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Author Topic: HIV vs. AIDS  (Read 6811 times)

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Offline koi1

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Re: HIV vs. AIDS
« Reply #50 on: February 22, 2007, 09:03:26 PM »
I think that the reason that the AIDS diagnosis is not fluid, is because once you get AIDS by that definition, you will most likely die without HAART. And once you start HAART you will need it to keep the virus at bay. It is a sad fact with this disease. I have been slowly climbing out of the casket, but I know that the lid can slam on me indefinitely. AIDS does not mean death for everyone. What it does mean is vigilance and lifestyle changes if we want to live.

rob
diagnosed on 11/20/06 viral load 23,000  cd4 97    8%
01/04/07 six weeks after diagnosis vl 53,000 cd4 cd4 70    6%
Began sustiva truvada 01/04/07
newest labs  drawn on 01/15/07  vl 1,100    cd4 119    7%
Drawn 02/10/07
cd4=160 viral load= 131 percentage= 8%
New labs 3/10/07 (two months on sustiva truvada
cd4 count 292  percentage 14 viral load undetectable

Offline Maestro

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Re: HIV vs. AIDS
« Reply #51 on: February 22, 2007, 09:52:49 PM »
I think that the reason that the AIDS diagnosis is not fluid, is because once you get AIDS by that definition, you will most likely die without HAART. And once you start HAART you will need it to keep the virus at bay. It is a sad fact with this disease. I have been slowly climbing out of the casket, but I know that the lid can slam on me indefinitely. AIDS does not mean death for everyone. What it does mean is vigilance and lifestyle changes if we want to live.

rob

Rob,

I think you hit the nail on the head.  Once my uncle progressed to AIDS, he would have been dead without HAART.  Now he needs it to stay healthy (which in his case is a relative term anyways).  My sister was actually shocked at how he is on his own living in California.  I said to her, Look, if he called tomorrow and said he was deathly ill, we would probably say something like "That Figures.  It was just a matter of time".  So the AIDS label, in his case, somehow fits.

Steve

Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: HIV vs. AIDS
« Reply #52 on: February 22, 2007, 09:53:57 PM »
My name is philly267, and I have had AIDS.
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Offline AlanBama

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Re: HIV vs. AIDS
« Reply #53 on: February 22, 2007, 10:47:58 PM »

Use your gifts for good or evil as you see fit, but use them when the chance approaches. Immediate mortality is a wonderful focussing tool when used properly. You'll learn...

In the meantime, and within your own reflexive self-awareness, you are exactly whom you were a week ago. If a newly found label fosters empowerment, why argue? But if that same new-found label causes you to self-victimize, beware. There's no strength in that, now is there?


Brent, Brent, Brent.....I am SO GLAD you're back!

David, this thread made me reflect back to my own AIDS diagnosis...at the time, I remember feeling (strange as it may seem) relief.  At that time, you didn't have AIDS until you had the O.I....mine was MAC of the liver.  I remember being terrified, but strangely relieved....a memory I have managed to forget about for quite some time until today.
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Offline Elizabeth

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Re: HIV vs. AIDS
« Reply #54 on: February 22, 2007, 11:05:01 PM »
I think that the reason that the AIDS diagnosis is not fluid, is because once you get AIDS by that definition, you will most likely die without HAART.

Naaah.  The answer is much more mundane.  Paperwork.

Every time one of us shifts from HIV+ to AIDS it's reported to the CDC as part of their data for their survellience reporting.  Disability can be based on this.   Funding can be based on this.  Etc. Etc.

Now.  Imagine if you will, if everytime someone went from AIDS to HIV back to AIDS, back to HIV it was reported.  Everything based on the figures would have to change.  Back and Forth.  Back and Forth.  That's about 900,000 people to keep track of.

That's a paperwork nightmare.   
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Offline Mike89406

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Re: HIV vs. AIDS
« Reply #55 on: February 23, 2007, 02:10:37 AM »
Heres an Interesting short cut and dry explanation of the defintion maybe not gospel but easy to understand

http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/Labs/Current/Q182090.html

Now I understand some people may benefit from keeping the AIDS status and rightfully so.

Offline David_CA

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Re: HIV vs. AIDS
« Reply #56 on: February 23, 2007, 10:57:20 AM »
Here's an Interesting short cut and dry explanation of the defintion maybe not gospel but easy to understand

http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/Labs/Current/Q182090.html

Now I understand some people may benefit from keeping the AIDS status and rightfully so.

It makes sense to me, but from what I can tell, this isn't how the CDC looks at it.  I still don't know if I have AIDS or not.  Some list 'recurrung OI's'.  I had PCP once and my t-cells never dropped below 200 and my % was never very low, so who the hell knows?  I'll ask my Dr. next month when I have an appt.  I'm sure he'll know what was reported to the Dept. of Health.

David
Black Friday 03-03-2006
03-23-06 CD4 359 @27.4% VL 75,938
06-01-06 CD4 462 @24.3% VL > 100,000
08-15-06 CD4 388 @22.8% VL >  "
10-21-06 CD4 285 @21.9% VL >  "
  Atripla started 12-01-2006
01-08-07 CD4 429 @26.8% VL 1872!
05-08-07 CD4 478 @28.1% VL 740
08-03-07 CD4 509 @31.8% VL 370
11-06-07 CD4 570 @30.0% VL 140
02-21-08 CD4 648 @32.4% VL 600
05-19-08 CD4 695 @33.1% VL < 48 undetectable!
08-21-08 CD4 725 @34.5%
11-11-08 CD4 672 @39.5%
02-11-09 CD4 773 @36.8%
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11-19-09 CD4 944 @33.7%
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01-10-11 CD4 908 @36.3%
05-23-11 CD4 846 @36.8% VL 80
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