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Offline Force1

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Protein
« on: January 12, 2007, 04:18:04 PM »
I am using Carnation instant milk for protein suppliment.

Anyone else using any kind of added suppliments?

I want to gain weight darn it, and im gonna do it come hell or high water!

Offline bear60

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Re: Protein
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2007, 04:39:57 PM »
I dont know Force.  Seems to me Carnation Instant Milk would be a calcium supplement. But what do I know.
I think a protein supplement is peanut butter and ?
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Offline Force1

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Re: Protein
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2007, 04:51:58 PM »
Protein 8g



Calcium 30%



there is a formula for multiplying weigh to find out what protien you need to intake, I dont know if I can find that formula.

Offline ndrew

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Re: Protein
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2007, 11:02:39 AM »
I would caution you to not OVER consume protien... make sure you are also getting lots of fresh fruits, whole grains and veggies in your diet.  Nuts have more calories.  Maybe doing some weight training?

Drew

High-Protein Diets Associated With Increased Cancer Risk

A new study published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition found that high protein intakes are associated with an increased cancer risk. Washington University researchers evaluated the relationship between diet and certain plasma growth factors and hormones that are linked to cancer. The study's “low-protein” group, who consumed the recommended amount of protein from plant sources (approximately 10 percent of calories), had significantly lower blood levels of IGF-1 (hormone substances associated with premenopausal breast and prostate cancer) than two high-protein groups consuming 17 percent of calories as protein from mostly meat and dairy products.

Fontana L, Klein S, Holloszy JO. Long-term low-protein, low-calorie diet and endurance exercise modulate metabolic factors associated with cancer risk. Am J Clin Nutr 2006;84:1456-1462.

Offline mrtallguy

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Re: Protein
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2007, 11:46:12 AM »
Hey Force....
BALANCE is the key.....and that can be different for each one of us.   I take my Sustiva in the morning (3 doses of 200mg each spaced about 3 hours apart) so I make sure my morning diet is low fat (fat intake increases the weird effects of sustiva) while my "late day" diet can be higher in fat.  In the morning I do a shake which is high in protein and carbs since I am active throughout the day and my body can use that extra protein and carb intake.  So evaluate YOUR needs and consume accordingly.

Be Well....

Craig

PS....If you want to have more direct control over protein specifically try using a protein powder available at any vitamin store...they are available in flavors to mix with water or you can make a shake with fruit and juice etc.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2007, 12:02:13 PM by mrtallguy »
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Offline Force1

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Re: Protein
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2007, 01:25:24 PM »
I am very active, that stick im holing weigh's in at about 100lbs.

I actively lift 3 or 4 days a week.

I take 2 or 3 diffrent events and practice days im not lifiting.

Events consist of,

stone,shot put

light and heavy weight for distance 28 and 42lb weights

cabers, practice with cabers that are from 80lbs to 120lbs

hammers practice hammer and 16lb hammer

weight for height=42lbs

Yea the secreat is to take in more calories than you burn, toss in a few suppliments and some instant milk for extra, and WHERE IS THE WEIGHT I WANT TO GAIN?

Offline mrtallguy

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Re: Protein
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2007, 05:21:55 PM »
I AM NO NUTRITIONAL EXPERT BUT I DO KNOW THAT 8gm OF PROTEIN IS NOT MUCH OF A SUPPLEMENT. YOU MAY WANT TO CONSULT YOUR DOCTOR ABOUT HOW TO GAIN MUSCLE MASS CONSIDERING ALL OF THAT ACTIVITIY YOU ARE ENGAGING IN.....OR BETTER YET CONSULT A SPORTS TRAINER AND THEN TAKE HIS RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOUR DOC TO MAKE SURE IT IS MEDICALLY SOUND....GOOD LUCK!

BE WELL....

CRAIG
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Offline budndallastx

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Re: Protein
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2007, 10:15:00 PM »
My two cents ..

Protein is very hard on the kidneys !  Lot's of protein in the diet is a modern invention so as with all things, do it in moderation.  Most dieticians recommend no more than 4-6 oz of protein per meal so take it from there.  Most people have more than enough protein in their diet.
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9/8/2008 VL:<48 CD4 573 (30%)
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Offline bear60

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Re: Protein
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2007, 12:18:42 PM »
http://sportsmedicine.about.com/cs/nutrition/a/aa060101a.htm
Force: I found this interesting maybe you will find it helpful too.
Poz Bear Type in Philadelphia

Offline Force1

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Re: Protein
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2007, 02:46:25 PM »
Thanks,


" while a 150lb bodybuilder would need 61g protein. "


I just sprinkled about two teaspoons of instant milk in with a big bowl of mac-n-cheese

im gaining, kinda glad for bad weather it will allow me to eat a bit more and not work it off as fast.

Offline egello

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Re: Protein
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2007, 12:57:07 AM »
if you can tolerate dairy, maybe lots of good quality milk products, such as Stoney Field kind.

Milk, from reading its content to specific mineral level, is very very close to being a perfect food.

I wouldn't personally go with power stuff since its processed to death to get it to that level.

NDREW

btw, you look hot, anyhoo, those studies never mention what kind of protein they were eating nor how they were cooked. Often protein rich food has tons of cholestrol and when cholestrol is highly heated or oxidized before consuming, you are basically consuming poison. However, good quality all natural protein cooked certain safe way, I just don't see anything wrong with it.
Reyataz / Norvir / Truvada/ Androgel 5 g / 2 days
1/29/07 14 T, 300 k V, 1.8 %
2/22/07 197 T, 247 V, 6.8 %
3/27/07 164 T, <50 V, 5.4 %
5/28/07 177 T, <50 V, 8.2 %
7/28/07 214 T, <50 V, 9.6 %
10/3/07 380 T, <50 V, 10 % no more Mepron, Famvir

 


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