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Offline DENNISTHEMENACE

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IS IT POSSIBLE
« on: December 22, 2006, 11:36:42 PM »
i recently had an encounter with an older women i have never had sex  with a woman until this encounter and i am a little freaked out on how i came about to meet this person.i met her on craigslist under"casual encounters"we had protected sex but i have never put on a condom before, i believe i did it right ,i mean it doesnt take a rocket scientist but im still worried on if i used it correctly because it kept sliding around.and after i took it off my penis didnt feel dry, but it was a spermicide condom.i guess im just really  concerned on the chances of getting a std like hiv from this encounter she also gave me oral unprotected.i feel guily and ashamed..please help

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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2006, 12:31:52 AM »
Yes, I AM Supporting You

Hey Dennisthemenace...

There is no need to have these feelings of guilt inside of you. If you wore the condom properly and it did not break nor slip off, then you had protected sex as there should be no real concern with this.



Enjoy your Holiday Season and Thank you for sharing.

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Re: IS IT POSSIBLE
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2006, 01:51:54 AM »
thanks for your reply

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« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2006, 01:57:10 AM »
Yes, I AM Supporting You

Hey Dennisthemenace...

You are welcome.



Enjoy your Holiday Season and Thank you for sharing.

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« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2006, 07:13:11 AM »
Dennis,

Condoms, when used correctly and consistently, have been proven to prevent hiv infection. Have a read through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use them with confidence.

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL STIs together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with a sexually transmitted infection. Sex with a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever. 

While you do not need to test over this specific incident, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms and avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple.

Ann
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Offline DENNISTHEMENACE

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« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2006, 12:47:29 PM »
yea,thank you ann your advice is much appreciated,i really think the internet is a scary place to look for answers i find so many diffrent opinions i dont know if there fact are not,why do they say condoms are not always affective,i heard that there 80% safe is this true

Offline DENNISTHEMENACE

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Re: IS IT POSSIBLE
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2006, 12:49:11 PM »
i cant find your signature line about condoms,where should i look

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Re: IS IT POSSIBLE
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2006, 12:50:40 PM »
How about right at the bottom of her post to you.

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« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2006, 12:51:36 PM »
The part that says "CONDOM INFO"
AIDS isn't for sissies.

Offline DENNISTHEMENACE

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« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2006, 12:56:19 PM »
oh ok im not slow i promise

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« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2006, 01:01:05 PM »
But he didn't say he wasn't a blonde. ;)

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« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2006, 02:55:12 PM »
Dennis,

The people who post things like that about condoms on the internet usually have an agenda. They don't want you to have sexual relations outside a traditional, heterosexual marriage and they'll tell you anything to stop you having a sex life. These are people who believe the discredited Abstinence Only program of sex-(non)education is the way to stop the spread of hiv. We won't force-feed you religious dogma here, we will only give you scientific facts.

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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2006, 03:02:53 PM »
Ann!you are an awesome lady,you are a true healer even over the internet,and i really admire what you do for people,as i have read through the forumns,i believe i have a phobia with this matter because i am being overwhelmed with anxiety and fear and i think its really irrational,can you refer me someone to talk to out here for no charge ,im a student, in salt lake city,ut.  thank you for your voice of reason

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« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2006, 03:09:02 PM »
Dennis,

If you are a university student, there is probably a counselor available on campus. Check your student directory or university website.

Ann
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline DENNISTHEMENACE

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Re: IS IT POSSIBLE
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2006, 12:11:27 AM »
do condoms protect against vaginal secretion or just the virus,im wondering why my penis wasent dry after i took off the condom.just wondering im new at all this stuff

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« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2006, 08:07:26 AM »
Dennis,

That is completely normal. I don't think I've ever seen a penis emerge from a condom, after the act, dry. It's either lube from the condom itself or your own cum or pre-cum. It certainly is NOT vaginal fluid, not on the inside. Make sure you read through those condom and lube links in my signature line. I hope you've found them now?

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline DENNISTHEMENACE

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« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2006, 01:34:44 PM »
yea i found them,thanks alot for your help,

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« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2006, 02:50:42 PM »
Dennis, you should also be aware that along with excitement and fun, becoming sexually active can stir up a lot of anxiety for a variety of reasons. So go at the pace you are comfortable with as far as what you do and whom you do it with.

You certainly weren't at risk for HIV during this recent incident. Always use a latex condom for intercourse and you'll be ok as far as HIV is concerned.

Cheers,
Andy Velez

Offline DENNISTHEMENACE

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« Reply #18 on: December 25, 2006, 08:23:48 PM »
yea it does,you are very right,i was wondering if a condom breaks do you know it has,can you feel it,or hear it.

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« Reply #19 on: December 25, 2006, 09:12:48 PM »
Dennis,

When a condom breaks, it is a very noticeable event. You will often hear it described as looking like your penis is suddenly wearing a hula skirt. You will also feel the difference between skin on latex and skin on skin.

Have you read through the condom link yet? A correctly used condom rarely breaks. My partner and I have never, ever had one break.

Ann
 
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline DENNISTHEMENACE

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« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2006, 02:03:36 AM »
oh yea ive read through it.i guess since it was my first time using one,i meen i have put one on before but never had used one, so i dont have anything to reassure me that condoms do the job,but your info has taught me alot,...merry christmas!!

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« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2006, 08:08:47 AM »
Dennis,

You might want to buy yourself a few condoms and experiment with them on your own. This way, you'll be more comfortable and familiar with them when you need them for real. You know what they say; practice makes perfect! ;)

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline DENNISTHEMENACE

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« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2007, 03:39:08 PM »
im sorry but i cant seem to shake this worry, it comes and goes its like i have no control over it.What really helps me is reading articles on seroconverent couples,having protected sex and unprotected sex which i believe i have found 1 do you know of any others i can find over the web.it has been 2 weeks and a day since possible exposure using a condom,i hear that 22 days is the average time do health care officials tell you 3-6 months to be safe,i dont know im crazy

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« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2007, 03:46:22 PM »
I'm sure if you went to a clinic and told them what you have told us, they would refuse to test you. Giving you the reason that you had protected sex.

Offline DENNISTHEMENACE

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« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2007, 04:04:44 PM »
im sorry but i have been a worry wart for a while,im thinking about starting a school for it,j/k.and health care officials always stay on the safe side and never refuse to give you a test.they seem too safe sometimes,to prevent prevention.they scare people instead of telling the truth its hard to find real honest answers out there,thats why i love this forum so much,but i appreciate your help,and the ease you give to many worry warts like myself

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« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2007, 06:03:55 PM »
i was also wondering to condoms protect against other stds

Offline RapidRod

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« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2007, 07:25:16 PM »
Most not all. Read the condom link at the bottom of any of Ann's Posts.

Offline DENNISTHEMENACE

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« Reply #27 on: January 03, 2007, 02:25:35 PM »
ok i guess ive worn out my welcome here,no one will answer my question :(

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« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2007, 08:24:33 PM »
Hey DennisTheMenace:

I have replied to your private message. Check it out. I can identify with you in so many ways...

;-)

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« Reply #29 on: January 03, 2007, 08:39:38 PM »
Adonis,

How many warnings do you need? I'm putting you on "read only" status until further notice.

Ann
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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline DENNISTHEMENACE

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« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2007, 09:46:55 PM »
i met serodiscordant

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« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2007, 09:53:46 PM »
also why do i always seem to find articles like this everywhere

One of the most frequently asked questions is: What is the effectiveness of condoms in preventing HIV transmission? The simple answer is that they are somewhat effective. Studies show that the probability of HIV transmission when the infected partner's viral load is above 1,500 is between 11 and 20 percent during any twelve-month period, even with the use of a condom. Total compliance to a working HAART program that keeps viral load to undetectable levels would decrease the risk according to the Ugandan study

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Studies show that the probability of HIV transmission when the infected partner's viral load is above 1,500 is between 11 and 20 percent during any twelve-month period, even with the use of a condom.

Those numbers would be more consistent for unprotected insertive vaginal intercourse, not protected as suggested.

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Total compliance to a working HAART program that keeps viral load to undetectable levels would decrease the risk according to the Ugandan study
One study remarked that unprotected insertive vaginal intercourse when viral load was consistently below approximately 2,000 resulted in no new infections over a 12 month period.

There are a few points to be made here. People are subject to error, they say they use condoms consistently but may not or they may not use them properly. Researchers manipulate and exclude data to support their own agenda which is often mired in funding issues. Even the best controlled clinical research projects are subject to error or faulty structure.

I tend to support hard evidence and it is indisputable that HIV cannot pass through a latex condom when it is used properly for intercourse. Problem is that many people do not know how to use a condom in it's prescribed manner. If you've read Ann's links and can identify with the contents then you have nothing to worry about except this self inflicted torment.

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also why do i always seem to find articles like this everywhere
Why are you reading everywhere or more specifically why drag in "stuff" that you don't know who wrote for what purpose. In this forum you have the opportunity to discuss and learn, in as close to real time as imaginable, from knowledgeable people with a wealth of knowledge, bringing this "stuff" here is your own admission of this as a fact. You're in a search pattern, unconsciously trying to find information that will support your fears and at the same time discounting any information to the contrary.

You will never rationalize these feelings but you can learn to accept the advice you've received which usually tends to become easier if you distance yourself from your constant web surfing. Try giving yourself some personal time instead of consuming all your waking hours visiting this site or that site.
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« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2007, 07:14:09 AM »
Dennis,

The clue to what is going on with you is in your first post:

i have never had sex  with a woman until this encounter and i am a little freaked out on how i came about to meet this person...

//snip//

i feel guily and ashamed..please help

In a nutshell, you are new to having sexual intercourse and you're beating yourself up because your first time was with someone you met over the internet.

Stop it. Just because you're not happy with how your first time came about doesn't change the fact that condoms have been proven to prevent hiv infection. I'm not speaking from reading a study that was conducted by strangers in a far away land, I'm talking from personal experience and the experience of my positive friends and acquaintances, PLUS three very large studies of serodiscordant couples.

If you cannot stop obsessing over this incident, please talk to a qualified mental health care professional about it. Sex is normal and natural, not something to freak out about. (regardless of what religious fundamentalists may tell you)

Keep using those condoms for intercourse and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple.

Ann
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #34 on: January 04, 2007, 08:28:59 PM »
thank you for your reply,I guess i have always been afraid of death.Ive always thought about what if the world ends,what if this lump on my ass is a tumor,when its a zit,its all around us everytime someone dies or gets sick we know about it its shared and the feeling is heart breaking.Im a very spirtual person but the fear of dying takes over me sometimes for a given period of time ,it comes and and goes.If you dont believe in religous fundamentalism what do you beleive in

I hope asking you this question doesnt offend you ,because i meen it only in the best intentions,how do you deal with hiv emotionally and spirtually,how do you feel about death and what happens after we die.

I hope these questions are ok,thank you for letting me vent my problem,your courage is an insperation to me  :D

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« Reply #35 on: January 04, 2007, 08:50:07 PM »
I've got every day happenings to worry about. I don't worry about death, I don't worry about HIV/AIDS. This is just a disease that lives with me. I don't let HIV run me. I run it. I'm not a religious person. I do believe in God and that's about it.

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« Reply #36 on: January 04, 2007, 08:55:16 PM »
hey 411 i just read your reply ,thank you .Your right,but i would say its more of a consience thing im aware that i shouldnt be consuming my time with searching websites and  reading the same thing over and over again on this forum, for some feeling of relief, this anxiety and fear is brutal.I do beleive in this forum and everything you guys have told me,thats why i know i need to talk to someone but its hard to get people to care with out showing them the money.Thank you for your concern and guidance

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« Reply #37 on: January 04, 2007, 08:58:34 PM »
 hey rapid rodWhat about seing the countless people suffering and dying from this Virus this doesnt scare you,

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« Reply #38 on: January 04, 2007, 09:19:57 PM »
I'm sorry to see them die, but it doesn't scare me. I'm just not afraid to dieing.

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« Reply #39 on: January 09, 2007, 12:53:53 PM »
it has been 23 days since my last encounter,should i get a test and how relaible would it be in this window period

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« Reply #40 on: January 09, 2007, 03:09:09 PM »
It's not reliable at all, at 23 days.

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« Reply #41 on: January 09, 2007, 03:14:56 PM »
but didnt andy say 22 days is the average time to seroconvert

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« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2007, 03:19:27 PM »
Average time to seroconvert 22 is average. That is not saying that you will have produced enough antibodies for testing to pick up. CDC states 3 months or apx. 90 days.

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« Reply #43 on: January 09, 2007, 03:21:29 PM »
rod

is there a test  i can take that will give me results faster than 3 months

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« Reply #44 on: January 09, 2007, 03:29:56 PM »
Yes they are some test you can take but they will not be conclusive. As in your case, it's just a waste of money. I can tell you you're negative but you will have to retest at the 3 month mark. Is that what you want to hear? Because that is what any testing facility is going to tell you. You did not have a risk to begin with and I have no understanding as to why you persist in this notion.

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« Reply #45 on: January 09, 2007, 04:40:36 PM »
Dennis,

Let's not forget you didn't have a risk to begin with. Condoms have been proven to prevent hiv infection.

When a person actually has had a risk, a negative at 23 days would be encouraging, but by no means conclusive.

In your NO risk case, you can take your results to mean you are hiv negative.

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« Reply #46 on: January 09, 2007, 05:09:25 PM »
ok ann thanks,its just i hear everywhere from specialist,docters,nurses that condoms arent 100% effective thats why i get nervous because all of the hype   thanks ann

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« Reply #47 on: January 09, 2007, 05:27:41 PM »
Why aren't they 100% listed as being effective? People don't use them consistently, people don't use the proper lube. People don't put them on correctly, that is the reason they don't say 100%. If you, use the condom consistently, use the correct lube and have applied the condom on correctly, then you have a 100% protection for HIV.

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« Reply #48 on: January 09, 2007, 05:30:28 PM »
thanks rod,what if i didnt use lube,would that still be ok,...im freaking out,and i dont know why i cant stop thinking about it

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« Reply #49 on: January 09, 2007, 05:33:14 PM »
Did the condom fail? Did it look like a hula dress when you took it off? If it didn't it, it didn't fail.

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« Reply #50 on: January 09, 2007, 06:18:43 PM »
i guess not,there wouldnt be a small hole that i coulnt see right,i didnt really examine it but i know it wasent broken

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« Reply #51 on: January 09, 2007, 06:22:42 PM »
Then, it was a no risk.

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Why aren't they 100% listed as being effective? People don't use them consistently, people don't use the proper lube. People don't put them on correctly, that is the reason they don't say 100%. If you, use the condom consistently, use the correct lube and have applied the condom on correctly, then you have a 100% protection for HIV.

Exactly what Rod said and you don't need to test but if you choose to do so wait 13 weeks and get one conclusive test. Anything else and you will question the negative result and be back here nagging on everyones nerves about the reliability of an XX week test.

You've really let everything you've read offsite cloud your objectiveness given this is without doubt a non risk situation.

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« Reply #53 on: January 14, 2007, 02:20:08 PM »
ok,i recently just met a really cool girl,weve been going out for about a 3 weeks and shes been wanting to have sex but i keep denying it,if i wore condoms i would be completly safe right,i know condoms are very durable i tried breaking one to see how much pressure it would take to break,it was suprisingly not that easy,but my question is  it possible for the condom to slip all the way off and back on while having intercource without touching it,thank you everyone you have helped me tremendously im not worrying about it nearly as much as i was thanks to..... ann,rod,411,andy....sorry for these silly questions  but it helps me

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« Reply #54 on: January 14, 2007, 04:14:40 PM »
The only way a condom could slip completely off and you some how got the condom back on would be if you were sanction in Ripley's Believe It or Not of having the smallest penis in the world.

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« Reply #55 on: January 14, 2007, 06:43:38 PM »
LOL!Thanks rod ,but i actually am in the guiness book for that,...now i have to go give my penis a pep talk..j/k..lol.thanks for eveything,im not scared anymore,thanks to you guys,for some reason my fear just went away

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« Reply #56 on: January 16, 2007, 11:23:29 PM »
hey rod,i really want to get a test taken just to ease my mind a bit,i know 3 months is the conclusive time but it has been 31 days,how acurate is it at this time,what percentage?

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« Reply #57 on: January 16, 2007, 11:40:19 PM »
Don't think about it, it's to early to test. You should test if need be at six weeks and again at 13 weeks to be conclusive.

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« Reply #58 on: January 16, 2007, 11:56:54 PM »
is 6 weeks accurate how much can i trust those results to get me through this obsession,does it all depend on age race,gender,what is it that makes you guys say six weeks is 13 weeks is conclusive

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« Reply #59 on: January 17, 2007, 05:10:09 AM »
Most people develop antibodies by six weeks. It is necessary for you to test at 13 week to obtain your conclusive result.

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« Reply #60 on: January 19, 2007, 09:09:56 PM »
hey.i have a rash on my love handles(upper hip)on both sides and its making me freak out,i cant go on living this way,why cant i get over thinking about this,i think im gonna go get a test tommarow,at five weeks i need something ,im really worried

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« Reply #61 on: January 20, 2007, 03:13:25 AM »
Geesh, are you coming here to just make pointless posts. Did you read the information that you have received? You don't need a test, you were never at risk. If you want to spend your money do it wisely and seek the help of a mental health professional to see why you can't let this go.
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« Reply #62 on: January 20, 2007, 09:48:29 AM »
OK, Dennis. It's time to call a halt here. You've been repeatedly told you weren't at risk. You have all the basic information in the Transmission lesson on this site.

This is not an HIV situation.

For whatever reason you're indulging in thinking otherwise and expecting us to take that seriously.

As Rod suggested, if you won't let go of this concern, you need to speak to a mental health professional and discuss this.

We've done what we can do in relation to your concern. Just because your mind may continue to come up with thoughts that scare you about whatever bodily things you have doesn't change the fact that you weren't at risk for HIV. If you have symptoms that concern you that's something to discuss with a doctor. They aren't about HIV.

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« Reply #63 on: January 20, 2007, 11:27:12 AM »
ok....thanks andy,i am trying to find a mental health professional but its not easy considering my status,im sorry if im bugging you guys,im just all by myself in this town and have no one to talk to about this,no matter how many times im told it wasent a risk,my mind keeps pacing,ive had this expierence once before and my fear was completly disapated after i tested neg.i think its the only way of closure for this guilt or shame whatever this subconcience behavior is,can i go today and trust the results..once again thank you,all try to reframe from this forum

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« Reply #64 on: January 20, 2007, 11:29:26 AM »
and thank you rod for your support

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« Reply #65 on: January 20, 2007, 11:44:41 AM »
You didnt have a risk so go ahead and test.  Its going to be negative.
LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,
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« Reply #66 on: January 20, 2007, 10:59:15 PM »
i just talked to someone on a cdc hotline and they tell me condoms arent 100 effective even when used properly,see this is why so many people are worrying themselves to death,isnt the cdc supposed to provide scientific info,i just dont understand and maybe i cant get it through my head because i have been told for years that they arent 100 %,why do they tell me this,

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« Reply #67 on: January 21, 2007, 04:34:36 AM »
DENNISTHEMENACE, I'm sure you know the answer without us reexplaining it all over again. You do read other threads and it been answered hundreds of times. 

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« Reply #68 on: January 21, 2007, 10:07:58 AM »
well if the answer is that they have an agenda and there religious fundementalist,i just dont get it,arent they supposed to have reliable information i mean its the cdc,i have heard you guys quote them and give information founded by them all the time, if they are the center for disease control,will they tell you abstince is the safest way just so they can be one person shorter of controling the virus and other viruses for that matter

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« Reply #69 on: January 21, 2007, 10:10:00 AM »
Yes they will.  If you put so much value on the cdc then why do you keep coming here?  why not just listen to them and be done with it.
LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
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« Reply #70 on: January 21, 2007, 10:42:14 AM »
because im an over anxious ,scared little piece of shit thats why,im just tired of waiting i need closure

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« Reply #71 on: January 21, 2007, 02:12:10 PM »
Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

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« Reply #72 on: January 21, 2007, 09:29:17 PM »
please dont suspend me ,i have no one to talk to,im feeling suicidal..everything is getting worse since in got these rashes..

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« Reply #73 on: January 21, 2007, 09:31:04 PM »
If you are truly feeling suicidal I encourage you to call a suicide prevention line ASAP.  We cannot offer you the type of help you need over the internet. 
LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
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« Reply #74 on: January 22, 2007, 02:39:27 PM »
hey everyone,im going in today for a test,wish me luck,and i just wanted to say im sorry ive been a nuisance around here but you guys have helped me more than youll know,and i do believe all of your words deep down in my heart,i guess this will be closure for me.If i am positive i guess youll be hearing alot more from me,this expierence has taught me alot and it has given me a new found respect for the diease and makes me want to do something about it,thank you all,much love

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« Reply #75 on: March 14, 2007, 12:01:37 PM »
hey everyone,i just want to say how much i appreciate all of your words ,i took my test yesterday at 3 months and it was,like all of you said,negaitive. since then i have been trying to voulnteer with a local clinic, :).i have a quick question how lond does hiv stAY ALIVE OUTSIDE OF THE BODY in any of the transmitable fluids ,but mostly blood,TTYL

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« Reply #76 on: March 14, 2007, 12:08:06 PM »
It begins to degrade in seconds.
LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming--WOW! WHAT A
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« Reply #77 on: March 14, 2007, 01:14:49 PM »
so direct contact is what transmittes hiv and any exposure to oxygen makes the virus inactive

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« Reply #78 on: March 14, 2007, 03:12:54 PM »
Read the lessons on transmission.  THAT is how HIV is transmitted.  INSIDE the body and ONLY inside the body.  Not through any type of environmental surface that is OUTSIDE the body.

You should know this by now.
LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,
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RIDE!!!

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« Reply #79 on: May 02, 2007, 01:25:50 PM »
if two people have deep cuts on there lips and gums and one is hiv positive is it possible to get hiv,and another question i had was this. I have heard that certain people cant get infected with the virus known as hiv because the body is resistant to it,something to do with the t cells,has anybody heard anything about this

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« Reply #80 on: May 02, 2007, 01:47:47 PM »
read the lessons on transmission.  HIV transmission does NOT happen like this.

LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
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« Reply #81 on: May 02, 2007, 02:12:56 PM »
if two people have deep cuts on there lips and gums and one is hiv positive is it possible to get hiv,and another question i had was this. I have heard that certain people cant get infected with the virus known as hiv because the body is resistant to it,something to do with the t cells,has anybody heard anything about this


Were you watching Boston Legal last night or something?  I'll leave it to the more scientifically inclined to elaborate on the subject of some people being resistant to HIV infection.  It is enough to say that I sure wouldn't gamble my last dollar on that one if I was you.
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« Reply #82 on: May 02, 2007, 03:32:38 PM »
was that on csi last night,how funny,i didnt see it.I was told that by my patholgy teacer.

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« Reply #83 on: May 02, 2007, 03:39:37 PM »
No, it was Boston Legal...had someone who supposedly "fought off" HIV infection and returned to a negative status. I have not seen CSI.  Don't watch it.

I'd be interested in hearing more from anyone on here who does know more about these so-called "uninfectable" people.  If they are out there, they would be extremely rare.

And no, I personally don't think the kissing scenario you mentioned would be a transmission risk.
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hello,i have posted here before ...i will get right to the question...i recently was involved in a fight ...i hate fighting but it was self defense...anyways...i got a good shot in on the looney who attacked me and he started bleeding profusely..like i said im not a fighter,so i was pretty freaked out...he then began to chase me...he tackled me to the ground and his blood was getting everywhere on me...in my eyes and mouth..and also on my arms where i have many scrapes and cuts from skate boarding..some of the wounds being new..is there a risk in this incident,any replies would be great...thanks...derek

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« Reply #85 on: August 23, 2007, 11:04:21 AM »
Yes, we know you have posted here before. I've merged  your previous thread with your latest question. Please keep all of your entries in this same thread. Thanks for your cooperation with our rules.

Now, as to this most recent concern of yours. I've never known of a single case of transmission to occur in the manner you have described. And yes, I have noted all of the blood spilling you have mentioned around your bruises and various. HIV is a fragile virus and requires a very hospitable environment to be transmitted. That's why vaginal and anal intercourse are the essential concerns.

I don't see any cause to be worried about this incident nor any need for testing. I urge you not to get back on to the worry wagon you rode in so lengthily and unnecessarily before this. And that includes NOT surfing the net for misinformation to feed your fears.
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« Reply #86 on: August 23, 2007, 11:16:09 AM »
thanks andy it really means alot to me that you answered so quick...im trying not to jump on the worry wagon again andy but its something i need help with mentally like you guys  suggested ...but this worry i have it comes and goes ...it was a preety traumatic expierence though...so your saying even though his blood was smeared over my cuts there it is a no risk situation

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« Reply #87 on: August 23, 2007, 11:21:36 AM »
it was on my scrapes and cuts ...i wouldnt be worried about bruises ...you meant scrapes right

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« Reply #88 on: August 23, 2007, 11:23:21 AM »
Andy is telling you that you didn't have a risk.

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« Reply #89 on: August 23, 2007, 12:58:50 PM »
Dennis,

I'll chime in here too to tell you that you weren't at risk for hiv in this situation.

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