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Author Topic: My supplements.....too much?  (Read 3668 times)

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Offline racingmind

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My supplements.....too much?
« on: February 13, 2007, 05:15:05 PM »
Ok, here is what I am ingesting on a daily basis:

DanActive (Immunity)
Centrum Multi
Vitamins C, B Complex, E
Selenium
Magnesium
Green Tea Extract
and sometimes:
Fish Oil
Evening Primrose Oil

Any thoughts?
Tested Negative: 5/06
Tested Positive: 9/06 
9/06: CD4: 442 (28%) VL: +100,000
10/06: CD4: 323 (25%) VL: 243,440
11/06: CD4: 405 (28%) VL: 124,324
12/06: CD4: 450 (29%) VL: 114,600
1/07: CD4: 440 (27%) VL: 75,286
3/07: CD4: 459 (30%) VL: 44,860
5/07: CD4: 353 (24%) VL: 50,852
7/07: CD4: 437 (29%) VL: 39,475
9/07: CD4: 237 (32%) VL: 372,774
10/07: CD4: 324 (27%) VL: 115,454 
Started Atripla: 10/07
11/07: CD4: 524 (?%) VL: Undetectable!
2/08: CD4: 653 (35%) VL: undetectable
5/08: CD4: 822 (40%) VL: undetectable
8/08: CD4: 626 (35%) VL: undetectable
12/08: CD4: 619 (36%) VL: undetectable
3/09: CD4: 802 (38%) VL: undetectable
7/09: CD4: 1027 (43%) VL: not tested
10/09: CD4: 1045 (43%) VL: undetectable

Offline fondeveau

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Re: My supplements.....too much?
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2007, 06:36:14 PM »
A nice mix.  I like the DanActive Drink as well as the Activia Yogurt.  I usually try to have one of each every day.  I do the B12, E, Selenium, Omega 3 and multi-vitamin for the rest.  No other magnesium, but do take a zinc pill.  Prefer to actually drink tea. 

Just remember you can't make up for everything a poor diet is lacking with vities/supplements.  So, I hope you are doing the fruit/veggies and lots of water routine as well. 

Offline J.R.E.

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Re: My supplements.....too much?
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2007, 08:03:29 PM »
Hello,

I also take the daily Centrum


Subligual B complex

Selenium

Fish oil

Acetyl L- Carnitine

COQ-10

Alpha lipoic acid

Trying Cholestoff for about 5 months now.


And, I just finished a Dan Active about 30 minutes ago .( cranberry-raspberry) I like to take one of those half an hour before I take my night meds at 8:00 pm. Been big into Danactive for several years, love yogurt products even longer then that.


Ray


Current Meds ; Viramune, Epzicom, 40mg of simvastatin, 25 mg of Hydrochlorothiazide.
Metoprolol tartrate 25mg



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Diagnosed positive in 1985,.. In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started on  HAART on October 24th, 2003.

 As of 12/10/14,  t-cells are at 350,  Previous 8/25/14--- 402/ Viral load remains <40

 Current % is at 13% / Previous 8/25/14 11%

  
 63 years young.

Offline racingmind

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Re: My supplements.....too much?
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2007, 11:26:48 AM »
Oh yeah, I'm eating lots of fruits, veggies, and grains....I also quit smoking....

Zinc?  Is that something I'm missing?
Tested Negative: 5/06
Tested Positive: 9/06 
9/06: CD4: 442 (28%) VL: +100,000
10/06: CD4: 323 (25%) VL: 243,440
11/06: CD4: 405 (28%) VL: 124,324
12/06: CD4: 450 (29%) VL: 114,600
1/07: CD4: 440 (27%) VL: 75,286
3/07: CD4: 459 (30%) VL: 44,860
5/07: CD4: 353 (24%) VL: 50,852
7/07: CD4: 437 (29%) VL: 39,475
9/07: CD4: 237 (32%) VL: 372,774
10/07: CD4: 324 (27%) VL: 115,454 
Started Atripla: 10/07
11/07: CD4: 524 (?%) VL: Undetectable!
2/08: CD4: 653 (35%) VL: undetectable
5/08: CD4: 822 (40%) VL: undetectable
8/08: CD4: 626 (35%) VL: undetectable
12/08: CD4: 619 (36%) VL: undetectable
3/09: CD4: 802 (38%) VL: undetectable
7/09: CD4: 1027 (43%) VL: not tested
10/09: CD4: 1045 (43%) VL: undetectable

Offline fondeveau

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Re: My supplements.....too much?
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2007, 11:55:40 AM »
Prevents colds?

Offline bimazek

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Re: My supplements.....too much?
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2007, 02:30:36 AM »
  I would add    CO Q-10   ... it is kind of expensive so if money is big issue then dont worry but i read some studies...

85 NEW ARTICLES ON Q10 AND HIV IN JUST 2006!

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=hiv+q10&hl=en&lr=&btnG=Search

biochemical deficiencies of coenzyme Q10 in HIV-infection

 effect on viral load and oxidative stress in men with HIV- European Journal of Clinical Nutrition, 2001 - nature.com... IU vitamin A as -carotene, 250
mg vitamin C, 100 IU vitamin E, 100 g selenium, 50 mg coenzyme Q10)

Coenzyme Q10 is an anti-apoptotic agent with promising potential for human
immunodeficiency virus (HIV) therapy given the recent findings of apoptosis

Within the cell, coenzyme Q-10 is mostly present in the mitochondria (40-50%). ...
Biochemical deficiencies of coenzyme Q10 in HIV-infection and exploratory

I TRUST ANYTHING THE CANADIAN MED SYSTEM SAYS THEY ARENT SO BIG PHARMA ORIENTED
In British Columbia, provincial guidelines for the treatment of HIV are distributed ...
medicine, including Chinese and other herbs, coenzyme Q10, N-acetylcysteine

85 NEW ARTICLES ON Q10 AND HIV IN JUST 2006!

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?as_q=hiv+q10&num=100&btnG=Search+Scholar&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_occt=any&as_sauthors=&as_publication=&as_ylo=2006&as_yhi=2007&as_allsubj=all&hl=en&lr=



Offline risred1

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Re: My supplements.....too much?
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2007, 09:27:09 PM »
This is the list I take, essentially, I build my own program based upon KPAX formula, but purchased from Newyorkbuyersclub.org which comes in at about half of KPAX cost.

KPAX is a formula develop by DR. John Kaiser. My univiersity specialist doesn't believe in boutique care. And is skeptical about nutiritional supplementation in general as there isn't much formal study to base decision making on. But has had a more open mind lately as he has some slow progressors who are taking supplements. He now said to me, what ever your doing, keep it up.

I don't want to come off as an advocate. It is what I have found on the internet, thought compelling and now follow. I think that the newyorkbuyersclub.org is a tremendous resource, and as a non-profit, a great place to get your nutrients as a fair price.


Supplement List

Acetylcarnitine (DAAIR) Each bottle, 100 capsules. Each capsule, 500 mg of N-acetyl-L-carnitine, a form of the amino acid, carnitine. NYBC is currently having this product evaluated for identity and potency.
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THIOL NAC (N-Acetyl-l-Cysteine) Ultra Antioxidant (NYBC) Each bottle, 90 tablets, sustained release formula. Each tablet contains 500 mg of NAC, 200 mg of alpha lipoic acid and 250 mg of MSM sulfur.
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Added Protection Without Iron
Six tablets provide:

B-Complex Vitamins:
Vitamin B1 (thiamine mononitrate) 100 mg
Vitamin B2 (riboflavin) 50 mg
Niacin (a form of Vitamin B3). 40 mg
Niacinamide (a form of Vitamin B3) 150 mg
Pantothenic Acid (B5, d-calcium form) 400 mg
Vitamin B6 (pyridoxine HCl) 50 mg
Folic acid 800 mcg
Vitamin B12(on ion exchange resin) 100 mcg
Biotin 300 mcg
Choline (bitartrate) 150 mg

Other Vitamins:
Vitamin A (palmitate, water soluble) 10,000 IU
Beta Carotene (added Vitamin A activity) 5,000 IU
Vitamin C (ascorbic acid, corn-free) 1200 mg
Vitamin D-3 (fish liver oil) 200 IU
Vitamin E (d-alpha tocopheryl succinate) 400 IU
Vitamin K-1 (phytonadione) 60 mcg

Minerals:
Calcium (citrate ascorbate) 500 mg
Magnesium (aspartate-ascorbate complex) 500 mg
Potassium (aspartate-ascorbate complex) 99 mg
Copper (amino acid chelate) 2 mg
Manganese (aspartate-ascorbate complex) 20 mg
Zinc (amino acid chelate) 30 mg
Iodine (kelp) 150 mcg
Chromium GTF (bioactive ChromeMate form) 200 mcg
Selenium (amino acid complex) 200 mcg
Molybdenum (amino acid chelate) 150 mcg
Vanadyl sulfate (vanadium amino acid chelate) 200 mcg
Boron (aspartate-citrate) 2 mg

Other Ingredients:
PABA (para-aminobenzoic acid) 50 mg
Inositol (B-complex growth factor) 50 mg
Bioflavonoids (from citrus fruit) 100 mg
Methionine (DL-form, amino acid) 62.5 mg
Cysteine (L-form, amino acid) 250 mg
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7-Keto DHEA (Source Naturals) Each bottle, 60 tablets. Each tablet, 50 mg of 7-oxo DHEA sulfate (specifically, 3-acetyl-7-oxo-dehydroepiandrosterone).
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Astragalus (MMS) Each bottle, 100 capsules. Each capsule, 470 mg of astragalus root.
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Vitamin D3 (Jarrow) Each bottle, 100 caps. Each capsule, 400 IU of the fat-soluble vitamin D3 in the form of cholecalciferol. Also contains fish oil, soybean oil, gelatin, glycerin and water.
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Omega 3: Overview: Max DHA(Jarrow) Each bottle, 180 softgels. Eachsoftgel, 607 mg. This is a fish oil supplement, containing 500 mg each softgel of fish oil (comprised of different fatty acids) in a natural glyceride form.
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Probiotic: arro-Dophilus+FOS: Capsules (Jarrow) Each bottle, 100 capsules. Each 280 mg capsule contains more than 3.4 billion beneficial intestinal organisms (at the time of manufacture), along with 210 mg of FructoOligoSaccharides (FOS) that help their replication.
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Probiotic: Bifidus Balance Hypoallergenic/Non-dairy
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Korean Ginsing time release
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Vitamin C + Bioflavinoids 1000mg
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Vitamin E 800 mg
risred1 - hiv +
02/07 CD4 404 - 27% - VL 15k
10/07 CD4 484 - 31% - VL 45k
05/08 CD4 414 - 26% - VL 70k
01/09 CD4 365 - 23% - VL 65k
05/09 CD4 291 - 23% - VL 115k - Started Meds - Reyataz/Truvada
06/09 CD4 394 - ?% - VL 1200 - Boosted Reyataz with Norvir and Truvada
07/09 CD4 441 - ?% - VL 118 - Boosted Reyataz with Norvir and Truvada
09/09 CD4 375 - ?% - VL Undetectable - Boosted Reyataz with Norvir and Truvada
12/09 CD4 595 - ?% - VL Undetectable - VIT D 34 - Reyataz/Truvada/Norvir

Offline sweetasmeli

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Re: My supplements.....too much?
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2007, 02:41:18 AM »
Hi racingmind
You seem to have a pretty good program there. And the fact that you eat lots of fresh stuff and have given up smoking are totally in your favour too of course.

Zinc?  Is that something I'm missing?

From stuff I've read and heard, I believe zinc is one of the minerals that is reduced first and foremost in hiv+ folk. (Perhaps someone else here might be able to explain the science behind that...?). I take 30mg daily.

My supplement program (below) was recently tweaked after a consultation with a nutritionist:

B complex (B vits, vit B12, folic acid)
Nutriguard Plus (lipoic acid, zinc, selenium, betacarotene)
Acidophilus
Vitamin E
Vitamin C
MSM
EPA liquid

I also curently take extra lipoic acid, zinc and selenium, to make up the amounts I want/need. I'm due to see my nutritionist again in a few weeks, when she should have come up with a suitable base multivitamin which will cover the extra zinc/selenium I'm taking (meaning less pill popping!).

Hope the stopping smoking is going well. Bravo to you for that!

Yeia kai hara! (health and happiness)
Melia :)

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