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Author Topic: drinking alcohol with meds  (Read 2595 times)

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Offline koi1

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drinking alcohol with meds
« on: December 25, 2006, 10:21:12 AM »
I have been reading a lot of members posting that they drink, some regularly. All the info. I have read says this should be avoided, that it encourages aids progression. Is it possible to live with AIDS and have a drink or two per night and not cause more damage?


rob
diagnosed on 11/20/06 viral load 23,000  cd4 97    8%
01/04/07 six weeks after diagnosis vl 53,000 cd4 cd4 70    6%
Began sustiva truvada 01/04/07
newest labs  drawn on 01/15/07  vl 1,100    cd4 119    7%
Drawn 02/10/07
cd4=160 viral load= 131 percentage= 8%
New labs 3/10/07 (two months on sustiva truvada
cd4 count 292  percentage 14 viral load undetectable

Offline sdcabincrew74

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Re: drinking alcohol with meds
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2006, 04:03:05 PM »
Hey Rob,

I wash my meds down with dinner every night.  What usually washes them down is a cold glass of beer.  The key is moderation in all things.  My doc says as long as I stay under three drinks per day, I am fine.  The alcohol has no effect on the meds but of course, works the liver a bit.  But, then again, I already have "AIDS" since I have had PCP and cd4 of 22, so the idea of "AIDS" does not really bother me.  I am healthy now and a life half lived is not a life worth living.  Moderation hon, in ALL things.  Take care and Merry Christmas and all that jazz!
The difference between an overnight and a layover is luck!

Offline J.R.E.

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Re: drinking alcohol with meds
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2006, 08:08:14 PM »


I quit drinking around 1998-99. Had to , I am an alchoholic !! :P   If I never became HIV positive, the alcohol would have eventuually done me in. !!

I will still have a few drinks around the holidays, but overall, it just doesn't mix with my meds very well !



Moderation.... Don't get so drunk that you forget to take your meds....



Ray
Current Meds ; Viramune, Epzicom, 40mg of simvastatin, 12.5mg of Hydrochlorothiazide.
Metoprolol tartrate 25mg



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 In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started my first  HAART regimen  on October 24th,03.

 As of 6/4/14,  t-cells are at 423, Viral load <40

 Current % is at 13% 

  
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Offline koi1

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Re: drinking alcohol with meds
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2006, 10:58:07 PM »
Yeah,
That's what those drinking and HIV studies say is a big problem. People drink and don't take their meds like they should. Which is disastrous, and frustrating for the doctors who are trying to help. I cut down my drinking even before knowing my HIV status. It made me sick at night with diarrhea and imsomnia. Now I will cut it down even further. Maybe a few on my birthday to celebrate that I am still alive.

rob

diagnosed on 11/20/06 viral load 23,000  cd4 97    8%
01/04/07 six weeks after diagnosis vl 53,000 cd4 cd4 70    6%
Began sustiva truvada 01/04/07
newest labs  drawn on 01/15/07  vl 1,100    cd4 119    7%
Drawn 02/10/07
cd4=160 viral load= 131 percentage= 8%
New labs 3/10/07 (two months on sustiva truvada
cd4 count 292  percentage 14 viral load undetectable

Offline Longislander

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Re: drinking alcohol with meds
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2006, 11:00:24 PM »
someone here ( I think it's Blondebeauty, but I'm not sure), was able to switch to taking theirAtripla in the mornings. That would definitely help someone who wants to have a few at night.
infected 10/05 diagnosed 12-05
2/06   379/57000                    6/07 372/30500 25%   4/09 640/U/32% 
5/06   ?? /37000                     8/07 491/55000/24%    9/09 913/U/39%
8/06   349/9500 25%              11/07 515/68000/24     2/10 845/U/38%
9/06   507/16,000 30% !          2/08  516/116k/22%    7/10 906/80/39%
12/06 398/29000 26%             Start Atripla 3/08
3/07   402/80,000 29%            4/08  485/undet!/27
4/07   507/35,000 25%            7/08 625/UD/34%
                                                 11/08 684/U/36%

Offline Dachshund

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Re: drinking alcohol with meds
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2006, 11:18:07 PM »
Yeah,
That's what those drinking and HIV studies say is a big problem. People drink and don't take their meds like they should. Which is disastrous, and frustrating for the doctors who are trying to help. I cut down my drinking even before knowing my HIV status. It made me sick at night with diarrhea and imsomnia. Now I will cut it down even further. Maybe a few on my birthday to celebrate that I am still alive.

rob



If you were drinking to the point of diarrhea and insomnia...well, then you most likely should not be drinking. If you are drinking to the point you forget to take your meds...well, then you most likely should not be drinking. In moderation, there should not be any problems. Cheers!

Offline koi1

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Re: drinking alcohol with meds
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2006, 12:11:04 AM »
Actually,

I was not drinking a lot. Just one or two drinks would do a number on my digestive system, and disturb my sleep. I am sure it had to do with my tcell count being 97. So no, I was not a raving drunk. I have not touched a drop since I tested positive over a month ago. Just don't crave it. It must be the depression. If the craving doesn't come back I won't be too disappointed.

rob
diagnosed on 11/20/06 viral load 23,000  cd4 97    8%
01/04/07 six weeks after diagnosis vl 53,000 cd4 cd4 70    6%
Began sustiva truvada 01/04/07
newest labs  drawn on 01/15/07  vl 1,100    cd4 119    7%
Drawn 02/10/07
cd4=160 viral load= 131 percentage= 8%
New labs 3/10/07 (two months on sustiva truvada
cd4 count 292  percentage 14 viral load undetectable

Offline DanielMark

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Re: drinking alcohol with meds
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2006, 05:22:34 AM »
As a recovering alcoholic since 1987 I normally abstain from all forms of drinking, but I hereby do publicly confess that I did imbibe to a great degree the other night at the boyfriend's. I knew it was risky, I knew it was wrong, and yet ...

When I woke up (came to) I was still sitting upright on the sofa, and he was snoring away in the bedroom. :o

So lynch me. Itís my birthday. :-*

Daniel
MEDS: REYATAZ & KIVEXA (SINCE AUG 2008)

MAY 2000 LAB RESULTS: CD4 678
VL STILL UNDETECTABLE

DIAGNOSED IN 1988

Offline Eldon

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Re: drinking alcohol with meds
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2006, 05:36:00 AM »
Yes, I AM Supporting You!

Hey Koi1...

It is your decision and you may want to consider the quantity consumed that is involved. Also, you will want to check and see if there are any warning labels on your meds.

I have not experienced drinking on meds. My Doctor advised me that I shouldn't.


Don't You Dare Give Up, Don't You Dare Give In...Because It Is ALL Within YOU to WIN!

Offline koi1

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Re: drinking alcohol with meds
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2006, 08:15:18 PM »
Go figure, to each his own.
Anyway with such dismal liver function numbers I got today, drinking is the last thing I will do.


rob
« Last Edit: December 26, 2006, 11:56:43 PM by koi1 »
diagnosed on 11/20/06 viral load 23,000  cd4 97    8%
01/04/07 six weeks after diagnosis vl 53,000 cd4 cd4 70    6%
Began sustiva truvada 01/04/07
newest labs  drawn on 01/15/07  vl 1,100    cd4 119    7%
Drawn 02/10/07
cd4=160 viral load= 131 percentage= 8%
New labs 3/10/07 (two months on sustiva truvada
cd4 count 292  percentage 14 viral load undetectable

Offline Eldon

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Re: drinking alcohol with meds
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2006, 03:45:28 AM »
Yes, I AM Supporting You!

Hey Robert...

With your numbers for your liver that you got today, it does sound like it may be a good idea.  There are other ways you can adjust to this change as well.


Thanks for chiming in and sharing with the group.

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Offline poet

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Re: drinking alcohol with meds
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2006, 08:53:35 AM »
Rob, I have posted before that I use what my liver feels like as my guide.  It doesn't feel happy when I drink, so I don't try to make it unhappy.  I never worried that a drink or two was going to affect my hiv levels or the actions of hiv meds.  Sort of like the smoker who hacks after a puff?  When your body seems to be telling you something, you try to hear what it is saying.  Best, Win
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Offline Nico

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Re: drinking alcohol with meds
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2006, 09:14:24 PM »
Rob,
Your liver function numbers tell the truth -well almost.  Yes, I still have a drink, but I pay attention to my body and how I feel (thanks Poet).  Beside my liver function numbers, I always read my meds warnings.  In the end, I always ask my doc it is OK to have a drink after each lab review visit.  Guess what...for me red wine on occasion due to my triglycerides is OK, but no other hard drinks or beer.  Not due to my liver, but the affect of the meds on my blood.  So just listen to you doc and ask many of questions.

Cheers.
Roger
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Offline Eldon

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Re: drinking alcohol with meds
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2006, 03:37:06 AM »
Yes, I AM Supporting You!


Hey Robert...

Poet and Nico are correct on this one. Your body will tell you when to backoff so that it can do its own thing to maintain you. From my very own experience, this is true. Your liver is a filter and you may want to do what you can in order to keep it working at its optimal level.

Take care of YOU!
 

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BECAUSE It IS ALL Within YOU to WIN!!!

Offline koi1

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Re: drinking alcohol with meds
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2006, 09:38:04 AM »
Yes, my liver might be telling me some "truth", ,but we don't know what it is. My liver function was in the normal range until I went into the hospital with a bactrim allergy. The only thing is that it has gotten worse since getting out of the hospital, and I have not been drinking for nearly six weeks.
diagnosed on 11/20/06 viral load 23,000  cd4 97    8%
01/04/07 six weeks after diagnosis vl 53,000 cd4 cd4 70    6%
Began sustiva truvada 01/04/07
newest labs  drawn on 01/15/07  vl 1,100    cd4 119    7%
Drawn 02/10/07
cd4=160 viral load= 131 percentage= 8%
New labs 3/10/07 (two months on sustiva truvada
cd4 count 292  percentage 14 viral load undetectable

Offline pozguy75

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Re: drinking alcohol with meds
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2006, 02:57:43 PM »
I will tell you this...if I have more than a couple of drinks, my stomach feels like I have been punched in the gut...it just hurts...so, no more than maybe one or two at the very most. That's just me...but I don't like the way it feels...
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Offline Christine

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Re: drinking alcohol with meds
« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2007, 10:00:21 AM »
I was ill in 2001, and my liver and kidneys were not working well during that month in the hospital. After that event, the Doctor said no alcohol...so no drinking for me. Plus some of my meds say no alcohol.

Ask your doctor about it. He/she will be able to tell you what the risks (if any) are based on your health and medications.

Christine
Poz since '93. Currently on Procrit, Azithromax, Pentamidine, Valcyte, Levothyroxine, Zoloft, Epzicom, Prezista, Viread, Norvir, and GS-9137 study drug. As needed: Trazodone, Atavan, Diflucan, Zofran, Hydrocodone, Octreotide

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Re: drinking alcohol with meds
« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2007, 10:54:47 AM »
I refer you to my Signature line......


Just dont OVER do it and that slide will be at 80 years old instead of 60 years old!
LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming--WOW! WHAT A
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