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Offline indianboy

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blood kiss with a psyco
« on: February 24, 2007, 05:15:42 AM »
hello
i was drunk yesterday and rougly kissed(tounge and french kiss) a girl who is hiv positive.
I have oral issues..with bleeding gums every morning while brushing
i also tasted blood...
before leaving she asked me to be careful about my health frm now on....dont know where that came from
what should i do now?
I am immensely worried
Please guide me

Offline indianboy

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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2007, 07:10:30 AM »
PLEASE help me

Offline fondeveau

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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2007, 07:23:12 AM »
Whose blood were you tasting?  I suppose if you have open mouth wounds and she has open mouth wounds and you swap blood, there could indeed be a chance of exposure.  As to what to do, if exposure is that recent, its possible that you need PEP?  See doctor now!

Offline indianboy

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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2007, 08:10:03 AM »
OMG
I dont know who's blood i tasted....i am assuming it was her's perhaps who knows.....
who should i see now?
the hiv clinic will only open on monday..i just called helpline
what should i do now?:(
I am doomed
i hate myself
PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!

Offline indianboy

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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2007, 08:16:41 AM »
What are my chances???

Offline fondeveau

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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2007, 08:19:31 AM »
The person to ask is the doctor.  If you can't see your regular physician or a clinic, see the ER physician.  You can also review the transmission lessons on this website.  You aren't doomed either way.  But, if a physician evaluates you and agrees that your chance of exposure due to her blood on your wounded gums, then, perhaps, they can prescribe PEP?  I understand PEP needs to be started quickly. 

Offline fondeveau

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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2007, 08:22:13 AM »
Generally speaking, HIV is fragile and hard to transmit, but I don't want you to forego the advice of a trained medical professional in reliance on what is posted at a website.  Go see the doctor and do it today.  If he prescribes PEP, you will have some reassurance.  If he doesn't believe your risk of exposure was significant to warrant intervention, you will have additional reassurance that a website cannot give you.

Offline indianboy

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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2007, 08:23:59 AM »
thanx for the responce............
I am SCARED
Can anyone please tell me what are my chances?
fondeveau andy, ann
This is urgent
I am confused

Offline fondeveau

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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2007, 08:27:12 AM »
You really need to discuss it with your doctor.  Chances are you will be fine.  But, do you really want to forego a professional medical opinion in reliance on a webpost?

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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2007, 08:33:02 AM »
I have been reading this website scince yesterday..i really value all of your's opinion.
Its diff to find a doc at this time of the hour.................

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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2007, 08:33:53 AM »
Indian, your own saliva contains and HIV-inhibitory element which would protect you.

Kissing has never been documented as a means of transmission, questionable oral health notwithstanding.

Even IF the woman you were kissing is HIV+ I don't see this as a risky situation for HIV transmission.

Please read the lesson about HIV transmission on this site. There's a link to it in the Welcome thread which opens this section. You'll get all the basics to be concerned and NOT concerned about there.

You can consult with your doctor if it will ease your mind. Instituting PEP in this situation would be a total overreaction.

Kissing is NOT a risk for HIV transmission.

And you need to avoid mixing getting into sexual situations with excessive drinking. That's a very dangerous combination.

I don't see this as an HIV situation.

Cheers,
Andy Velez

Offline fondeveau

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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2007, 08:37:49 AM »
Its called the Emergency Room - when you can't find a doctor anywhere else.  Sometimes, its called After Hours Care.  The doctor can evaluate your risk and glean from you information that it would take days for you to post online.  The doctor can examine you physically.  You keep asking what your chances are.  That is a medical assessment of risk that simply can't be made online.  

Offline indianboy

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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2007, 08:39:15 AM »
thanx for your detialed responce..
I will consult a doc tomrrow morning and take his opnion...i read it should be before 72 hours for PEP so i will wait till tomrrow.
I dont ususally drink....a small beer made me high.....:(
what did you mean when you said notwithstanding? does it mean execpt for people with oral issues?

Offline fondeveau

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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2007, 08:43:54 AM »
He's saying that swapping spit aka kissing has not been documented as a transmission risk even where you have bleeding gums.  But, you seem to be saying that you believe you actually you drank her blood.

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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2007, 08:54:34 AM »
Indian, you really couldn't in that situation quantify how much of her supposedly HIV+ blood you ingested. Your saliva, her saliva and perhaps her blood (or yours?). It is extremely unlikely even in rough kissing that significant amounts of blood would have been involved in the situation.

Plus you were by your own description "high," which means your ability to gauge what was going on was even further diminished.

If you don't have access to a doctor then go to a hospital emergency room. I expect they will also tell you that you weren't at risk but maybe you need that additional reassurance to let go of this concern.

And yes, in the great unlikelihood they recommend doing PEP, that should be done in not more than 72 hours for maxium effect.

And again, I don't see this an HIV situation.

 
Andy Velez

Offline indianboy

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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2007, 08:56:38 AM »
i just dont know what i am going to do.:(
i am SCARED:(
i dint swallow blood but yes i tasted it.....
:(
what are my chances?
thanx andy and fond

Offline fondeveau

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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2007, 09:20:25 AM »
No one here can say absolutely nil - at least I wouldn't.  Low? Probably.  Extremely low? Probably. But, its an assessment for a doctor.  Consult your physician.

Offline RapidRod

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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2007, 09:23:30 AM »
I agree with Andy, I don't see this as an HIV concern.

Offline indianboy

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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2007, 11:04:41 AM »
i just cannout gather strength to go to doctor....
is this anxiety or what?
do i really need to test?

Offline indianboy

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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2007, 11:05:29 AM »
andy, rapid?..is testing really warrented?

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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2007, 11:07:01 AM »
As far as I am concerned this incident comes under the heading of a "theoretical" risk rather than an "actual" one.

Theoretically anytime you have any sexual situation with anyone other than your own hand you are at risk. But in the real world of HIV, sexual transmission consistently happens in very specific way, and most specifically during unprotected intercourse.

Since you indicate you don't have access to a doctor,and if this is going to continue to trouble you, then by all means go to an Emergency Clinic and discuss it there.  

Andy Velez

Offline indianboy

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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2007, 11:12:17 AM »
in your opnion andy rapid..do i need to test?

Offline RapidRod

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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2007, 11:18:38 AM »
Have you ever had an HIV test? If not then test. Would I test over your concern, my answer is no.

Offline indianboy

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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2007, 11:23:37 AM »
Thanx rapid
yes i have had tested for hiv when i got my job...and had to go through medical.....
i will consult a doc on monday morning...still before 72 hrs to start PEP if required
please pray for me




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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2007, 11:46:51 AM »
andy?..should i really test?

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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2007, 12:08:39 PM »
Indian,

I'm terribly sorry that another forum member came into this part of the forum and gave you bad advice. The fact is, kissing, no matter what sort of details you want to put on it, is NOT a risk for hiv infection. You don't need to test unless it is part of a routine sexual health care check up.

You don't need to rush off to your local hospital emergency room, you don't need to see your doctor, you don't need PEP. Kissing is NOT a risk for hiv infection.

Ann
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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2007, 12:16:08 PM »
Thanks, Ann. My jaw dropped when I saw the misinformation prsented here.

Kissing is not a risky activity. You will not get HIV from kissing.

I urge everyone, positive OR negative, to read the LESSON about HIv transmission vectors found on this site. I am still aghast that even people WITH HIV have so little knowledge of it's spread.

You DO NOT get HIV through kissing.

You DO NOT need PEP.

You do not need to freak out.

Those are simply scientifically quantifiable facts.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

-Kimberly Page-Shafer, PhD, MPH

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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2007, 12:17:21 PM »
Indianboy,

Can I ask why you are using different usernames while posting to our forums? Thus far, you have also used Indian

Please realize that this kind of activity is disrespectful of other forum members, as well as our moderators. People spend a considerable amount of time helping others in these forums. Using multiple accounts is at the very least annoying, if not deceiving and disrespectful of others. It is also against our Terms of Membership which you agreed to when you became a member. This information is also contained within the Welcome Thread, which you should have read by now. So really, you have no excuse.

You must realize that the answers won't change, no matter how many names you post under.

I would appreciate a reply to this message, and I hope you will commit to using just one account - preferably your original one. If not, you will be banned from further access to the forums.

Ann
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2007, 12:18:41 PM »
You're welcome Jonathan.

I was so shocked by what I read that I responded before I even had a chance to thoroughly check this poster out. Seems we've been here time and time again with him.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2007, 12:20:34 PM »
And we've been over the same questions with him.

Offline indianboy

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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #30 on: February 24, 2007, 12:44:24 PM »
I am at a net cafe......here
my nickname is indianboy
what are you saying?
I just registered yesterday
couldbe that the ISP is the same hence the same IP is mapped?
i dont know

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Re: blood kiss with a psyco
« Reply #31 on: February 24, 2007, 01:00:57 PM »
indian,

Yeah, right, that's why the writing style is identical and you're still worrying about the same things.

You kissed someone. You didn't have a risk. Get over it and move on with your life.

Ann
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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