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Offline scaredgrl

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Anal fluids and HIV transmission
« on: January 05, 2007, 05:00:25 AM »
Hi, I'm very worried since I was recently exposed to someone with HIV thru anal fluids getting on an area of my finger that has a partially healed hang nail. the person told me after and i've since been freaked out about my finger.

Is it at all possible to catch HIV from anal fluids coming into contact with an almost healed hang nail?. I have a hang nail/cut that seems closed, it's not bleeding but it's not fully healed so I don't know if it's considered intact skin?, should I be worried since anal fluids are highly contagious I heard?.
I was wearing gloves but when removing them some lube/fluids got on the area of my finger and now i'm thinking I might have be at risk for HIV.

can someone let me know this risk?. ???

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Re: Anal fluids and HIV transmission
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2007, 05:20:24 AM »
No, you aren't at risk for HIV from that.
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Re: Anal fluids and HIV transmission
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2007, 05:21:46 AM »
You are not going to infected by fingering someone ass. It doesn't matter if you have a hangnail, abrasions or cuts on your fingers.

Offline scaredgrl

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Re: Anal fluids and HIV transmission
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2007, 05:27:47 AM »
Ok thats good news, so even if the person is HIV positive I won't get infected from the anal fluids that touched my cut finger?..thats interesting so I guess theres no need for me to get tested or anything over this?. I guess it has to be a large cut then?.

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Re: Anal fluids and HIV transmission
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2007, 05:35:00 AM »
Yes, you guessed right.

Offline scaredgrl

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Re: Anal fluids and HIV transmission
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2007, 07:36:48 AM »
Ok..so it's all just a myth then?, you can't get HIV thru sperm, blood or anal fluids coming into contact with open sores, cuts etc, just intercourse? huh.
Strange since I keeping reading on the web and hearing about this being risky, incld from Dr's..which makes sense since you're talking about being exposed to fluids on open cuts etc. I also know that if you have open cuts in your mouth and have oral sex you can contract HIV..I don't know why my Dr thinks this is a risk then, she's got me all worried since I really don't want to take antiretrovirals if there really is no risk..but I do know this guy has HIV for sure.


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Re: Anal fluids and HIV transmission
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2007, 07:45:48 AM »
scared,

Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus, that is primarily transmitted INSIDE the human body as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse. While it would be theoretically possible to become infected via bodily fluids getting into a cut, it just doesn't happen in real life.

As for cuts in the mouth and hiv, the cuts would really have to be so bad that you'd hardly be giving blowjobs. Saliva contains over a dozen different properties that damage hiv and render it unable to infect.

Please read through the Welcome Thread and follow the Transmission Lesson link so you can gain a better understanding of what is and what isn't a risk.

Here's what else you need to know to avoid hiv infection: You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL STIs together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with a sexually transmitted infection. Sex with a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

You didn't have a risk in the situation you bring to us.

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Offline scaredgrl

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Re: Anal fluids and HIV transmission
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2007, 03:55:56 PM »
Thanks for the responses, I feel a little better.. I'm just nervous of the fact that it's theoretically possible for me to still catch HIV thru the fluids that came into contact with the half healed cut on my thumb...there was lube mixed with the fluids, would this make it harder to catch?.

So you're saying I should not be concerned since it never happens in real life, really?... maybe it's just not researched enough and theres not many known cases since possibly people wouldn't think of this type of situation...even though it makes total sense to me that you could contract it.. unless the fluids don't penetrate deep enough into the cut, which I think would be my case.

So I'm leaning more towards your answer and not my Dr who keeps making me paranoid about this, she's telling me to get tested..but if people in this forum who seem pretty educated about the whole HIV topic are telling me I had no risk in this situation, then I'm not needing to test since I havn't been ingaging in oral or intercourse, ever!...so wheres the risk then?..the only risk is what happened with my finger,which to my understanding is NOT a risk...I'm only 17 by the way...and this guy mentioned to me that he is HIV possitive after the fact.. and that I should get checked since my finger came into contact when I mentioned it..I was not happy and he has since changed his #.

I also didn't have my finger inside him at all..I used something and was wearing latex gloves.. I'm very carefull usually about theese things..but when I removed the gloves and went to pick them up after 2 mins..some fluids from the gloves got on my cut and completely covered the area.
So theres no need for me to be loosing the sleep that I have then?. So is this was you, you wouldn't bother testing over this incident since NO risk.

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Re: Anal fluids and HIV transmission
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2007, 04:42:55 PM »
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it's theoretically possible for me to still catch HIV thru the fluids that came into contact with the half healed cut on my thumb

scared,

NO. If you had a FRESH, DEEP cut - purely theoretically. A half healed cut? NO WAY.

You did NOT have a risk for hiv infection. No way, no how.

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Offline scaredgrl

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Re: Anal fluids and HIV transmission
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2007, 12:45:28 PM »
Ann, thanks for getting back again, I appreciate it...sorry for my ignorance and continuous posts...great site btw, very informative.

I wish all of you the best in your lives  :)


Offline scaredgrl

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Re: Anal fluids and HIV transmission
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2007, 11:25:55 AM »
Hey guys, it's me again...I went in to see my family Dr and she disagreed and says that it is a low risk, but the risk still does exist and that I should have seen her to take pep..the cut was not fully healed..there was some what of a fresh area since i kept ripping at the hang nail(there are deep areas)..I explained all of this to her and she works in conjunction with ACT(aids commitee toronto) and says I'm at risk, I'm upset with my self for going on line listening to people's advice...thats my fault.

I mentioned this forum and she said I shouldn't be listening to people other then a Dr..but I still want to believe what you guys are saying, of course...not trying to annoy anyone here, I'm just very scared now obviously..mean while I thought every thing was ok from my last posts..and the answers i got from you all seemed very reassuring.

anyway she has made me get tested since it's too late for pep she says, and she wants me to return in another 6 months to get re tested...Now exactly two weeks after the incident..I ended up very very sick with some sort of flu..and I never get sick, i also had a fever..this flu lasted a long time..over two weeks almost...when I told her this she didn't say much, just to get tested and that it does happen in real life where people get infected this way...what do you people think about my Dr..is she just being overly cautious?..I sure hope so. she also said it depends how low his viral load is??.

Tina



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Re: Anal fluids and HIV transmission
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2007, 11:57:45 AM »
You will test HIV negative after this incident of fingering someone's ass.  And your doctor is crazy for saying you would need PEP--you can go to most doctors and they would never recommend PEP for this, not only for the fact you don't have a risk, but the fact that they will not give PEP to just anybody since the risk of side effects.  They would only recommend it in situations where the benefits outweigh the risks.  And the recommendations are 3 months for a definitively negative HIV tests, not 6 months.  You can test until the cows come home, but you will not be found to be positive after this incident.
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Re: Anal fluids and HIV transmission
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2007, 12:24:46 PM »
I don't like to get into criticism of someone's doctor. I'll just agree with Coffee and say that PEP would have been totally unwarranted in relation to this incident.

Simply because someone is a doctor doesn't mean they know everything and most especially about HIV. The very fact that she would say to re-test in 6 months is an indication of how outdated and out-of-touch she is about HIV today. The CDC, which is quite conservative about this issue, has for sometime recommended that testing at 13 weeks will give you a reliable result.

As you have been told previously, you were absolutely not at risk during the incident you're concerned about. We're very cautious here about what we say in terms of risk.

If this is going to continue to haunt you then go ahead and get tested at 13 weeks and collect the inevitable negative result. This is not an HIV situation. Period.
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Re: Anal fluids and HIV transmission
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2007, 01:01:51 PM »
"I explained all of this to her and she works in conjunction with ACT(aids commitee toronto) and says I'm at risk, I'm upset with my self for going on line listening to people's advice...thats my fault."

If the above statement is true, why are you here again? 
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Am I at risk here?
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2008, 06:37:42 PM »
A friend of mine is HIV poz. Last night I allowed him to go down on me, oral sex.
We used a condom, cut in half. I noticed the condom slipped off a cpl times.
He does not have any visible sores on his mouth. I am worried I may have been exposed to HIV?.

Do I have anything to worry about here. The edges kept slipping when I was holding the condom in place, while he was performing oral sex on me. I am worried. Please help ease my mind.
He told me there is no risk?.

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Re: Anal fluids and HIV transmission
« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2008, 06:47:54 PM »
I've merged your latest thread with your previous one. Please follow our rule and keep all of your entries in a single thread.

It wouldn't have mattered if your friend was bleeding, if you had not used a condom for cunnilingus or any other details you throw into the mix. No woman has ever been confirmed to have become infected by having someone go down on her. You aren't going to make history by becoming the first.

The only confirmed risks for sexual transmission of HIV are unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse. Make sure that any guy you have intercourse with is wearing a latex condom and you will both be well protected as far as HIV is concerned. Period.
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Offline scaredgrl

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Re: Anal fluids and HIV transmission
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2009, 03:49:35 PM »
Hi, there is a government web site that claims there has been a few cases of HIV transmission through unprotected oral sex. They claim that cunnilingus from someone infected poses a small risk, but it's still a risk, right?. If my boy friend is hiv poz and goes down on me without a dental dam, you're telling me you can bet I will be hiv negative?. We have never had intercourse at all.

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Re: Anal fluids and HIV transmission
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2009, 03:57:56 PM »
No one has ever become infected by having oral sex performed on them -- neither woman nor man. You aren't going to make history by becoming the first.

As long as you make sure the guy always wears a condom for vaginal or anal intercourse you will be well protected as far as sexual risk for HIV is concerned.

Once again you are worrying needlessly.  Really.
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Offline scaredgrl

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Re: Anal fluids and HIV transmission
« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2009, 10:00:41 PM »
ok, as long as you are sure. I allowed an hiv positive man to go down on me, thinking it is safe. but after reading a few web sites that mentions it is rare, but that there have been a few cases.. it worried me.

I wonder why the government site says that then?. And people are telling me to get tested in case he had open sores in his mouth etc. but you mentioned in an earlier post that it would not matter if he were even bleeding?. I sure hope you are right about this, even though I heard you can catch hiv through oral. rare and low risk but possible. the guy only stayed down there for a short time.

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« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2009, 11:27:27 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2009, 05:05:10 AM »
scared,

There has never, ever been a confirmed, documented case of oral transmission to a person who is receiving oral (getting blown or being gone down on). Never. Never ever. Not only is saliva not infectious, but it also contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect.

When you see references on other websites concerning oral being any type of risk, they are talking about risk to a person GIVING a BLOWJOB. Even then, it rarely happens and usually involves the person giving the blowjob having very poor oral health.

If we thought you were at risk for hiv infection when this guy went down on you, we'd tell you. We don't want you to end up hiv positive any more than you do. As long as you're making sure condoms are being used for anal or vaginal intercourse, you aren't going to have to worry about becoming infected.

If you cannot bring yourself to believe us, go test and collect your negative result. As a sexually active adult you should be having a sexual health check-up at least once a year anyway, including but NOT limited to hiv testing. The other STIs are MUCH more easily transmitted than hiv.

As Rodney pointed out, you are very close to being given a time out. Please consider yourself warned for the last time.

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