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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #150 on: January 11, 2007, 01:40:48 PM »
BAN
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Offline DanielMark

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #151 on: January 11, 2007, 01:47:14 PM »
« Last Edit: January 11, 2007, 01:57:37 PM by DanielMark »
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Re: Smokers
« Reply #152 on: January 11, 2007, 01:49:49 PM »
fyi- i was attacked on here for expressing the bad health habits of smoking.

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #153 on: January 11, 2007, 01:53:43 PM »
No one attacked you Scotty.  Re-read the thread.  You started with your mom, then went straight to your tirade on others and to step up and pay the price then straight to calling all smokers RUDE and ARROGANT, with NO ONE posting in between your posts.  So no you were not attacked.

Sit back, relax, dont have a smoke.

How is it that you got here my friend?  We care to hear more of your story.

Edited to add... WOW, i just looked up and saw all of AIDSMEDS powers that be LOOKING DOWN ON ME!  Holy shit everyone is here!
« Last Edit: January 11, 2007, 01:56:34 PM by ACinKC »
LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming--WOW! WHAT A
RIDE!!!

Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #154 on: January 11, 2007, 01:56:42 PM »
Plus he just registered at 9am and within 10 post began attacking me.  Yet somehow I'm to blame for not turning the other cheek and rolling over like a limp noodle.
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Re: Smokers
« Reply #155 on: January 11, 2007, 02:01:47 PM »
Philly I am sensing there is MORE to this story.

Scott showed up right ( maybe 20 minutes) after twofires disappeared and with the same type of shall we call it "dialogue".  I sense a conspiracy, but I do believe the wonderful CSI-HIV team is on the scene!

And to all of you watching us....
« Last Edit: January 11, 2007, 02:06:42 PM by ACinKC »
LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming--WOW! WHAT A
RIDE!!!

Offline thunter34

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #156 on: January 11, 2007, 02:02:53 PM »
Plus he just registered at 9am and within 10 post began attacking me.  Yet somehow I'm to blame for not turning the other cheek and rolling over like a limp noodle.

That's how I was feeling.  I didn't want a war, but I felt like several of us were under undue attack.


Only 10 posts?


Holy Smokes!
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Re: Smokers
« Reply #157 on: January 11, 2007, 02:07:06 PM »
The moderator should be able to trace his IP then.  Isn't that against the TOS for the forum... duplicate usernames for the purpose of flaming?

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #158 on: January 11, 2007, 02:08:56 PM »
Yeah....but twofires didn't present himself to be...um....''anti-smoking'', shall we say? 


EDITED TO SAY:  Take a reread through some of twofires' posts from before to see what I mean.  He was declaring a need for ''buds'' on one of his threads.   Not the BFF kind.
« Last Edit: January 11, 2007, 02:12:46 PM by thunter34 »
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Re: Smokers
« Reply #159 on: January 11, 2007, 02:10:12 PM »
u all better fuck off >:(

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #160 on: January 11, 2007, 02:10:53 PM »
Have any of you bothered to read the posting guidelines in the Welcome Thread namely:

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I also recommend you all read through the Time Out Policy. There are several of you in this thread who are very close to getting a Time Out.

AC Knock it off with the sarcastic pictures already. It's getting old fast.

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Offline Strayboy74

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #161 on: January 11, 2007, 02:11:02 PM »
Yeah....but twofires didn't present himself to be...um....''anti-smoking'', shall we say? 

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #162 on: January 11, 2007, 02:12:01 PM »
Read ann's post....

This guy knows when to cut and run! (unlike Bush)
LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming--WOW! WHAT A
RIDE!!!

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #163 on: January 11, 2007, 02:13:42 PM »
OK Scott, that's enough. I'm giving you a Time Out. You've been repeatedly warned, not only in this thread, but in private correspondence with the main person who runs these forums.

See you in a week - I hope you learn some manners in the mean time. Or do you think it's polite to walk up to a bunch of strangers and start hurling abuse around?

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #164 on: January 11, 2007, 02:19:39 PM »

This is just a friendly warning to anyone who thinks it would be a good idea to carry on what Scott started.

DON'T!

Ann
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #165 on: January 11, 2007, 02:23:14 PM »

And another thing - if any of you have suspicions about the identity of a new poster, please talk to me via PM. In this case Scott is NOT twofires - if he were he would have been gone before he even got started, ok? Give us some credit please!

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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #166 on: January 11, 2007, 02:26:49 PM »
Now..... back to what I was saying...

I think that the correlation is due to the fact alot of us (not all of us mind you) have what I would call "high risk" personalities.  Enjoy engaging in lots of different stimulus seeking adventures in everyday life.  At one time, this may have been smoking or sex or drugs or whatever.  But i think it has to do with that.

(The above is in reference to what the poster ORIGINALLY ASKED)
« Last Edit: January 11, 2007, 02:28:34 PM by ACinKC »
LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming--WOW! WHAT A
RIDE!!!

Offline ACinKC

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #167 on: January 11, 2007, 02:28:01 PM »
And another thing - if any of you have suspicions about the identity of a new poster, please talk to me via PM. In this case Scott is NOT twofires - if he were he would have been gone before he even got started, ok? Give us some credit please!

Ann
(who is trying to be patient!)


Sorry Ann.... id post a pic of a dog with its tail between its legs but I think a description is my best bet right now.  You KNOW i dont like trying your patience.
LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming--WOW! WHAT A
RIDE!!!

Offline Peter Staley

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #168 on: January 11, 2007, 02:31:10 PM »
FYI -- Scott continued to abuse the moderators via email, and has been permanently banned.

Good riddance.

Peter

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #169 on: January 11, 2007, 02:55:43 PM »
From New to Permanent Ban in 11 posts.  That's surely some kind of record.
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Re: Smokers
« Reply #170 on: January 11, 2007, 03:04:10 PM »
"The hotest places in hell are reserved for those who in a time of need did nothing."   Dante     Live is rough,  I have quit many times.  Cold turkey in a support group with health adviser, went 5yrs saying I'll never go through that hell again, quiting was rough.  Meeting a old friend out door cafe beautiful perfect summer day one drink and I bummed a cig.  Next long successful ride is current, used mega doses of wellbutrin and patch for a while  till over what I though was a hump 30 days or so.  I had to ask card playing friends to smoke joints out side because I was getting high from them and that one joint by being at the table.  I tend to lock up on grass, so! All rules for hard core addiction apply to heavy and long term smokers.   On rare occasion I have the urge even after 4yrs now.  I herd a psyc say one time, for drugs and alcohol 10 yrs clean before she would consider having it really licked. Knowing how much I hate being a slave to it, i hate to mention my achievement as I also know how easy it can be to fall back.  Even almost feel its bad luck to put this out there.  But hope people try still. best of luck it dose smell,                   sjcolorwing ::) ???

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #171 on: January 11, 2007, 03:11:31 PM »
Yes, I think it is a record. It just shows how things can be accomplished when someone is really focused.

Now, there we were having an interesting conversation about smoking and not smoking, I went out to buy some groceries and jeezus, I come back and the place has gone nuclear.

Whew!

Now this is genteel by comparison to all of that. I remember being very "sophisticated," and sitting in the schoolyard during lunch, puffing away on a Viceroy, and seeing the afternoon paper headline that the king of England had died. I don't know if he was a smoker. In any case, I was too busy like I said, being sophisticated.

About 20 years ago my then-10 year old son looked at me intently as I lit up and asked, "Do you want to die?" I was so embarassed that I stopped -- and then switched to smoking when he wasn't around.

Can't remember the last time I had a cigarette. I'd still love having one after a good meal or after a ....good meal. Except they make me cough up what's left of my brains.

So I have a couple of cartons of unopened Galoises Blonde sitting in the kitchen hutch. I like knowing they're there, like the promise of a good time -- sometime but not today.

For the timebeing the price of the good time is just too high. And then there is my vigilant son, who's on my case enough about other stuff without giving him more to work on his po' ol' pop.

I did enjoy being sophisticated.
 
« Last Edit: January 11, 2007, 04:50:32 PM by Andy Velez »
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Re: Smokers
« Reply #172 on: January 11, 2007, 03:22:00 PM »
FYI -- Scott continued to abuse the moderators via email, and has been permanently banned.

Dammit!   I was hoping to set up a date with him since I'm a non-tobacco-smoker too.  They're so hard to find.

AIDSmeds once again tramples 1st amendment rights!!  (that is a JOKE!!!!) [maybe inappropriate but at least I didn't write fuck]

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #173 on: January 11, 2007, 04:24:23 PM »
This thread would not be complete without this:




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_it3btjwmzo




Aaaah....there it is.....
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Re: Smokers
« Reply #174 on: January 11, 2007, 04:55:12 PM »
Nice deflection FAT BOY!!! :)

Oh come now!  Name calling???  Philly is such a cool city, please do it justice... and BTW, you'd pay to have my bod - made all the hotter and buffer by the fact that I DON'T SMOKE!!!!

Soooo, nahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!   ;D
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Re: Smokers
« Reply #175 on: January 11, 2007, 05:05:17 PM »
Gee, whiz - go to work and see  how much fun everyone is having without me!  Well, Today is Day 2 following my quit date....going well...recommending Chantix to several friends to help quit...enduring much teasing by men who wish to satisfy my oral cravings....

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #176 on: January 11, 2007, 05:23:07 PM »
Quote from: philly267
Nice deflection FAT BOY!!!

Oh come now!  Name calling???  Philly is such a cool city, please do it justice... and BTW, you'd pay to have my bod - made all the hotter and buffer by the fact that I DON'T SMOKE!!!!

Soooo, nahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!   ;D

Children, children, can we all take a Time Out? 

steve, philly's original valid example of obesity as a nationwide medical problem in response to your valid point about the cost of healthcare for smokers wasn't rude.  It was simply a counterpoint.

I guess you don't know him well enough to realize "FAT BOY" was said in jest, or it reads that way to me.   As a fat non-smoker I of all people should be greatly slighted!

We're a wild and varied group here and it takes a while to figure out who the harmless but goofy people are.  What may appear to be an insult is not intended to be at all.  We just like to joke around.

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #177 on: January 11, 2007, 05:50:44 PM »


O Henry!
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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline ariesguy2007

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #178 on: January 11, 2007, 06:02:26 PM »
my view on smoking? if you smoke, you got to be able to face the consequences that come with the addiction(cancer, copd, emphysema etc.). and please smokers-be considerate of non smokers, as secondhand kills and that is a proven fact.

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #179 on: January 11, 2007, 06:07:47 PM »
hmm, I know people that don't smoke that have died of COPD, Cancer and emphysema.

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« Reply #180 on: January 11, 2007, 06:08:57 PM »
hmm, I know people that don't smoke that have died of COPD, Cancer and emphysema.

WELL THAT'LL LEARN 'EM!

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #181 on: January 11, 2007, 06:15:18 PM »
hey rapidrod- they must be in a very small minority. why is that smokers or people who support smoking always have to answer back and start a fight, without having any facts to back up their statement? amazing.

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #182 on: January 11, 2007, 06:19:29 PM »
My auntie has lung cancer and she has never smoked.
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Re: Smokers
« Reply #183 on: January 11, 2007, 06:23:52 PM »
DAY 2 FOR ME..

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #184 on: January 11, 2007, 06:30:59 PM »
people who get lung cancer and never smoke and in a very small minority. too small to even count. too many people here that defend smoking and smokers. it really is sad.

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« Reply #185 on: January 11, 2007, 06:35:10 PM »
hey rapidrod- they must be in a very small minority. why is that smokers or people who support smoking always have to answer back and start a fight, without having any facts to back up their statement? amazing.

I don't see that offering another perspective is automatically 'starting a fight'. 
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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #186 on: January 11, 2007, 06:40:56 PM »
Actually Philly's gotten a bit trendy lately, as long as you avoid North Philly which is bombed out like Fallujah.  Anyway, I lived in about the most trendy place in the US (NYC) for +15 years and I need some respite, but not to much.  Philly *IS* still the 5th largest metropolitan area in the US, so take that you flunkies.  Plus I still have an apartment in NYC so I can traipse up there whenever I feel like it -- it's only 1.25 hour train ride away.

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #187 on: January 11, 2007, 06:43:59 PM »
hey rapidrod- they must be in a very small minority. why is that smokers or people who support smoking always have to answer back and start a fight, without having any facts to back up their statement? amazing.
I don't understand, you just registered at 1756 EST and by 18:15 you're are throwing out accusations. I'm not going to go through this again tonight.

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #188 on: January 11, 2007, 06:43:59 PM »
DAY 2 FOR ME..

Counting days helps I think

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« Reply #189 on: January 11, 2007, 06:45:19 PM »
people who get lung cancer and never smoke and in a very small minority. too small to even count.

I think Christopher Reeves' wife was a non smoker who had cancer but someone told me she was a lounge singer in smoky clubs. I didn't bother to do more research. Was she a singer?

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #190 on: January 11, 2007, 06:46:23 PM »
I'm not going to go through this again tonight.

I was thinking the same thing...here we go again tonight!

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #191 on: January 11, 2007, 06:46:38 PM »
Laura Bush sneaks Kools from Secret Service member when out of range of the TV cameras and reporters.
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« Reply #192 on: January 11, 2007, 06:50:55 PM »
God, I love smoking... crack.  ;D

Just thought I'd share.

Your tastebuds can't repel flavor of this magnitude!

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« Reply #193 on: January 11, 2007, 07:15:02 PM »
people who get lung cancer and never smoke and in a very small minority. too small to even count. too many people here that defend smoking and smokers. it really is sad.

This is factually incorrect. Just some very basic google research shows: Ten percent of 170,000 -- that's 17,000, hardly a number too small to count -- annual cases of lung cancer in the US occur in non-smokers. Another source puts the %age as a range, 10 to 15%.

And second-hand smoke: yep, it does pose a real risk -- apparently 3,000 annual deaths (not occurrences) from lung cancer are attributable to second-hand smoke. Usually when the person has been living with someone who smokes heavily.

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Her finely-touched spirit had still its fine issues, though they were not widely visible. Her full nature, like that river of which Cyrus broke the strength, spent itself in channels which had no great name on the earth. But the effect of her being on those around her was incalculably diffusive: for the growing good of the world is partly dependent on unhistoric acts; and that things are not so ill with you and me as they might have been, is half owing to the number who lived faithfully a hidden life, and rest in unvisited tombs.

George Eliot, Middlemarch, final paragraph

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #194 on: January 11, 2007, 07:16:01 PM »
I remember my great grandmother.  She loved her Winston's.  I can't remember ever seeing her without one dangling from her lips.  She died a a number of years ago.  It was a smoking related death.  She had just finished canning her pickles and was carrying them down to the basement.  Her cigarette fell out of her mouth, she lost her balance and fell down the stairs.  Seems she broke a hip.  She died from shock a few days later.  She was 102 years old.
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Re: Smokers
« Reply #195 on: January 11, 2007, 07:28:17 PM »
EVERYONE...

This is a general warning. If we have a repeat of what went on in this thread earlier today, ALL INVOLVED will be given a Time Out. I'm NOT kidding.

If you are unsure whether what you want to post will earn you a time out, DON'T post it. Simple as that.

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #196 on: January 11, 2007, 07:30:07 PM »
Yes, lydgate, that is what I was trying to get at earlier.  Close proximity over time to concentrated second hand smoke can likely cause problems.  I just think all the hollering about occasionally passing by some smoke in public is, well...blown out of proportion.

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Re: Smokers
« Reply #197 on: January 11, 2007, 07:36:50 PM »
I have no problem with polite social smokers that are considerate of others. Unfortunately, that does not seem to be the majority of them. I commute through the canyons in Los Angeles and hardly a day goes by where I don't see some smoker throw their lit cigarette out the window. Not only do they do this on the streets, public beaches, etc...but they do it in areas where signs specifically warn about fire danger because of the dry brush.

On a more personal note, I will occasionally date lite smokers but stay away from the pack a day type. Nothing kills the mood more than tasting a mouth that has just smoked[/shadow][/shadow]. So those of you smokers who date non smokers, please remember to brush your teeth and gargle first. Doubt this news will deter any bitter, hardcore, "rebel" smokers from lighting up any more or less than they do now.  But do keep it in mind next time you have a date with a non smoker.

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« Reply #198 on: January 11, 2007, 07:45:14 PM »
Beware of studies.  Correlation does not always equal causation.



Ice cream sales and the number of shark attacks on swimmers are correlated.
Skirt lengths and stock prices are highly correlated (as stock prices go up, skirt lengths get shorter).
The number of cavities in elementary school children and vocabulary size have a strong positive correlation.

from: http://www.stat.tamu.edu/stat30x/notes/node42.html
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« Reply #199 on: January 11, 2007, 07:58:53 PM »
Beware of studies.  Correlation does not always equal causation.



Ice cream sales and the number of shark attacks on swimmers are correlated.
Skirt lengths and stock prices are highly correlated (as stock prices go up, skirt lengths get shorter).
The number of cavities in elementary school children and vocabulary size have a strong positive correlation.

from: http://www.stat.tamu.edu/stat30x/notes/node42.html

Yes, the original poster reminded the thread of this (Statistics 101). That having been said, a strong correlation (strong being a relative word of course) can be the basis for investigating whether a causal link does in fact exist.

Her finely-touched spirit had still its fine issues, though they were not widely visible. Her full nature, like that river of which Cyrus broke the strength, spent itself in channels which had no great name on the earth. But the effect of her being on those around her was incalculably diffusive: for the growing good of the world is partly dependent on unhistoric acts; and that things are not so ill with you and me as they might have been, is half owing to the number who lived faithfully a hidden life, and rest in unvisited tombs.

George Eliot, Middlemarch, final paragraph

 


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