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Author Topic: Is it to late to start treatment with a cd4 count below 50??  (Read 917 times)

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Offline Laurahope

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Is it to late to start treatment with a cd4 count below 50??
« on: February 16, 2015, 04:40:12 PM »
Hello to all:

I'm New in this whole situation, my husband just got diagnosed and he is just going to start treatment but his cd4 count was found Below 50. I've been readig a lot and some times It's scary and somtimes it calming the Information I get. 

I want to know if there are options under this circumstances.  He's not been sick at all, he had a dermic infection wich was the way to found out he was hiv possitive. But he hagan'y been diagnosed with any other sickness.  I feel scared because I think with this Cd4 count is to late.

As I said we are New in this and don't know to much about treatmets and so many things. 

Hope you van help me Sharing some Information

Lau
« Last Edit: February 16, 2015, 04:46:21 PM by Laurahope »

Offline leatherman

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Re: Is it to late to start treatment with a cd4 count below 50??
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2015, 05:16:59 PM »
lawds, no! Tons of people have had cd4s in the single digits, gotten on meds, and lived good long lives.  And a lot of those people have been quite sick or even so ill they were hospitalized!

Sorry to hear that your husband is infected but since he's not sick now and is about to go onto meds, he should be ok. just get him on meds soon!
leatherman (aka mIkIE)


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Offline mecch

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Re: Is it to late to start treatment with a cd4 count below 50??
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2015, 05:22:15 PM »
Hello welcome to the forum.
I hope your husband joins us.

(If you are not HIV+ you should post in the "Someone I Know" section.)

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Offline Tonny2

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Re: Is it to late to start treatment with a cd4 count below 50??
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2015, 05:50:32 PM »
Hello to all:

I'm New in this whole situation, my husband just got diagnosed and he is just going to start treatment but his cd4 count was found Below 50. I've been readig a lot and some times It's scary and somtimes it calming the Information I get. 

I want to know if there are options under this circumstances.  He's not been sick at all, he had a dermic infection wich was the way to found out he was hiv possitive. But he hagan'y been diagnosed with any other sickness.  I feel scared because I think with this Cd4 count is to late.

As I said we are New in this and don't know to much about treatmets and so many things. 

Hope you van help me Sharing some Information

Lau

      ojo     Hi Laurahope...my case, cd4 20 when dx, I was too sick when diagnosed, now my cd4 is 498, so Laura hope, do not lose hope, as long as he takes his meds (hiv) and I supposed he got some antibiotics to prevent oportunistic infections, you two, are going to be fine, ok?...just tell him to wash his hands before eatting, because of his low cd4, it seems simple, but it helps a lot to avoid any more bugs in his body...wishing you the best, can you tell us, what treatment is he on?....hugs          ojo

Offline Laurahope

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Re: Is it to late to start treatment with a cd4 count below 50??
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2015, 06:12:17 PM »
Thanks to all for replying so fast!!  :)

Sorry for posting in the wrong forum I will learn all about how to post and where in the next months.. We've been together for Many years and I stil don't understand how I'm not infected since it looks he was infected before we got together.

Tonny2 and leatherman thanks again.. Is nice to hear something possitive.

He'll start his treament this week and as Soon as I know something about the meds I'll share

Lau

Offline J.R.E.

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Re: Is it to late to start treatment with a cd4 count below 50??
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2015, 06:13:00 PM »
Hi Laura,..

There are many of us here, that have started treatment with CD 4 counts lower that 50.

I started treatment, in October of 2003, with a CD 4 count of 16.  This was also 18 years after I had become infected with HIV. It certainly wasn't a smart thing to do,( waiting as long as I did) but I am still around.

The main thing now, Is getting your husband all the required tests done and getting him started on treatment as soon as possible.

Once the CD 4 count drops below 200, your husband is open, for a variety of opportunistic infections.

http://www.aidsmeds.com/articles/OIs_4898.shtml

Please be sure to read the lessons, provided here on the site, and if your husband has any questions to ask, I recommend he reads these lessons as well.

http://www.aidsmeds.com/articles/Introduction_4702.shtml



With less than 50  tcell count, he needs to be on Antibiotics, until his t cell counts go above 200 and are maintained.  This is Important !!


Ray
Current Meds ; Viramune, Epzicom, 40mg of simvastatin, 25 mg of Hydrochlorothiazide.
Metoprolol tartrate 25mg



http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=40802.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=45159.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39722.msg495621;topicseen#msg495621

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=46806.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39414.msg491701#msg491701


Diagnosed positive in 1985,.. In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started on  HAART on October 24th, 2003.

 As of 12/10/14,  t-cells are at 350,  Previous 8/25/14--- 402/ Viral load remains <40

 Current % is at 13% / Previous 8/25/14 11%

  
 63 years young.

Offline leatherman

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Re: Is it to late to start treatment with a cd4 count below 50??
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2015, 06:57:26 PM »
...I stil don't understand how I'm not infected since it looks he was infected before we got together.
...
...as Soon as I know something about the meds I'll share
sometimes that is just how it happens. Similar in the way that people don't get pregnant every time they have sex, a single sex act doesn't guarantee the transmission of HIV either. Neither do three, four, five or six. 8) Of course, the more times, the more the odds get less in your favor and mathematically you run outta luck. :(

and speaking of however many times you're going to have sex ;) , as to the future, to protect yourself now that you know about this issue with your husband and yourself (I'm guessing you have gotten tested too, and that it's HIV neg, right?), you need to know a couple things going forward:

1) condoms! they stop a lot of stuff besides HIV, so that's a plus.  :o
2) get your partner on meds and help him stay on them. After he's been "Undetectable" for a few years, his risk of sexually transmitting HIV could very well be almost 0%.  ;D
3) PrEP- pre-exposure medication. There's this hiv drug that hiv-negative people can take that has been shown to reduce the risk of HIV infection by approx. 74%. w00T!
leatherman (aka mIkIE)


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Offline zach

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Re: Is it to late to start treatment with a cd4 count below 50??
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2015, 08:56:11 PM »
raises hand  ;D single digits here, 8, never too late as long as we're breathin, and i ain't dyin

options? sure, which med to choose, he'll get a resistance profile, and he and the doctor will discuss the possibilities.

kinda busy though, gotta go. important stuff JR and leather just ran by you, read it again. start exploring the lessons on this site. don't go nuts overloading your mind about this shit.

things are gonna be ok, it's a tough fight.... put your strong face on
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Offline libvet

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Re: Is it to late to start treatment with a cd4 count below 50??
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2015, 12:58:28 PM »
I'll chime in with another "Not too late".  Started out with 22 CD4 in 1999.   Still here in 2015 after starting meds.  It might be a slow climb to "decent" numbers, but definitely not too late.

Good luck and best wishes.

Offline leatherman

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Re: Is it to late to start treatment with a cd4 count below 50??
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2015, 01:05:55 PM »
i was down to 5 tcells and now it's 23 yrs later when I've got a steady count between 300-320 and couldn't feel better.
leatherman (aka mIkIE)


chart from 1992-2013; updated 2/09/13  Reyataz/Norvir/Truvada

Offline 2tcells

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Re: Is it to late to start treatment with a cd4 count below 50??
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2015, 10:10:03 PM »
I started with cd4 of 2 that was 19 months ago I was so sick for months lost half my weight and in the hospital. after I started meds I got better could eat again and now my cd4 is 156 and havnt had more than a normal cold since
7-4-13 diagnosed cd4- 2      vl-220,600
8-3-13                     cd4- 4      vl- 448
9-3-13                     cd4- 40    vl- ud
11-3-13                   cd4- 54    vl-ud
1-9-14                     cd4- 62    vl- 43
4-3-14                     cd4- 110  vl-ud yay!
8-5-14                     cd4- 95    vl-ud boo
9-23-14                   cd4- 97    vl-ud
1-22-15                   cd4- 156  vl-ud

Offline Laurahope

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Re: Is it to late to start treatment with a cd4 count below 50??
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2015, 11:46:27 PM »
Hello to all:

I just don't have words to describe how encouraging has been reading all your experiencies.  Thanks for share that with me. I show them to my husband and we got sheer up.

We went to the doctor today and he was also possitive about the situation and was a able to explain a lot of doubts we had, she even talked about options for a baby (we have no children yet).  They will give some meds to guarantee I keep HIV neg.

We will have another appoinment next week and he will begin his treatment with  psychologic and nutrionist support.  Hope to have the name of the meds to share that with you.  He has good health and now we are very careful about cleanness and other people flues an things like that.  He never got his appetite gone so he still eats well but now more healthy foods.

Feb-15: CD4 = 47 ---- looking forward for this number to go up as in your experiencies.

Thanks again!!

Lau

Offline Almost2late

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Re: Is it to late to start treatment with a cd4 count below 50??
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2015, 12:02:18 AM »
Hi Laura,

Sorry to hear bout your husband but I'm sure he'll be fine once on the Hiv meds.. I was at 13 a year ago and now at 185 so believe all those who posted here, your husband will bounce back as many have done here.. Best of luck to you both.
"Every man has his own destiny: the only imperative is to follow it, to accept it, no matter where it leads him." - Henry Miller

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Re: Is it to late to start treatment with a cd4 count below 50??
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2015, 05:38:45 PM »
Hi Laura, I can just confirm what everyone else here has told you. I was diagnosed in December 2012 with a CD4 count of 10. Met with my doctor today and my count is now at 600 (which made me all teary-eyed out of happiness)!

Offline Rachael_1

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Re: Is it to late to start treatment with a cd4 count below 50??
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2015, 11:57:09 AM »
My Husband was diagnosed in September, got his CD4 count in December and started meds straight away (HIV meds + antibiotic). His CD4 at the beginning of December (2014) was 48, his viral count 300.000.
He was possibly infected 4 years ago (2012) in a previous relationship .
One month later his CD4 was 289, his viral load is down to 600. We will know more in March.
It will increase!!!! Big hugs!

Offline drewm

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Re: Is it to late to start treatment with a cd4 count below 50??
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2015, 01:54:40 PM »
I started with a CD4 count of 8.  ;)
Diagnosed in  May of 2010 with teh AIDS.

PCP Pneumonia . CD4 8 . VL 500,000

TRIUMEQ - VALTREX -  FLUOXETINE - FENOFIBRATE - PRAVASTATIN - CIALIS


Numbers consistent since 12/2010 - VL has remained undetectable and CD4 is anywhere from 275-325

Offline Laurahope

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Re: Is it to late to start treatment with a cd4 count below 50??
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2015, 09:29:24 PM »
Hello again

Thanks again for your comments

My husband and I have been the last two weeks in doctors and all of them have been really optimistic about the situation, the same all of you have told me.

My only concern now is about the meds he is receiving.  We are at a third world country and sometimes we think meds here are not the best ones

Here they are, what they gave him.  They are without brand names:

Emtricitabina 200 mg
Tenofovir disoproxil Fumarato 300 mg
Fluconaxol 200 mg
Trimetropim 160mg
Sulfametoxazol - F /800mg

Does any one know about them?

Lau

 

Offline zach

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Re: Is it to late to start treatment with a cd4 count below 50??
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2015, 10:12:28 PM »
Here they are, what they gave him.  They are without brand names:

Emtricitabina 200 mg
Tenofovir disoproxil Fumarato 300 mg
Fluconaxol 200 mg
Trimetropim 160mg
Sulfametoxazol - F /800mg

Does any one know about them?

Lau

first two are the components of truvada

last three are antibiotic/antifungal to treat and prevent candida and pneumonia

those are fine meds, i've been on all of them, nothing third world (underdeveloped nation for the pc types) about them at all
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Offline Laurahope

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Re: Is it to late to start treatment with a cd4 count below 50??
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2015, 11:46:07 AM »
Thanks Zach!!

I forgot to mention Nevirapina 200mg


Offline zach

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Re: Is it to late to start treatment with a cd4 count below 50??
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2015, 01:09:42 PM »
yeah, we would call that viramune

neviapina=viramune is an NNRTI

tenofovir disoproxil fumarato=viread is an NRTI

emtricitabina=emtriva is also an NRTI

viread and emtriva are also offered as a combined fixed dose, in a single pill under the name Truvada... don't know if y'all have access to that where you're at, something to think about though maybe (not advising it, just putting the knowledge out there)



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