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Offline Oh501sguy

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« on: January 27, 2007, 09:22:19 AM »
I have a buddy who is poz and healthy and likes to do coke ( and I'm not talking Pepsi's competition) on Sat nights.  He does very little.  His Tcells and VL are good.  Is this a horrible thing? Please comment. 

Offline Longislander

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Re: Question
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2007, 10:05:26 AM »
NAH- we should all do a little coke.
We should all move to the nearest city with mass transit, or at least sell our cars and go on Public Assistance.
And we should pass our love bug along to any drugged up twinkie who asks for it~

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Offline carousel

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Re: Question
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2007, 10:18:14 AM »
« Last Edit: February 15, 2007, 09:37:38 AM by carousel »

Offline Oh501sguy

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Re: Question
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2007, 10:27:48 AM »
On the outside no.  Not that I see.  He still goes to work and lives life as normal.  Just was a little concerned.  Non-judgemental, but just a thought.  I am going out for coffee with him tonight.  Just something I was thinking about.
I hear and read all of these things about people on drugs and how their life gets ruined.  He is a good person.

Offline thunter34

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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2007, 10:54:37 AM »
Honestly, I would keep more of a watchful eye for the addictive properties of coke in and of itself moreso than viewing it through the lens of HIV.  I understand why you're asking in terms of the HIV thing.  I'm just saying that coke has (deservedly, in my opinion) a reputation for being quickly addictive- and that addiction can spawn a multitude of other major life issues double-quick.  Like even before the health ramifications have time to kick in.  I really don't think there is too much you can really do about it, though...beyond a quick and gentle "be careful with that stuff'' kind of comment.  Preaching at him or anything of that nature will most likely have either no effect or a reverse effect. 
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2007, 11:06:38 AM »
"horrible" is in the eyes of the beholder.

Look at the facts:   many people do drugs of all types.  Humans have been altering themselves for quite some time.  In most cases, it's just fun.  But add the spectre of addiction in, and you find a lot of people, not just a few, who cannot deal.  Drugs have ruined many lives.  ...  but in many other cases, they've been completely innocuous.   I believe people have a right to make choices regarding their behavior.   With this goes the responsibility for that behavior.  To me... the most horrible thing is someone who does drugs but blames their behavior on things like "low self esteem" etc. 

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Offline Tucsonwoody

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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2007, 11:08:20 AM »
Yup - also agree that it's a matter of the impact on the individuals health that matters, which varies so much from person to person.  For me it's not the issue of which drug it is, coke, alcohol, weed, chocolate, real butter etc etc but how it's handled.
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Offline Oh501sguy

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Re: Question
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2007, 11:10:09 AM »
I appreciate the comments.  Very much


Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Question
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2007, 11:22:46 AM »
First of all, from everything I seem to have read over the years it's the uppers that are worst for HIV+ folks.  That said, I have a friend who does what I would call more than occasional use of coke, though less than an addict, and his health is OK and this has gone on for a good decade though it ebbs and flows.

Personally if I snort some lines once a year I won't obsess, though I've not done any in about 3 years.  For some reason I've always been able to manage any drug intake without developing an addiction, though many people can't do this so I never like endorsing drug use.  I have too many friends that now endure lives of Narccotics Anonymous meetings.
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Offline Ihavehope

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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2007, 11:38:04 AM »
Drugs are bad but it won't kill you if you do it once. Although it has occured to many. Just tell your friend to stay away from any kinds of drugs because they will always associate drugs and escape and being HIV we have many times we want to escape our reality which can lead to an addiction. I use to do certain drugs on occasion and 4 years later I was hooked on them because my problems kept getting bigger and bigger. I started doing drugs every six months, then every month and then every week and then every other day. We think we have control but many of us loose it.
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Offline aupointillimite

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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2007, 08:09:40 PM »
I have a buddy who is poz and healthy and likes to do coke ( and I'm not talking Pepsi's competition) on Sat nights.  He does very little.  His Tcells and VL are good.  Is this a horrible thing? Please comment. 

I did coke on the regular from 2004 (before diagnosis) until last summer.

It didn't seem to affect my viral load or CD4s in the slightest. 

And I'm not talking like "I only do blow on the occasional Saturday night" either.

I'm talking "I'm bored, and it's Tuesday" coke.  Followed by "I'm bored, and it's Thursday."  Followed by "Saturday!"  Then "Tuesday!"  You see where I'm going.  It was like a 3-4 time a week thing for several months.

I agree with Tim... I'd be much more worried about the actual addiction part than the drug affecting viral load and CD4s.
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Offline Miss Philicia

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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2007, 11:20:18 PM »
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