectful of others. It is also against our Terms of Membership which you agreed to when you became a member. This information is also contained within the Welcome Thread, which you should have read by now. So really, you have no excuse.

You must realize that the answers won't change, no matter how many names you post under.

I would appreciate a reply to this message, and I hope you will commit to using just one account - preferably your original one. If not, you will be banned from further access to the forums.
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« Reply #31 on: March 25, 2007, 12:39:26 PM »
Hi Ann-

My apologies, this has been a very stressful time for me, I'm not sure why this specific instance has me nervous, but it does and I just want to make sure I am ok.

I will continue to use the same name moving forward, and I appreciate all the insight and advice that you, Andy, and Rod have provided thus far.  I am not a bad person, or attempting to be deceiftul, I just want to make sure I am ok, and I still have a long way to go to make it to that 13 week mark.

Thanks again for all you do, I'm very sorry.

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« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2007, 01:12:08 PM »
77,

You will go back to your original account - I know you can still access it. I've disabled your new one and merged your threads. Create a third account and be banned. We take time-wasting like this very seriously.

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« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2007, 06:39:12 PM »
Hello Again-

I'm approaching week 10 and am waiting for the remaining two weeks for my final results, I still am very nervous and am just scared. I have been ill more in the past three months than I have in the past three years, its not nerves its the truth.  Heres my current situation

About 10 weeks ago I had protected receptive anal sex and unprotected receptive oral sex with no ejaculation for either, I'm not sure if the condom broke, however I did use one for at least part of the time and we did use water based lube.

I developed a severe sore throat at about week after the event, eventually went to the doc and had a "slight positive" for strep, at day 40 I went and tested using the oral rapid test, negative.  At about 6.5 weeks developed very achy muscles and fatigue that lasted about a day or so, however had diarreah for about 2-3 more days, with not many other symptoms (individuals noticed I looked very flushed and red in the face). 

At week 8.5 I developed a severe cold, productive cough and congestion, that I am still slowly recovering from.

After all of this, its now been 10 weeks and I am still scared, what can I do to get through this guys?  I know I sound crazy, but I'm very nervous, you thoughts would be very appreciated.

Thanks again

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« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2007, 07:09:12 PM »
Lagoon,

My thoughts? Your 40 day negative isn't going to change.

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« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2007, 08:38:16 PM »
Thanks Ann, I really appreciate you being there.

My question is why do you think this, my symptoms have been very similar to those in ARS, I'm a gay male, I had sex, I'm not sure if the condom broke?

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« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2007, 04:41:56 AM »
Lagoon,

If your symptoms had anything to do with hiv, you would not have had that 40 day negative result. The symptoms of ARS are produced by the production of antibodies, not the virus itself.

I do not expect your 40 day negative to change.

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« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2007, 12:54:28 PM »
Thanks Ann-

That is the first time I have heard that, that antibodies are the cause of ARS?

Also, my later symptoms occuirred after the test, by about 4 or 5 days, would it be possible that I tested just before seroconversion?

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« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2007, 01:13:52 PM »
Lagoon,

It is the process of production of antibodies that can make a person feel ill, not the antibodies themselves.

It's highly unlikely that you only started seroconverting after 40 days. As soon as a person becomes infected, the body starts mounting its defence, which includes antibody production. This is why seroconversion illness normally happens (when it happens in a noticeable way at all) between two and four weeks after infection has taken place. It takes an average of 22 days for enough antibodies to be produced to be detected on standard ELISA tests.

I do not expect your 40 day negative result to change, especially as a condom was used and a broken condom is difficult to not notice.

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« Reply #39 on: April 14, 2007, 09:32:20 PM »
Thanks for all the help!

I greatly appreciate all the work you do, you do not know the difference you make in the lives of those who are undergoing severe anxiety over this.

Just one more quick question, what generation is the Oraquick Rapid Oral Test, is it less reliable or slow are detecting antibodies, and if it is not a 4th generation test is it slower as well?

Thanks!

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« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2007, 04:07:54 PM »
Any info for this one guys?  Your help is appreciated...

I also called the CDC today and they stated that Pre-Semen is just as infectious as Semen, and that they do not classify risks for oral, anal or vaginal sex, do you have any opinions on this?

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« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2007, 05:32:19 PM »
Look, take the time to read the lessons. OraSure does not go by generations as classification. It's a very reliable test.

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« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2007, 08:42:10 PM »
I am absolutely terrified, reading through the symptoms that correspond with HIV and the experiences of those recently infected I fit the bill for new HIV perfectly.

Had protected (maybe) receptive anal sex with no ejculation and receptive oral sex with no ejaculation
Partner says hes tested negative 10 days after eent
About a 7-10 days later develop severe sore throat, test only "slight positive" for strep about three weeks later.  A partner (I've only had about 2 in three years! that is different form the first performs oral sex on me, I did not ejaculate) However he develops sore throat and tiredness about two weeks after us being together, doctor says its strep but never tests.

Tested negative at 40 days with oral swab

At week 6 1/2 develop severe body aches one day, then diarreah for three days after (co-workers have similar symptoms, but not the body aches and fatigue I first felt)

Then at week 8 develop severe cold, very productive cough very similar to Bronchitis, have this for nearly 10 days, just recovering now.

I'm a nervous wreck, I'm scared, confused, and feel alone, I don't know where to turn.  I know this sounds crazy, but it follows the ARS timeline progression perfectly, sick at about two weeks, develop severe cold at 8 weeks...that some many others have.

I'm scared guys, I really am.

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« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2007, 09:07:43 PM »
Look Lagoon,

If your illness at two weeks had anything to do with hiv, you would have tested postive at 40 days.

I do not expect your negative result to change. Symptoms mean nothing. People often get colds and/or flu when the seasons change and guess what, the seasons are changing.

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« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2007, 10:08:10 PM »
yes but my body could be slow at producing anitbodies, the line may not have shown up correctly

Isn't it typical to have Bronchitus symptoms after ARS, as your immune system is weakend and CD4 count is low?

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« Reply #45 on: April 15, 2007, 10:10:55 PM »
Lagoon,

So you've already completely forgotten what I told you about what the actual cause of ARS is.

I don't know what else to say to you, so I'm done responding to your repetitive posts and questions.

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« Reply #46 on: April 15, 2007, 10:21:45 PM »
That is the first time I have heard that, that antibodies are the cause of ARS?
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« Reply #47 on: April 23, 2007, 08:40:11 PM »
I am one week away from my one week test, I have to admit I'm scared as hell....I have never been this sick over three months in my entire life.

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« Reply #48 on: April 23, 2007, 08:48:43 PM »
If you have been sick that long, then it has nothing to do with HIV. See your doctor for your illness.

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« Reply #49 on: April 25, 2007, 07:08:59 PM »
I just want to get past this all, I am so scared...how often are tests accurate at 40 days?

 


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