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Author Topic: A New Silver Solution  (Read 4251 times)

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Offline sunzidog

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A New Silver Solution
« on: February 27, 2007, 02:44:47 PM »
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« Last Edit: February 27, 2007, 10:18:00 PM by sunzidog »
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Re: A New Silver Solution
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2007, 04:01:23 PM »
Colloidal silver?

Holy crap, this was discounted as quackery a decade ago. Not only does it provide ZERO benefits for HIV (or for acne, cancer, bacterial or viral infections as it claims) but overdosing, or even regular dosing over years will turn your skin, hair, teeth and nails a deathly gray color. This side effect is permanent.

http://quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.html


There is little evidence to support therapeutic claims made for colloidal silver products;

The risk to consumers of silver toxicity outweighs the value of trying an unsubstantiated treatment, and bacterial resistance to silver can occur

Efforts should be made to curb the illegal availability of colloidal silver products, which is a significant public health issue [16] .

References

Product brochure. Changes International, 1997. Downloaded in 1998.
Seasilver International Product Information, accessed October 12, 1998.
Fung MC, Bowen DL. Silver products for medical indications: risk-benefit assessment. Journal of Toxicology and Clinical Toxicology 34:119-26, 1996.
Gulbranson SH and others. Argyria following the use of dietary supplements containing colloidal silver protein. Cutis 66:373-374, 2000.
Hori K and others. Believe it or not -- Silver still poisons! Veterinary and Human Toxicology 44(5):291-292, 2002.
Blue Is the color of my candidate's skin. Associated Press, Oct 2, 2002
Cohen LE and others. Effects of Internet quackery: Argyria in the silver state. Federal Practitioner 21(4):9-17, 2004.
Wickless SC, Schwader TA. Medical mystery—The answer. New England Journal of Medicine 352:2349-2350, 2004.
Brandt D. Argyia secondary to ingestion of homemade silver solition. Journal of the American Academy of Dermatology 53:S105-107, 2005.
Wadhera A, Fung M. Systemic argyria associated with ingestion of colloidal silver. Dermatology Online Journal 11(1):12, 2005.
Federal Register 61:53685-53688, 1996. (To access this document, search the 1996 volume for "colloidal silver.")
FDA. Final rule: Over-the-counter drug products containing colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts. Federal Register 64:44653-44658, 1999. Download PDF version
Refunds for buyers of alternative therapy devices. News release, Australian Competition and Consumer Commission, May 5, 2000.
"Operation Cure.All" wages new battle in ongoing war against Internet health fraud. FTC news release, June 14, 2001.
FTC announces first two enforcement actions against purveyors of bioterrorism defense products. FTC news release, Feb 27, 2002.
Regulation of colloidal silver and related products. Therapeutic Goods Administration Web site, Aug 19, 2003.
For Further Information

Rosemary Jacobs, an argyria victim, has made a detailed study of the colloidal silver marketplace and is willing to answer questions.

This is dangerous stuff, and should be avoided like all other cure alls.


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Offline sunzidog

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Re: A New Silver Solution
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2007, 04:41:59 PM »
Thats delightful thanks... keep up the good research.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2007, 10:15:56 PM by sunzidog »
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Re: A New Silver Solution
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2007, 04:59:56 PM »
<< and who discounts it as quakery... drug companies do>>

Uh, no. Its discounted by science. By first tiered, peer reviewed science. The entire CONCEPT of colloidal silver is flawed.

I have noticed a disturbing trend here at aidsmeds, where science is discounted because of perceived pharmeceutical intervention. That sort of conspiracy theoryt is, in my opinion, a form of AIDS dissidence.

But if the notion of a big evil company making money off the sickness of others bugs you, you might want to research the company that makes and sells that colloidal silver solution:

I quote:

The EPA has placed a stop order sale on American BioTech Labs, Alpine, Utah for selling a registered pesticide, ASAP Solution, whose Internet advertising contains unproven claims to kill anthrax, tuberculosis and other public health diseases.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb3386/is_200302/ai_n8132405

There is simply no proof that colloidal silver in ANY concentration is effective in the human body. None. Show me the first-tiered peer reviewed evidence that shows colloidal silver is effective against HIV viral replication. I urge you.

It did not do it in the doses which caused argria. How can a WEAKER solution be more effective? Show me the science, and not from the site that sells the stuff.

But thanks for the heads up. I have reported the company to the appropriater agencies, as they are clearly violating the law with their claims.

Quackery is everywhere. I do not blame you for posting it, or even believing in it. I do, however, feel commpelled to refute it when it threatens the integrity of the forum.


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Offline sunzidog

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Re: A New Silver Solution
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2007, 05:17:29 PM »
Lots of scientists on this website... thanks again.  Great moderator work Ann.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2007, 10:30:25 PM by sunzidog »
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Re: A New Silver Solution
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2007, 07:26:09 PM »
Don't bother, JK, this is clearly spam. It's been reported.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2007, 07:28:25 PM by J220 »
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Re: A New Silver Solution
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2007, 07:35:11 PM »
sunz,

If you want to waste your money on quackery, that's fine by me. However, don't try to foist it off on forum members as something of value.

I'm locking this thread.

Ann
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