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To homosexual man, are you a bottom or a top?

bottom
19 (22.6%)
top
13 (15.5%)
versatile
41 (48.8%)
total bottom
8 (9.5%)
total top
3 (3.6%)

Total Members Voted: 83

Voting closed: February 24, 2007, 12:24:15 AM

Author Topic: Bottom or Top?  (Read 33166 times)

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Offline Londonguy

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #150 on: February 22, 2007, 03:27:14 PM »
I started off as a top and eventually worked myself down to about 80% bottom.  More pleasurable for me, and I get off on the feeling of being dominated  ;)

Offline aupointillimite

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #151 on: February 22, 2007, 03:29:55 PM »
I started off as a top and eventually worked myself down to about 80% bottom.  More pleasurable for me, and I get off on the feeling of being dominated  ;)

Me too.

Let's write a book together.  :D
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Offline GSOgymrat

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #152 on: February 22, 2007, 03:58:15 PM »
I pride myself on being versatile. That said, I'm a much better top than bottom. While I know everyone has their preferences I could never see myself with anyone long-term who was not versatile unless they had some medical problem. Everyone has limits but guys who have narrow interests in bed are tiresome. It's like being with someone who wants to eat pizza every night. Also, I know some guys find servicing men who won't reciprocate thrilling but that just pisses me off.

Offline redhotmuslbear

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #153 on: February 22, 2007, 05:56:22 PM »
I started off as a top and eventually worked myself down to about 80% bottom.  More pleasurable for me, and I get off on the feeling of being dominated  ;)

Dammit!  There you go, making me more horny than usual... again!  I prefer getting off as a "service top," totally in control and dom but dedicated to the bottom's pleasure.  ....screw CSI, let's produce the first porno spawned on via pox.com and aidsmeds.com!

As for half-hour quickie.... yeah, that's about right for me!  I'm not ograsmically challenged, but I like a slow intimate fuck, even with a one-time lay.  Build up the energy and connection for a great release.  WOOF!

..... oh, good, my partner is home!  He likes coming home to a randy bear who wants it NOW!
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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #154 on: February 22, 2007, 05:56:48 PM »
. Also, I know some guys find servicing men who won't reciprocate thrilling but that just pisses me off.
Doesn't it though.  I find myself more and more saying "gee, that was unexciting".  Unless I take control I usually don't have that much fun. 
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Offline aupointillimite

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #155 on: February 22, 2007, 06:21:24 PM »
Also, I know some guys find servicing men who won't reciprocate thrilling but that just pisses me off.

I'm one of those who finds it thrilling.   ::)
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Offline ACinKC

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #156 on: February 22, 2007, 06:31:19 PM »
I'm one of those who finds it thrilling.   ::)

Ditto.  Use me.  That was my policy.
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Offline aupointillimite

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #157 on: February 22, 2007, 06:33:29 PM »
Ditto.  Use me.  That was my policy.

I love those people who are like, "Why do you do that?  That's so degrading."

Congratulations, you've stumbled into the perimeter of wisdom!
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Offline redhotmuslbear

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #158 on: February 22, 2007, 06:46:26 PM »
I love those people who are like, "Why do you do that?  That's so degrading."
Congratulations, you've stumbled into the perimeter of wisdom!

They just have no understanding of power dynamics and the concept that consented sex, however you choose to define it, doesn't have to be quid pro quo

Sure, I like to get a bottom off.  However, there are plenty of times when I just want to use one like the one-dimensional object he desires to be  :o
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Offline aupointillimite

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #159 on: February 22, 2007, 06:48:05 PM »
They just have no understanding of power dynamics and the concept that consented sex, however you choose to define it, doesn't have to be quid pro quo

Sure, I like to get a bottom off.  However, there are plenty of times when I just want to use one like the one-dimensional object he desires to be  :o

Exactly... and it's not like I want that all the time... I'm just saying that everyone now and then, it's hot to be the one-dimensional hole thing.

I quote Billy Chenowith from Six Feet Under, "There's always a fucked up power dynamic in sex."
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Offline antibody

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #160 on: February 22, 2007, 07:07:07 PM »
pretty sure i picked up hiv by taking it up the pooper  :o
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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #161 on: February 22, 2007, 08:07:45 PM »
I'm one of those who finds it thrilling.   ::)

I'll take you to Ft. Washington park when we go to NYC.
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Offline aupointillimite

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #162 on: February 22, 2007, 08:08:48 PM »
I'll take you to Ft. Washington park when we go to NYC.

Whoo hoo!
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Offline Londonguy

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #163 on: February 22, 2007, 08:18:08 PM »
However, there are plenty of times when I just want to use one like the one-dimensional object he desires to be  :o

 :-*  ;D

I'm sure a psychologist would have a field day with me and my desire to be used

Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #164 on: February 22, 2007, 08:19:34 PM »
Whoo hoo!

Hope you like them dark, thick and uncut!
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Offline aupointillimite

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #165 on: February 22, 2007, 08:20:10 PM »
I'm sure a psychologist would have a field day with me and my desire to be used

He'd have a field day... on your ass!   :D

Ha ha ha ha ha!

Somebody stop me... no really...

I need professional help.  Oh yes.
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Offline aupointillimite

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #166 on: February 22, 2007, 08:20:28 PM »
Hope you like them dark, thick and uncut!

I'm slutty.

So yes.
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Offline ACinKC

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #167 on: February 22, 2007, 08:20:58 PM »
They just have no understanding of power dynamics and the concept that consented sex, however you choose to define it, doesn't have to be quid pro quo

Sure, I like to get a bottom off.  However, there are plenty of times when I just want to use one like the one-dimensional object he desires to be  :o

AMEN!  I used to LOVE that.  Not all the time as the pointed one says.
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Offline aupointillimite

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #168 on: February 22, 2007, 09:38:18 PM »
AMEN!  I used to LOVE that.  Not all the time as the pointed one says.

Ooooh!  You should call me Mr. Pointy!

It's a Buffy reference...
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Offline jyngfilm

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #169 on: February 22, 2007, 09:45:20 PM »
jeez, i feel like i'm reading someones diary>>  just help me to the next page
 i feed one's obsession, does that make me a top or a bottom?
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Offline Maestro

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #170 on: February 22, 2007, 09:48:41 PM »
I'm sure I will get shit for this, but doesn't this topic belong in the Off-Topic or something?  People get all bent out of shape when someone says HIV is a gay disease and then a first timer might come to this board looking for info in the Living With HIV topic and see this topic with over 170 replies easily the most commented on in a while.  What's the word I'm looking for?  Hypocrite?  Nah...

Just my 2 cents...

M

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #171 on: February 22, 2007, 09:54:56 PM »
Glad I'm not bottoming tonight.  I've been in the bathroom four times in the last hour with some filthy constipation.  I feel like I just gave birth to two sets of twins.
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Offline puertorico2006

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #172 on: February 22, 2007, 10:28:58 PM »
Top or bottom for me depends on the celestial placement of the planets, time of year, temperature, and my mood i guess. Lately ive been a top (cant relax enough to bottom the past few months)....but i used to be way more bottom than top....i change preferences every few years/months....must be that damn bipolar disorder hehehe

I like fucking muscular bottoms though its fun ;-)
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Offline aztecan

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #173 on: February 22, 2007, 11:35:06 PM »
Hey M,

Actually, no, this thread is right where it belongs. As Tim (Moffie) pointed out earlier on, this also is a part of living with HIV.

No, its not a gay disease, but a lot of gay men have it.

Living with HIV is more than just discussing meds, lipids, OIs and doctor visits. It also involves realizing that HIV has not destroyed our abilities to be sexual beings.

That is very important, especially since the likelihood is many people will be living with this bug for 20 or 30 years.

It would be wrong to avoid discussing gay sex, or any sex, just because it wasn't PC or because some new person might come along and read it.

This type of thread shows we are indeed living with this bug, not just existing. We are human beings with the same needs, desires and kinks as we had before we caught the bug.

So, that's my dissertation from the soapbox for tonight.   ::)

Sorry I was so long-winded.

HUGS,

Mark
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Offline jkinatl2

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #174 on: February 22, 2007, 11:41:51 PM »
I don't want to harsh the buzz, but I do have a question.

Um, as someone who has diarrhea several times a day, and has enjoyed that condition for upwards of a year, I have to ask how people manage anal sex with advanced HIV or under the grip of HAART. I've had to basically take the booty factory off the menu, which leaves me with an oral-only experience. Now exactly the least fulfilling thing, but also, well, not the most.

What do you guys do to overcome the HIV related obstacles like anal fissures, hemmorrhoids, and diarrhea? I mean, it really really hurts down there whenever I try. Last time I managed, I bled for weeks after.

Jonathan
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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #175 on: February 22, 2007, 11:55:49 PM »
I'm sure I will get shit for this, but doesn't this topic belong in the Off-Topic or something?  People get all bent out of shape when someone says HIV is a gay disease and then a first timer might come to this board looking for info in the Living With HIV topic and see this topic with over 170 replies easily the most commented on in a while.  What's the word I'm looking for?  Hypocrite?  Nah...

Just my 2 cents...

M


If I worried about the opinions of those who haven't met me as much as you seem to, M, I'd have no time left for myself.

I am by no means a psychopath, but the opinions of those unburdened by my acquaintance hasn't concerned me in years.

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #176 on: February 22, 2007, 11:58:11 PM »
Not to step over your post, Jonathan...sorry. I have nothing to suggest beyond immodium and thorough douching.

Although chocolate is an excellent binder, too.

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Offline aztecan

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #177 on: February 23, 2007, 12:06:17 AM »
Jonathan,

You bring up a good point. Back before I was diagnosed as a celiac, I pretty much lived with constant diarrhea for many years.

It would lessen or worsen depending on what I had been eating, although I didn't know that for a long time.

I basically stopped eating when I wanted to get laid, or i ate very little. It usually worked, but not always, so there were many nights I went home alone for lack of the ability to stop the hersheys.

I don't have any answers, but I can comisserate.

HUGS,

Mark
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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #178 on: February 23, 2007, 12:12:37 AM »
I just get so frustrated, Brent. The spirit is willing, but the body... well, has rally started to let me down.

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #179 on: February 23, 2007, 05:10:03 AM »
i am sorry, maybe try to skip couple of meals before you gonna get laid? have you tried eating yogurt or keifer?
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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #180 on: February 23, 2007, 08:11:16 AM »
are you taking any of that tincture of opium for your diarrhea?  (please note:  I have to spell check diarrhea EVERY TIME I WRITE IT.  I don't know why I can't remember it.  I am lame.)
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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #181 on: February 23, 2007, 10:05:57 AM »
Cheese serves as an excellent binder for me.  Also, fiber supplements are supposed to help with regularity.  Another suggestion, though it may or may not be suitable, is do it in the shower, with the water running.  I've had many pleasurable anal experiences in a shower both as a top and as a bottom.  The warm water is nice, and the fact that it washes away any evidence is also a major plus.  On the other hand, I have swam in the muddy river before.  As long as there's good ventilation, I just don't look at it and clean up afterwards.  Afterall, my two thoughts on it are this: 1) play in mud and you'll get dirty and 2) shit happens. 

I've had one very embarrassing experience kind of related to the shits during sex.  While a friend was doing a bit of ass munching, I evidently relaxed a bit too much and out came the gas!   I was so appalled and embarrassed and did that nervous laugh thing, which caused more gas to follow.  Luckily, it didn't have much of an odor.  The fellow was a trooper and came up for air and went back to work.  I can't think of too many times I've felt as embarrassed as I did at that moment.  Too much information, probably, but the Adderall makes me really chatty!   ;)

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Offline aztecan

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #182 on: February 23, 2007, 10:37:09 AM »
Now that I'm off the gluten, I do pretty well.

Cheese is definitely a binder.  :o

Another thing that seems to help is rice.

Oh, David, I laughed so hard picturing you in your "embarrassing situation" I nearly had an accident.
 ;D ;D ;D ;D

HUGS,

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #183 on: February 23, 2007, 10:49:08 AM »
I used to have a boyfriend who, when drunk, actually LIKED it dirty back there, and sweaty from dancing.  He'd go crazy eating out filthy ass... and I know that's bad for hepatitis so spare me the lecture.  This was over a decade ago.

The funny thing is that the next day when he was sober he'd lecture me on having a filthy ass.  I just replied that I always insisted on a quick shower and he'd say "No! I like it dirty!"

Silly Dominican boy!
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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #184 on: February 23, 2007, 11:13:32 AM »
Glad I'm not bottoming tonight.  I've been in the bathroom four times in the last hour with some filthy constipation.  I feel like I just gave birth to two sets of twins.

Well if it was the Olsen twins it couldnt have been that bad!
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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #185 on: February 23, 2007, 11:15:39 AM »
.  I am lame.)

Not JUST because you cant spell.

Just sayin...
LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming--WOW! WHAT A
RIDE!!!

Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Bottom or Top?
« Reply #186 on: February 23, 2007, 11:34:48 AM »
Not JUST because you cant spell.

Just sayin...

My spelling is atrocious, but what's wrong with what you just quoted?
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« Reply #187 on: February 23, 2007, 11:42:53 AM »
I shall elaborate on my humor.

You said.
(please note:  I have to spell check diarrhea EVERY TIME I WRITE IT.  I don't know why I can't remember it. I am lame.)

I said.
Not JUST because you cant spell.

What I was inferring was, you are LAME for MANY more reasons than the fact you can't remember how to spell diarrhea.  Jokes not funny now.  Thanks

AC
(Who shares the same spelling affliction of the word diarrehea as you do so i type squirts, or hershey squirts to get the message out.)

(Who feels remarkably unfunny right now.)

(and who suddenly feels like he is copying Matty and Bucko with this whole parenthetical "Who" game, but was sure he did it before they came back)


Edited to put the "n" in Parenthetical.
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« Reply #188 on: February 23, 2007, 11:46:11 AM »
Humor is decidedly different in those fly over areas I've heard so much about.
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« Reply #189 on: February 23, 2007, 01:36:10 PM »
If you would have seen me in my heyday....you would have landed.
LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming--WOW! WHAT A
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« Reply #190 on: February 23, 2007, 01:41:06 PM »
Thanks guys. I have tried all the food-related binders, to no avail. And to be fair, after so long, well, I'd probably benefit from having a professional look uup there, make sure there aren't any surgical candidates in the booty.

I am intrigued by the tincture of opium. I'd feel very 18th century using that. Which is kinda cool.

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« Reply #191 on: February 23, 2007, 01:45:27 PM »
jkinatl2:  the moderator of my small support group uses it and he SWEARS by it.  He was plagued by PI-related diarrhea for years too.  I can't believe they haven't offered it to you.

Also look into Pancrecarb -- I used it in addition to immodium and it aids in absorption, hence assisting your HAART crap.  Also is supposed to address flatulence and bloating.  Not sure if it does that but whatever.  My state ADAP pays for it too.

Just out of curiosity, what HAVE your doctors offered you for any relief.
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« Reply #192 on: February 23, 2007, 02:18:36 PM »
Thanks guys. I have tried all the food-related binders, to no avail. And to be fair, after so long, well, I'd probably benefit from having a professional look uup there, make sure there aren't any surgical candidates in the booty.

I am intrigued by the tincture of opium. I'd feel very 18th century using that. Which is kinda cool.
some other binding foods: peanut butter and oatmeal (old fashioned; not instant). Try to introduce these into your daily diet; give it a while........a week or two. Calcium tablets help too. You'd want to get the oyster shell derivative since it will not be completely absorbed by stomach walls and will make it's way into intestinal track where it will aid by absorbing fluids. Hope suggestions throughout these recent postings helps you.


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« Reply #193 on: February 23, 2007, 02:22:10 PM »
hey johnathan,, whats your diet like?

what do you eat? i know some about diet and nutrition, so maybe i can give you some sort of advice. however, i do realize that your problem is caused by the meds or hiv related.
Reyataz / Norvir / Truvada/ Androgel 5 g / 2 days
1/29/07 14 T, 300 k V, 1.8 %
2/22/07 197 T, 247 V, 6.8 %
3/27/07 164 T, <50 V, 5.4 %
5/28/07 177 T, <50 V, 8.2 %
7/28/07 214 T, <50 V, 9.6 %
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« Reply #194 on: February 23, 2007, 02:41:44 PM »
If his problem is as bad as it seems he needs medicine, not nutritional advice.  I'm not knocking it, just speaking from experience.  Tincture of opium works for a reason -- think about it.  Opiates slow down your metabolism and make you constipated.  At most it will lesson his EXTREME diarrhea.  Unless you've had chronic explosive diarrhea you do NOT know what you are talking about.  It's just a different game, and a really REALLY bad one.  You don't leave your house, in fact you don't even l like being 5 ft. from the toilet.  You get NO warning when you have to go -- and then it's like urinating from your sphincter.  It's absolutely the most wretched thing in the world.
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« Reply #195 on: February 23, 2007, 09:28:48 PM »
Hey M,

Actually, no, this thread is right where it belongs. As Tim (Moffie) pointed out earlier on, this also is a part of living with HIV.

No, its not a gay disease, but a lot of gay men have it.

Living with HIV is more than just discussing meds, lipids, OIs and doctor visits. It also involves realizing that HIV has not destroyed our abilities to be sexual beings.

That is very important, especially since the likelihood is many people will be living with this bug for 20 or 30 years.

It would be wrong to avoid discussing gay sex, or any sex, just because it wasn't PC or because some new person might come along and read it.

This type of thread shows we are indeed living with this bug, not just existing. We are human beings with the same needs, desires and kinks as we had before we caught the bug.

So, that's my dissertation from the soapbox for tonight.   ::)

Sorry I was so long-winded.

HUGS,

Mark


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« Reply #196 on: February 23, 2007, 10:10:17 PM »
I decided overnight to officially become a top.   Any bottoms may submit an application in triplicate.  Coupons are available on my web site.  Leather is an extra surcharge.
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« Reply #197 on: February 23, 2007, 10:11:36 PM »
I decided overnight to officially become a top.   Any bottoms may submit an application in triplicate.  Coupons are available on my web site.  Leather is an extra surcharge.

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« Reply #198 on: February 23, 2007, 11:04:23 PM »
My diet varies. Sometimes, I have salads and fresh veggies and lean meats. Other times, I have Cup O Ramen for days on end. It's really a financial thing, combined with how often my friends come over and bring dinner. I don't eat a lot of fats or sweets.

Nothing I notice has any impact on the diarrhea. If I take Immmodium, I run the risk of crippling constipation, which, if I wait it out long enough, is then followed by a new round of diarrhea. I try metamucil and other fibre therapies, bananas, rice, whatever. Surely there is an option that does not create an equal and opposite problem?

Its annoying beyond anything. It's not life or death. But its had a real impact on my sex life. Again, sorry for harshing collective buzz. I just wish I could enjoy that part of an adult's sexual experience again. Imiss it something awful.

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« Reply #199 on: February 23, 2007, 11:11:05 PM »
If his problem is as bad as it seems he needs medicine, not nutritional advice.  I'm not knocking it, just speaking from experience.  Tincture of opium works for a reason -- think about it.  Opiates slow down your metabolism and make you constipated.  At most it will lesson his EXTREME diarrhea.  Unless you've had chronic explosive diarrhea you do NOT know what you are talking about.  It's just a different game, and a really REALLY bad one.  You don't leave your house, in fact you don't even l like being 5 ft. from the toilet.  You get NO warning when you have to go -- and then it's like urinating from your sphincter.  It's absolutely the most wretched thing in the world.

sorry, didn't kinow it was that bad...
Reyataz / Norvir / Truvada/ Androgel 5 g / 2 days
1/29/07 14 T, 300 k V, 1.8 %
2/22/07 197 T, 247 V, 6.8 %
3/27/07 164 T, <50 V, 5.4 %
5/28/07 177 T, <50 V, 8.2 %
7/28/07 214 T, <50 V, 9.6 %
10/3/07 380 T, <50 V, 10 % no more Mepron, Famvir

 


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