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Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« on: February 16, 2007, 08:45:35 AM »
Firstly, I am sorry for my band Enlish, I am a student only..And I know this web-site from a friend.

And I would be very grateful for those who are ready to help!

LAstweek, My friends and I had a party, one of the friend of mine stayed overnight in my room( we shared a house without separate rooms). In the morning, as usual, I took a bath and shaved, my face had some wound because of the bike-crash the night before, and I always made some blood when shaving. BUt as I finished, my roomate said that the friend of my roomate had used my shave...

I understand that sharing shave is not good. and this can transmit HIV, but I have just one detail, the time I was in the bath room was 03--05 minutes, and during that time, no one used my shave. SO, if that man used my tool and some blood left on my blade, HIV would be outside the body for 03 minutes.Then I used that blade to shave my self!SO, I can call my scenario is that : HIV outside the body, stuck on the surface of the blade(03 minutes), then contacted to my bleeding-wound...

So, Does my story put me at a risk for HIV infection? PLS help me!

« Last Edit: February 16, 2007, 08:48:19 AM by fear »

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Re: Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2007, 08:54:34 AM »
What you are worrying about is something that is risky only in theory. In the real world of HIV science HIV infection doesn't happen in the way you are worrying about.

HIV is a fragile virus and not easily transmitted. Common activities such as you have described or for instance getting nicked while getting a haircut are not risks for HIV. Your wound from the accident the night before would already have been closed even if it didn't appear so to you.

To be even a possible risk you would have to have fresh HIV+ blood pouring into an open wound. That is hardly the circumstance you have described.

Put your energy to a better purpose and read the lesson about Transmission on this site. You'll find a link to it in the Welcome thread which opens this section. You'll get all the basics there about the subject.

You have no cause for concern about HIV this time. Just in general sharing razors and toothbrushes is not a good idea for general health purposes, so find a way to keep your utensils separately.


This is NOT an HIV situation. Period.

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Re: Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2007, 08:57:40 AM »
No risk. I've never seen a guy pick up a razor without rinsing it. Nor have I ever seen a person put a razor down when finished without rinsing it. You don't even know for a fact that your room mate is HIV positive and "what ifs" are certainly not going to help.

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Re: Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2007, 09:02:02 AM »
Dear Andy Velez,

Thanks for your prompt reply. I am very grateful to your kindness!

The wound from the accident was quite open, because I made it bleeding as I was shaving.(It is closed but I made it open because I shaved right on that wound)...

I understand that you mention the weakness of HIV, you mean that if it was once outside the body, it will be of no danger to me, right?

All the best,


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Re: Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2007, 09:08:23 AM »
Dear RApid,

I understand!Thanks a lot for your reply..But that man maybe rinsed my shave, but I did not rinse mt shave. always use the blade for one week without rinsing it at all!:-(


Does HIV live on that blade for 03 minutes?

Help me!

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Re: Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2007, 09:11:53 AM »
What I can tell you is that in my twenty years of working in the epidemic I have never known a single case of transmission to occur through the sharing of a razor. And as you can imagine nicks and cuts are very common while shaving.

So no, I don't consider this to have been a risky incident. Even IF the other guy who used the razor is HIV+ and you don't even know that to be so. 
Andy Velez

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Re: Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2007, 09:23:30 AM »
Thanks alot!

I feel a bit relieved!

And what are the opinions from others?


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Re: Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2007, 11:03:28 AM »
fear,

You didn't have a risk for all the reasons stated above by others. I totally agree with them.

Ann
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Re: Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2007, 11:49:47 PM »
Dear Experts,

Thanks for all your very helpful opinions! They are appreaciated!!!!

I have read the Transmission Lesson and old topis for days, I admire everyone here who are willing to help, by their knowledgement of HIV!

You stated me that I have no risk of HIV infection, because I had indirect contact to the infected blood?I mean that HIV was once outside the body and it was dead and inactive?

But what is the difference between sharing syringe and sharing razor? in the two scenarios, HIV is once outside the body and contact to the blood-stream...

Thanks alot,


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Re: Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2007, 04:49:42 AM »
Blood in a syringe is encapsulated.

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Re: Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2007, 07:33:49 AM »
fear,

When people share needles to inject drugs, they are putting potentially infected blood directly into their blood stream. You cannot even begin to compare the two situations.

When a drug user has a hit, they draw some of their blood up into the syringe before they inject, to ensure they have a vein. Some of this blood stays within the barrel of the syringe and is then injected into the next user.

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Please help me! Kissing with sores in my mouth!
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2007, 07:28:37 AM »
Please help me! Kissing with sores in my mouth!

Dear the Team,

First, I would like to say thank-you to all staff of this forum!

Three days ago, my friends and I went to the strip bar, the girl offered me to do oral sex and vaginal sex, but I refused, I do not like to do at all! But she kept rubbing her breast against my face, put me hand on her vaginal doors. Then I was turned on. But my fingers were not deep into her vagina. So this could be impossible for HIV infection, Am I right?

The most stupid thing was that I kissed her and we kissed a bit deep! If I did not see some of my decayed teeths as I got home, I was not scared. So, I am worried sick that my decayed teeths( with possible blooding from these teehths) could be a gate for HIV from her mouth to enter my body! Assuming that she is poz and there were some wounds in her mouth!

Experts, could you give your sage answer to my scenario? If kissing is not a risk of HIV infection, but kissing with some decayed teeths is a risk? Can saliva in our mouth kill of HIV before it can enter my body?Or It needs time?

I have learn from school and the welcome-thread in this forum, but I am still unsure about the real transmission of HIV, because I am very scared!

Thanks a lot, Experts,

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Re: Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2007, 07:38:49 AM »
Help me ! EXPERTS!

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Re: Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2007, 07:47:36 AM »
Fear,

There is no risk of contracting HIV from fingering a woman nor from kissing her even if you have bad teeth. You say you've read the Welcome Thread. It might help if you read it again.

MtD

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Re: Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2007, 07:53:44 AM »
Fear,

NOTHING you bring to us was a risk for hiv infection. Seriously. You already know that fingering is not a risk. You should know by now that kissing is also not a risk, I don't care how decayed your teeth are.

Kissing, no matter what details you want to add, is NOT a risk for hiv infection. Never has been, never will be.

Ann
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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2007, 07:56:38 AM »
Thanks MATTY,

I have spent this Saturday to search on the forum and internet. Some sites say it couldbe a risk of both have open sore-bleeding gums, some says it is theorical only!

What is the second opinion?

I have read some where that there is only an infection from kissing so far( lesbian)....??Is that true?

I need your help!

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Re: Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2007, 08:01:20 AM »
Fear,

Can I ask why you are using different usernames while posting to our forums? Thus far, you have also used queenmail123

You have also applied today for another account here. This application has been rejected. I know all three accounts belong to you because you have logged into them all within minutes of each other today, all from the same computer.

Please realize that this kind of activity is disrespectful of other forum members, as well as our moderators. People spend a considerable amount of time helping others in these forums. Using multiple accounts is at the very least annoying, if not deceiving and disrespectful of others. It is also against our Terms of Membership which you agreed to when you became a member. This information is also contained within the Welcome Thread, which you should have read by now. So really, you have no excuse.

You must realize that the answers won't change, no matter how many names you post under.

I would appreciate a reply to this message, and I hope you will commit to using just one account - preferably your original one. If not, you will be banned from further access to the forums.

Ann

edited to fix broken link
« Last Edit: June 09, 2007, 08:05:39 AM by Ann »
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2007, 08:14:40 AM »
Dear ANN,

No! QUEENMAIL is my class mate, we share one computer in the lab! She is just here and log out, so you are mistaken me with her!

I have triedto sign in but I failed because I forgetmy password. Then I tried to create another acconunt!But finally I am OK!

QUEENMAIL is the one who introduces me this forum!

Do not delete my account!

back to my scenario! AM I safe from kissing even with my decayed teeth? And I do not care the mouth of the girl !If she had bleeding gum then her salive will kill off HIV in her mouth !

Thanks ANN,



« Last Edit: June 09, 2007, 08:19:14 AM by fear »

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Re: Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2007, 08:21:26 AM »
Fear,

I'll give you the benefit of doubt where the queenmail account is concerned, but that doesn't change the fact that you attempted to create another account today. Don't do it again and you'll be ok to remain a member here. Please respect our posting guidelines found in the Welcome Thread. Thank you for your cooperation.

Once again, neither kissing nor fingering are risks for hiv infection.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2007, 08:36:57 AM »
Thanks ANN,

Because there was a long time I have not signed in so I forgetmy password,then Queenmail is my friend, she and I went to the lab and entered this forum,so, you misunderstand me!

I think that kissing is a social contact, I have seen for many times on the TV that stars kissing and kissing, inthe street, people kissing when seeing each other! I think HIV can not trasnmit this way!

But as I recall, I am still scared!

Thanks ANN and MATTY!

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Re: Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2007, 03:57:30 AM »
Dear Experts,

I am sorry for keeping being a trouble maker ih this forum, but I need your help!

Even I tried to make my self easier but I am worried. Because three dats ago, I was playing wrestle with a stranger guy  in the school, my skin was scratch, I did not know whether I was bleeding or not! BUt as I got home and was taking shower, I realised  that my wound was bleeding!!!

I am afraid that the one who was playing with me was bleeding like me, and assuming that he is poz, so does this scenario put me at a risk? DOes HIV transmiss via playing sport in which bleeding involved?( boxing, soccer), so, IS  wound-to-wound contact still considered as a risk of HIV infection?

I need your help, EXPERTS.

Fear,



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Re: Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2007, 05:29:26 AM »
Fear,

NO! You should know this by now. Casual contact - and wresting is casual contact - is NOT a risk for hiv transmission.

There has never, ever been a case of hiv transmission happening during any sport activity. Not even boxing.

I'll tell you this one more time. Hiv is transmitted during uprotected anal or vaginal intercourse or sharing drug injecting equipment with someone who is hiv positive.

Unless this guy had anal sex with you during your wrestling, without a condom, then you were NOT at risk for hiv infection.

I suggest you seek the assistance of a mental health care professional for your extreme hiv anxiety. We cannot help you with that here.

Ann


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Re: Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2007, 01:01:28 AM »
Dear ANN,

Thanks for your reply! You are great, so great!
Of course, I have no sexual relation with anyone, I am sick of being worried over HIV...

But day-by-day contact, there are many incidents which causes alot of anxiety. For example, one could involve in the transport accident and there are possible fresh-wound-to-wound contact...
SO...
IS  wound-to-wound contact still considered as a risk of HIV infection?

I am sorry for keeping asking you silly questions...

All the best,


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Re: Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2007, 06:17:03 AM »
NO is not considered a high risk. Read the lessons on transmission. The link can be found in the "Welcome" thread.

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Re: Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2007, 11:44:00 PM »
Thanks ANN and RAPID ROD,

Maybe you did not understand what  wresting is in my country? when playing wresting, the two players  are  ...full naked, we have only something look likes underwear on! this is called " traditional wresting" in my country....

SO, if that guy was bleeding, i remember that we were ..fighting very hard, and I had some wound, so I have any RISK? wound-to-wound contact....

DOes my scenario look like body-massge?

Thanks alot, EXPERTS,


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Re: Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2007, 12:11:29 AM »
Fear,

I can assure you that we are very familiar with wrestling in all it's forms. There is no risk of contracting HIV from this.

MtD

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Re: Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2007, 08:41:32 AM »



Dear Experts,

I am fea in this forum, but one of my friend can not registered for this forum for days, so, I told him to send the message to me and I will forwards this to the forum, I did not mean to break the lwas.

Here is his incident!

 

Firstly, thanks for this site and its vey kind experts who are always here helping people.

 

I am 33, I was taught in school about STDs, I hate sexual betrayal….

 

But two weeks ago, I was involved in an incident that created much trouble and worry for me! I was taking SAT vaccine( vaccine against Tetanus), one dose was divided into two shots, one shot to test the reaction, one shot to finish. After the 1st shot, the doctor wrote my name on the cap, then put it to the refrigerator, I was told to wait for 15 minutes.

 

Then I took the 2nd shot to finish my dose. But I realised that this syringe had a different color, I was afraid that that was not my syringe, because the doctor was talking over mobile phone when put the syringe to the refrigerator.

 

After that incident , I have living in fear!

 

I told my story with my friend( he is a doctor ), he said that there is no risk from getting injected with a  Intramuscular injection, because there is no blood involved in the syringe, you only pump chemical in to the body, then draw out, unlike using drug, one always take some blood into the syringe to see whether he finds the right vein.

 

Is my friend right?

 

The second question, while I am not surre about my status, I had sex with my wife, after the intercourse, I check my condom, and I see there is a tiny hole near  the top of the condom, that hole is not right on the top, I am feaful of tranmissing HIV to my wife.

 

Is that tiny hole enough for the transmission? It is not broken and visible, just a tiny hole that was found once I poured water into the condom and crushed, I saw the water-jet spurted out from the condom. So, you can not see it without testing by water and crush…

 

Help me , I am so scared and confused.

 

Thanks a lot, Expert.


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Re: Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2007, 10:23:27 AM »
This is all about WHAT IFS, which is not a good place to hang out in. You're guessing that IF the needle used was infectious. You have no sound basis for that in HIV science. Just your mind playing games.

And then that you'd be infecting your wife when there's no real basis for believing you are infected.

Hey! This is all head stuff with no basis whatsoever in HIV science.

 
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Re: Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2007, 10:23:30 PM »
Dear Experts,

The friend of mine is experiencing difficulties, I recommend this site for him but he could not signed up for days, and his Eglish is very bad.

I met him in the forum of the school. I want to help him!

He has only two questions:

1.Could Intramuscular injection transmiss HIV? ( no blood drawn from the vein like drug-users always do, I realise that: Intramuscular injection only pump chemical into the body)

2. Could tiny hole( or leakage) in the condom trasmiss HIV? I think that a very small amount of semen is not able to be infectious... May be this question is useful for everyone, we do not check the condom after using, but there are some tiny holes that are possible...

Again, thanks for your patience.

FEAR,

ON behalf of my friend.


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« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2007, 06:38:55 AM »
Fear,

1. NO. You've already been told this.

2. "Tiny holes" in condoms are a myth. There is no such thing. As soon as a condom develops a hole, it splits. You would notice if this happened to a condom you were using.

Make sure you click on the three condom and lube links in my signature line and read the information on those pages. Condoms, when used consistently (every time) and correctly, have been proven to prevent hiv infection.

You are very close to being given a time out. Your fears of hiv are not grounded in science - they are beyond the scope of this website. I suggest you seek counseling for your anxieties, we cannot help you with that here.

Ann
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Re: Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2007, 11:19:04 PM »
Dear EXPERTS,

Thanks for your reply, to be honest, I am not infavor of the question abput condom! I have read your  CONDOM info!

BUt, infact, there are sometimes, I check the condom by pouring water into it, then crush the body, there are still some water-jets, but they are very small....COuld you think that the failure of quality is because of the production-line ?

All the best,




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Re: Help me! CAn HIV live on the blade for 01 minute?
« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2007, 11:59:12 PM »
Condoms are a medical device requlated by the government. If you have a concern about a perticular condom brand contact the manufacturer. I'm sure they are going to get a laugh.

 


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